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thumper
07-22-2005, 04:29 PM
Be honest http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/hsugh.gif

Feenix566
07-22-2005, 05:27 PM
We already have muslims living right here in the US. Yet they haven't bombed any trains yet. Wanna venture a guess as to why? It's not because they can't. And it's not because of the Patriot Act...

John R. Sellers
07-22-2005, 05:53 PM
Be honest http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/hsugh.gif

Why not? Not all Muslims are misguided. Just one in particular.

There might be Muslims in these forums, and they have as much right to them as we do, and as such, I think this question would be highly offensive.

thumper
07-22-2005, 05:58 PM
Why not? Not all Muslims are misguided. Just one in particular.

There might be Muslims in these forums, and they have as much right to them as we do, and as such, I think this question would be highly offensive.The question is do you like them.

John R. Sellers
07-22-2005, 06:08 PM
The question is do you like them.

I don't personally know any.

thumper
07-22-2005, 06:08 PM
they smell

Mystlet
07-22-2005, 06:11 PM
I've known many muslims. I did not find them smelly at all. I've worked for them as well. The ones I have met jave been nice. Truthfully Thumper, I'd rather a family of muslims next door to me than someone as racist as you seem to be.

John R. Sellers
07-22-2005, 06:14 PM
they smell

PETINESS ALERT!

Misteria
07-22-2005, 06:17 PM
oh i reported him already :nice:

thumper
07-22-2005, 06:18 PM
I've known many muslims. I did not find them smelly at all. I've worked for them as well. The ones I have met jave been nice. Truthfully Thumper, I'd rather a family of muslims next door to me than someone as racist as you seem to be.Did you notice your property value begin to drop when this family moved in?

http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/kekekegay.gif

302Riz
07-22-2005, 06:23 PM
I have no problem with them as long as they arent fanatics hell bent on blowing everything in sight up.

Mystlet
07-22-2005, 06:25 PM
I have no problem with them as long as they arent fanatics hell bent on blowing everything in sight up.
Most are just people with families trying to make a life like anyone else. :)

fat mike
07-22-2005, 06:30 PM
In Texas anyone bringing any diversity is welcome to me.This mono or bi cultural thing we got here is disgusting.
I have some moslem friends.

Mystlet
07-22-2005, 06:34 PM
In Texas anyone bringing any diversity is welcome to me.This mono or bi cultural thing we got here is disgusting.
I have some moslem friends.
We have a lot to learn about ourselves from others. :)

302Riz
07-22-2005, 06:40 PM
Most are just people with families trying to make a life like anyone else. :)

Hey, they are cool. I have no problem with them. :)

fat mike
07-22-2005, 06:41 PM
We have a lot to learn about ourselves from others. :)

With someone from a reallydifferent culture some pretty uncomfortable questions arise.But it's a growth experience.
People respond when you give them slack.

oki
07-22-2005, 06:47 PM
they smell you smell.

Spazola
07-22-2005, 06:49 PM
Oh, yes.I want them to live as far away from me as possible. I hate those damned Muslims so much, I mean GOD, they share a different culture for me! If they aren't like me, they MUST be evil.
:rolleyes:

jojo
07-22-2005, 06:50 PM
I have no problem with them as long as they arent fanatics hell bent on blowing everything in sight up.

I prefer born again christian pyromaniacs. :|

thumper
07-22-2005, 06:51 PM
you smell.
http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/dancingwtc1.gif

take it back

fat mike
07-22-2005, 06:51 PM
Sometimes I smell.

oki
07-22-2005, 06:58 PM
http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/dancingwtc1.gif

take it backwhat is that, 'muslims smell' ? is that some kind of racist remark to arabs? is that supposed to show you have an arguement?

Spazola
07-22-2005, 06:59 PM
what is that, 'muslims smell' ? is that some kind of racist remark to arabs? is that supposed to show you have an arguement?

He dosen't have an argument. He hates for the sake of hating.

Monster
07-22-2005, 07:01 PM
Thumper, you're walking a fine line here. Racial insults are against the TOS (http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30483).

thumper
07-22-2005, 07:07 PM
Thumper, you're walking a fine line here. Racial insults are against the TOS (http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30483).Muslims aren't a race
:p

Spazola
07-22-2005, 07:09 PM
Muslims aren't a race
:p

Arguing with a mod....great idea :p


And I'm sure making a offensive comment about any race, culture, or individual is against TOS :nice:

thumper
07-22-2005, 07:22 PM
Arguing with a mod....great idea :p


And I'm sure making a offensive comment about any race, culture, or individual is against TOS :nice:you're 13

Spazola
07-22-2005, 07:24 PM
you're 13

Naw, really? I could have sworn that I'm 35! :rolleyes:


If you can't post an argument, don't post at all.

oki
07-22-2005, 07:37 PM
I thought "they smell" was an exellent arguement for not wanting muslim communities in europe... :rolleyes:

fat mike
07-22-2005, 08:00 PM
I thought "they smell" was an exellent arguement for not wanting muslim communities in europe... :rolleyes:

If that becomes a problem you'll have to stop cooking that curry,Oki!!!

oki
07-23-2005, 06:13 AM
maybe we can pass a law for better deodorant.

fat mike
07-23-2005, 07:03 AM
Home inspections monthly...

Silent man
07-23-2005, 08:29 AM
Be honest http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/hsugh.gifNot anymore I dont.

Kyrgyzstan
07-23-2005, 12:01 PM
Thumper, oki is right saying that you smell. May be you don't smell physically, but you emit stink of racism...
the real muslims never smell because they wash their body much more often than we, 5 times in a day before they pray. I know many of them and most of them are very kind.

BooRadley
07-23-2005, 12:20 PM
Is this guy serious or just playing with people?

Anyway, I've had two Muslim friends and they were decent, educated, family people who were principled, honest and reliable. None of them ever tried to bomb me, and they didn't smell.

Ponycar_302
07-23-2005, 12:40 PM
I know one Muslim Imam from Nigeria and he smells. Based on my personal experience Thumper is correct. However, their smell is not what concerns me and it is not the reason I voted no. Muslim communities will most likely demand that Islamic law be incorporated into American law. They're already doing so in Europe and will do so here. The rest of my reasoning would be deemed entirely racist by the others here so I won't even bother posting them. :)

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 01:31 PM
I know one Muslim Imam from Nigeria and he smells. Based on my personal experience Thumper is correct. However, their smell is not what concerns me and it is not the reason I voted no. Muslim communities will most likely demand that Islamic law be incorporated into American law. They're already doing so in Europe and will do so here. The rest of my reasoning would be deemed entirely racist by the others here so I won't even bother posting them. :)
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In defense of Admin.s, mods here, they are some of the most tolerent on the web .

But they have to stay fairly PC to survive I guess .

If you want to be races about any group, white anglo-saxons are fair game . Other-wise keep low profile .

oki
07-23-2005, 06:37 PM
I know one Muslim Imam from Nigeria and he smells. Based on my personal experience Thumper is correct. However, their smell is not what concerns me and it is not the reason I voted no. Muslim communities will most likely demand that Islamic law be incorporated into American law. They're already doing so in Europe and will do so here. The rest of my reasoning would be deemed entirely racist by the others here so I won't even bother posting them. :) I know a christian that smells. and a woman, and a disabled person.
and please do explane how muslims are incorporating islamic law in europe.

fat mike
07-23-2005, 06:40 PM
P&M if you think Wasps are not totally vicious about retaliating the least hint of anti white racism,you need to come to Texas-these cowboys can get mean and ugly,and the system's behind them here..

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 07:02 PM
P&M if you think Wasps are not totally vicious about retaliating the least hint of anti white racism,you need to come to Texas-these cowboys can get mean and ugly,and the system's behind them here..

Any real racism is wrong, but too many things are called racism now . You disagree with another culture or religian and your a racist .

fat mike
07-23-2005, 07:20 PM
Any real racism is wrong, but too many things are called racism now . You disagree with another culture or religian and your a racist .

I try to meet their hyper sensitivity with some diplomacy and kindness and I survive. A lot of people [from all backgrounds] are on edge these days.They don't need to be tested.
Don't disagree until you arrive at a certain level of intimacy with a person and proceed gingerly..

oki
07-23-2005, 07:21 PM
you mean " no I dont hate arabs, I only hate arab muslims"?

fat mike
07-23-2005, 07:24 PM
you mean " no I dont hate arabs, I only hate arab muslims"?

Oki,who are you talking to? You know I don't hate these people...

oki
07-23-2005, 07:40 PM
Oki,who are you talking to? You know I don't hate these people...
oops I should have quoted....I was talking to pappy, and I was beeing sarcasticly immitating her way of thinking to point out how hypocrit she is. :)

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 07:50 PM
oops I should have quoted....I was talking to pappy, and I was beeing sarcasticly immitating her way of thinking to point out how hypocrit she is. :)


I don't hate, only defenders of butchers have heart full of hate . Aand hypocrits who deny the meaning of their religian, like you .

Spazola
07-23-2005, 08:15 PM
I don't hate, only defenders of butchers have heart full of hate . Aand hypocrits who deny the meaning of their religian, like you .

You mean "religion"? :p


I'll pay more attention to your agruments when you learn how to spell.

thumper
07-23-2005, 08:25 PM
I know a christian that smells. and a woman, and a disabled person.
and please do explane how muslims are incorporating islamic law in europe.
:bowrofl:

type the words "sharia + Canada or France" into google and see what comes up.

Holland and France will be Islamic ghettos in one or two generations.

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 09:19 PM
You mean "religion"? :p


I'll pay more attention to your agruments when you learn how to spell.


I can improve my spelling, but your stupidity is forever . I'm not the only one here who has spelling problems .

Spazola
07-23-2005, 09:23 PM
I can improve my spelling, but your stupidity is forever . I'm not the only one here who has spelling problems .

I know, I have spelling problems too, but when I'm trying to agrue a point I usually try and double check everything (I ask my mom, use a dictionary, ect.)

And calling me stupid dosen't offend me much, anyway. I mean, I can't honestly say I think it mature to call a 13-year-old "stupid" when you're losing a debate. How old are you? 15? 16?

fat mike
07-23-2005, 09:48 PM
I don't see Oki as a butcher defender,he lives in a moslem neighborhood,most of his friends are probably moslem and I bet he doesn't know anyone that's ever had anything
to do with bombs.
This is the whole point.I have moslem friends.They don't build bombs or contribute to alQaeda,they don't subscribe to the American Way or my way of thinking either but they don't deserve to be lumped in with these killers...

thumper
07-23-2005, 09:49 PM
Oki can't be objective on these matters. He's muslim.

fat mike
07-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Oki can't be objective on these matters. He's muslim.

Why is objectivity an issue?Are you being objective?
If a person knows moslems maybe they're actually more familiar with
the background than someone who 's just reading blogs somewhere
written by someone who doesn't know anything about Islam.

thumper
07-23-2005, 10:13 PM
Why is objectivity an issue?Are you being objective?
If a person knows moslems maybe they're actually more familiar with
the background than someone who 's just reading blogs somewhere
written by someone who doesn't know anything about Islam.Pose the question: What do you think about the Islamicization of Europe?

To the European, he might recoil with horror. To the Muslim, he goes Allah-o-Akbar!

Spazola
07-23-2005, 10:18 PM
No insulting your fellow DA members, now. Its one thing to debate, and another thing completely to go picking a fight with someone.

Lets play nicely, now :nice:

fat mike
07-23-2005, 10:35 PM
Pose the question: What do you think about the Islamicization of Europe?

To the European, he might recoil with horror. To the Muslim, he goes Allah-o-Akbar!

I don't want Europe to turn to Islam,I don't think there's any danger of it.
I'm an amisch fundamentalist-Europe is as far from my value system as pan arabia anyway..
The europeans have their own way of thinking,they have an actual history.
They're a lot more grounded than people over here and a lot less impressionable.

Ponycar_302
07-23-2005, 10:44 PM
I know a christian that smells. and a woman, and a disabled person.
Good for you.

and please do explane how muslims are incorporating islamic law in europe.
I didn't say they were. I said they'd try to have it incorporated here like they're trying in Europe.

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 10:46 PM
I know, I have spelling problems too, but when I'm trying to agrue a point I usually try and double check everything (I ask my mom, use a dictionary, ect.)

And calling me stupid dosen't offend me much, anyway. I mean, I can't honestly say I think it mature to call a 13-year-old "stupid" when you're losing a debate. How old are you? 15? 16?


I'm not so sure your 13, but I'll take your word for it . I'm a granny and my youngest grandkid is older than you, if your 13.

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 10:54 PM
I don't see Oki as a butcher defender,he lives in a moslem neighborhood,most of his friends are probably moslem and I bet he doesn't know anyone that's ever had anything
to do with bombs.
This is the whole point.I have moslem friends.They don't build bombs or contribute to alQaeda,they don't subscribe to the American Way or my way of thinking either but they don't deserve to be lumped in with these killers...



So if I lived in a white nazi hood and all my buddys were nazis, would you still have this opinion of live and let live ?

80% of muslems in Aamerica are wahhabi ,like Osama . Try to walk in one of their mosque . I challenge all here to visit a mosque .

Spazola
07-23-2005, 10:54 PM
I'm not so sure your 13, but I'll take your word for it . I'm a granny and my youngest grandkid is older than you, if your 13.

Do you think I'm younger or older than 13? If you think I'm older, then I am flattered :D :D :D

CowPunk
07-23-2005, 10:57 PM
I can improve my spelling, but your stupidity is forever . I'm not the only one here who has spelling problems .
- Spaz is the smartest girl I know. :nice:

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 11:00 PM
Do you think I'm younger or older than 13? If you think I'm older, then I am flattered :D :D :D



13 or younger should have parental supervision on web sites . Wheres your parents ?

Spazola
07-23-2005, 11:03 PM
13 or younger should have parental supervision on web sites . Wheres your parents ?

My parents love that I debate my oppinion and learn new words everyday. If I offended you, I apologize, but I get very passionant (sp?) about my oppinion when someone is insulting an entire culture, some of which they know nothing about.

CowPunk
07-23-2005, 11:05 PM
I wish I had opinions that I was as passionate about when I was 13. At that age, the only thing I was passionate about was my guitar.

thumper
07-23-2005, 11:10 PM
c'mon folks, the muslims are almost getting the message :D

flaming_liberal
07-23-2005, 11:12 PM
13 or younger should have parental supervision on web sites . Wheres your parents ?
I'm looking out for her. She isn't doing anything wrong, and she knows better than that.

thumper
07-23-2005, 11:12 PM
My parents love that I debate my oppinion and learn new words everyday. If I offended you, I apologize, but I get very passionant (sp?) about my oppinion when someone is insulting an entire culture, some of which they know nothing about.stfu already :o

flaming_liberal
07-23-2005, 11:16 PM
stfu already :o
For example, thumper here has offered something that Spaz does not realize is a violation of TOS, but I do.
Thank you for the example, thumper.

C-Bad
07-23-2005, 11:17 PM
I've worked for some Lebonese (muslims) for 6months. Lebonese, Arabs, and other mid-eastern people I've found aren't much "fun" to work for/deal with... I'll leave it at that.


I'm not gonna go into my "honest oppinion" because my freedom of speech= racism and I'd probably get banned from the forum.



:usa:

eeper69
07-23-2005, 11:17 PM
For example, thumper here has offered something that Spaz does not realize is a violation of TOS, but I do.
Thank you for the example, thumper.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :nice:

thumper
07-23-2005, 11:19 PM
For example, thumper here has offered something that Spaz does not realize is a violation of TOS, but I do.
Thank you for the example, thumper.this role playing thing is so neat :p

Spazola
07-23-2005, 11:21 PM
Uh huh, whatever you say, thumper....:rolleyes:

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 11:23 PM
My parents love that I debate my oppinion and learn new words everyday. If I offended you, I apologize, but I get very passionant (sp?) about my oppinion when someone is insulting an entire culture, some of which they know nothing about.



You should get more informed about what you decide to defend against your own people, who muslems feel superior to . So see ya later little infidel . :nice: . PS. Do you agree with 911 ?

fat mike
07-23-2005, 11:25 PM
So if I lived in a white nazi hood and all my buddys were nazis, would you still have this opinion of live and let live ?

80% of muslems in Aamerica are wahhabi ,like Osama . Try to walk in one of their mosque . I challenge all here to visit a mosque .

I'm a white man who has had to deal with a lot of black racists.
I suppose you feel that's easy.
I have moslem friends,I stay away from the topic of religion,I think it's rude
to push religion down people's throats.I do belong to an evangelical sect but
if I'm not careful how I comport myself I could be in serious trouble.
I'm a german,do you think I don't know anything about the nazis?
They're flesh and blood,if they're violent I'll avoid their company.They generally avoid my company because I have all kinds of friends and they
don't associate with whites like me.
It's always live and let live.I'm not violent.

Spazola
07-23-2005, 11:27 PM
You should get more informed about what you decide to defend against your own people, who muslems feel superior to . So see ya later little infidel . :nice:
Have you spoken to every muslim in the world? Do you know, for a fact, that they all think they're better than everyone else?
You should get more informed before you decide to descriminate against a whole culture of people.
. PS. Do you agree with 911 ?
I am afraid I do not understand the question. Could you elaborate?

thumper
07-23-2005, 11:30 PM
Uh huh, whatever you say, thumper....:rolleyes:http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/grouphug.gif

flaming_liberal
07-23-2005, 11:35 PM
Spaz, Pappy wants to know, because you do not hate Muslims, whether or not you supported the terror attacks on 9/11.

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 11:39 PM
Spaz, Pappy wants to know, because you do not hate Muslims, whether or not you supported the terror attacks on 9/11.


You are obsessed with the word ' hate ' . And I hope that kid stays clear of you , no telling what your up to .

thumper
07-23-2005, 11:40 PM
flaming liberal sounds like a pedo

CowPunk
07-23-2005, 11:42 PM
Flaming Lib is NOT a "pedo," and their relationship is perfectly wholesome. :rolleyes:

Ponycar_302
07-23-2005, 11:43 PM
flaming liberal sounds like a pedo
Agreed. Kind of a BDSM paedo-creepy.

C-Bad
07-23-2005, 11:50 PM
You should get more informed about what you decide to defend against your own people, who muslems feel superior to . So see ya later little infidel . :nice: . PS. Do you agree with 911 ?


I would agree with this statement. I worked at a computer store FOR THEM and lots of customers that WERE THEM. They yell and scream at you, they HAVE TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. Even when I was out of there at working at Staples (big retail store) they would come in there and be like "give me a deal.". Yeah right. :rolleyes:

I used to think my dad was "racist" when I was a kid, but through personal experience I take the word "racist" differently now. It's not hating someone cause of the color of their skin..

Pappy&Me
07-23-2005, 11:52 PM
wrong page, sorry! :eek7:

flaming_liberal
07-23-2005, 11:59 PM
Pedophile: "An adult who is sexually attracted to children."
There are several reasons why I cannot be a pedophile. First, I'm not an adult. Second, I'm not sexually attracted to children. Third, Spaz is not really a child. Fourth, I am more sexually attracted to my souvenir rock than I am to Spaz. Actually, bad comparison. That rock is pretty sexy. I'm more sexually attracted to my bee sting than I am to Spaz. In other words, if my sexual attraction to persons were to be placed on a linear model, my attraction to Spaz would fall on negative infinity. How does that work for you?


And thank you, CP.

Pappy&Me
07-24-2005, 12:06 AM
Pedophile: "An adult who is sexually attracted to children."
There are several reasons why I cannot be a pedophile. First, I'm not an adult. Second, I'm not sexually attracted to children. Third, Spaz is not really a child. Fourth, I am more sexually attracted to my souvenir rock than I am to Spaz. Actually, bad comparison. That rock is pretty sexy. I'm more sexually attracted to my bee sting than I am to Spaz. In other words, if my sexual attraction to persons were to be placed on a linear model, my attraction to Spaz would fall on negative infinity. How does that work for you?


And thank you, CP.


Then you shouldn't play games with adults here . And your parents should be ashamed for not keeping eye on you .

thumper
07-24-2005, 12:07 AM
Pedophile: "An adult who is sexually attracted to children."
There are several reasons why I cannot be a pedophile. First, I'm not an adult. Second, I'm not sexually attracted to children. Third, Spaz is not really a child. Fourth, I am more sexually attracted to my souvenir rock than I am to Spaz. Actually, bad comparison. That rock is pretty sexy. I'm more sexually attracted to my bee sting than I am to Spaz. In other words, if my sexual attraction to persons were to be placed on a linear model, my attraction to Spaz would fall on negative infinity. How does that work for you?


And thank you, CP.that's pretty sick

flaming_liberal
07-24-2005, 12:08 AM
Then you shouldn't play games with adults here . And your parents should be ashamed for not keeping eye on you . Huh? Play games? And what's this about my parents being ashamed? For what?

Hey thumper, you want to make a blind accusation, you get an answer that reflects just how much I care about it anyway.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Then you shouldn't play games with adults here . And your parents should be ashamed for not keeping eye on you .
- Chris is an 18 year-old soon-to-be-college freshman, and HARDLY needs parental supervision on the Internet. I find his posts to be more adult than many of the over 30s here.

thumper
07-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Huh? Play games? And what's this about my parents being ashamed? For what?

Hey thumper, you want to make a blind accusation, you get an answer that reflects just how much I care about it anyway.the first step in treating your problem is admitting you have a problem http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/happysad.gif

fat mike
07-24-2005, 12:29 AM
Are you guys going to keep flinging mud or can we debate the actual topic?

Pappy&Me
07-24-2005, 12:33 AM
Are you guys going to keep flinging mud or can we debate the actual topic?


I have them both on my ignor list .

I think we will be overcome if we keep letting these leaders govern us .

fat mike
07-24-2005, 12:44 AM
I have them both on my ignor list .

I think we will be overcome if we keep letting these leaders govern us .

It's odd how much you can agree and disagree with the same person,me,if we were talking about violent evil people I'd not want to give them the time of day.The mslems are a very diverse group.but anyway I do feel you're not an ill intentioned person and neither is cbad eg,just because a person is suspicious of moslems doesn't make them bad,it'd be incredible after what happened if there weren't a lot of people who were like that,and it's a shame
there isn't the attention by the moslems on repairing the rift-I guess they're defensive,the whole thng is really awful...

Kyrgyzstan
07-24-2005, 01:37 AM
Dear ladies & jentlemen

Why do we separate each other by religion? I think it's not right to assert that someone who is muslim smells and someone who is christian doesn't smell... maybe we shouldn't believe in god if this belief separate people and make some of them smell...

Snouter
07-24-2005, 03:34 AM
It is funny the issue of foul odor has come up in regards to Muslims. I went to the grocery store today and as I walked by several Muslims wearing jimbeams (similar to burkas), there was an offensive stench emanating from them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1590000/images/_1593348_muslim_dress_300.jpg

Many of the obese American pigs in the store were visually grotesque, but they did not have that particular smell.

lily
07-24-2005, 03:52 AM
First, I'm not an adult.

- Chris is an 18 year-old soon-to-be-college freshman,

Um... these two statements don't go together. (just sayin) :)

And Spaz is not the only minor here.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 03:59 AM
Parents are responsible for the children until the age of 21 in most states, and Chris can't legally buy beer until that time in most either.

So I think he's justified in that assessment.

oki
07-24-2005, 04:03 AM
I don't hate, only defenders of butchers have heart full of hate . Aand hypocrits who deny the meaning of their religian, like you .
bla bla duck duck.

oki
07-24-2005, 04:05 AM
:bowrofl:

type the words "sharia + Canada or France" into google and see what comes up.

Holland and France will be Islamic ghettos in one or two generations.france has no sharia influences at all. show proof please. canada is not in europe. and your end conclusion is rediculous. based on nothing.

oki
07-24-2005, 04:06 AM
Oki can't be objective on these matters. He's muslim.Im not a muslim.

oki
07-24-2005, 04:08 AM
Pose the question: What do you think about the Islamicization of Europe?

To the European, he might recoil with horror. To the Muslim, he goes Allah-o-Akbar! you dont know any muslims, you are just paranoid. 89% of dutch current generation muslims doesnt go to the mosque.

oki
07-24-2005, 04:11 AM
I didn't say they were. I said they'd try to have it incorporated here like they're trying in Europe. that will never happen. to be honest, I do know of one french suburb where muslims opposed alcohol in their shopping mall. thats about as far as it goes. and ofcoruse they didnt get what they wanted.

Kyrgyzstan
07-24-2005, 05:15 AM
france has no sharia influences at all. show proof please. canada is not in europe. and your end conclusion is rediculous. based on nothing.

Excuse me Oki,
I informed you before that my english was not very fluent, and i have a question to you(as a student to teacher) concerning your post

which one is right: ridiculous or rediculous?
Thank you.

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 06:38 AM
Too early for France.
It's turn didn't came yet.
The islamists still need France silence when they are coercing Egypt and Turkey.

fat mike
07-24-2005, 07:15 AM
Excuse me Oki,
I informed you before that my english was not very fluent, and i have a question to you(as a student to teacher) concerning your post

which one is right: ridiculous or rediculous?
Thank you.

Ridiculous,Oki's dutch,his first language is dutch.

Too early for France.
It's turn didn't came yet.
The islamists still need France silence when they are coercing Egypt and Turkey.

Bombs are hardly good diplomacy-egypt...I appreciate you're dead in the middle of the conflict,Coral,you have my sympathy,but though you're right that Europe has little use for Israel I still don't think that renders them vulnerable to Islam,Europe is more secular than we are...

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 07:46 AM
Bombs are hardly good diplomacy-egypt...I appreciate you're dead in the middle of the conflict,Coral,you have my sympathy,but though you're right that Europe has little use for Israel I still don't think that renders them vulnerable to Islam,Europe is more secular than we are...

What I"m saying is the world IS in a war against islamists, that wish to dictate their terms.
Egypt and Turkey are the first in line, but what happens there should not be seen as not related to the west.
Actually moderate muslims are sometimes complaining that the west policy is not supporting them, but the more radical ones.

Epicius
07-24-2005, 09:14 AM
I live in a highly muslim neighbourhood, and yes, I do have many muslim friends, some six years back I was on contract as fulltime work was a bit scarce, I got home about couple of months or so for a week. My wife was in an accident, she didn't want to notify me as I would have come hjome and we could not really afford the loss of income. My neighbours from three doors up (pakistani muslims) took my daughters in and looked after them, even though they had six children of their own, and when my wife came out of hospital they nursed her during her onvalescence and guess what, my wife and daughters weren't raped, my wife and daughters weren't behaeded or blown up or shot or forcibly converted to Islam, the only thing that they asked was that, when muslim,visitors came round they should dress in trousers not skirts.

As for the alcohol bit, my local off-licence is run by muslims, they do a very good deal.


As for the odour you will find that most people smell to a greater or lesser extent . I have noted smelly muslims, christians, jews and atheists. Smelliest person I ever knew was a Buddhist who used to walk around the streets of London barefoot and didn't wash them when he came in. After a day of walking in the pavement pizzas and dog leavings round Kilburn you really did not want him in your home and his was downright whiffy.

Another reason for noticing body odour is that it is different to yours and much body odour depends on what you eat, don't believe me? Change your diet radically for a week and then sniff under your armpit, before you put on the camouflaging deodorant, you will notice a difference.

Epicius
07-24-2005, 09:24 AM
I would agree with this statement. I worked at a computer store FOR THEM and lots of customers that WERE THEM. They yell and scream at you, they HAVE TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. Even when I was out of there at working at Staples (big retail store) they would come in there and be like "give me a deal.". Yeah right. :rolleyes:



If you think that bosses don't want everything their way you must have had some very lenient bosses, and as for computer trade ifits anything like retail greengrocers or hifi you try telling people that they don't want lemons they want potatoes, or that they don't want a CD player they want a tapedeck.

And yes they do ask for deals for bulk, so do I and I am a white heathen. I buy appliances and ask if there is anything off for cash on the nail and most times I get it, usually about 5 - 10%.

And the deal? many of them have been brought up in a culture where bargaining is a way of life. I remember going to the stores with an aunt who had been a missionary in Africa, listening to her haggle with assistants on the prices of goods.

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 09:33 AM
And the deal? many of them have been brought up in a culture where bargaining is a way of life. I remember going to the stores with an aunt who had been a missionary in Africa, listening to her haggle with assistants on the prices of goods.

Ha, when I go to an arab store, I know I will pay much more then needed, if I'm not taking with me someone who is good in barganing.
Those are just different rules of the game, that I don't bother to play by, not better or worse, different.

Epicius
07-24-2005, 09:44 AM
Those are just different rules of the game, that I don't bother to play by, not better or worse, different.


Strange I love a good haggle, one of the best entertainments around. You should hear my father and stepmother double team car salesmen - sweet!

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 09:46 AM
Strange I love a good haggle, one of the best entertainments around. You should hear my father and stepmother double team car salesmen - sweet!

I'm paying what I'm asked.
Fixed prices places - those for me.

Spazola
07-24-2005, 10:52 AM
Ooooh, nine eleven....it looked like you were asking me if I believed in nine one one....:p

Yes, I do believe that it happened, but I don't believe that every muslim on the planet should be held responsible. There are some muslims, just normal people, who were sitting at home during that time, probably thinking how horrible it was that all those people died, just like us.
Calling all muslims are terrorist is like me calling all you white-folks slave runners.

And you guys can say whatever you want about Flaimg_liberal. You're not worth me getting all worked up and defensive over.

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:24 AM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2005_07.php

:nice:

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:25 AM
Ooooh, nine eleven....it looked like you were asking me if I believed in nine one one....:p

Yes, I do believe that it happened, but I don't believe that every muslim on the planet should be held responsible. There are some muslims, just normal people, who were sitting at home during that time, probably thinking how horrible it was that all those people died, just like us.
Calling all muslims are terrorist is like me calling all you white-folks slave runners.

And you guys can say whatever you want about Flaimg_liberal. You're not worth me getting all worked up and defensive over.kumbaiya...

Spazola
07-24-2005, 11:26 AM
:link: :p

Spazola
07-24-2005, 11:27 AM
kumbaiya...

Thumper, if you can't argue, dont.

How old are you, hon? Ten? Eleven?

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Thumper, if you can't argue, dont.

How old are you, hon? Ten? Eleven?You misunderstand. Perhaps not every muslim is demonically possessed, but their presence is not compatible with a Western society that enjoys things like the lack of bhurkas, gang rapes, suicide bombings, sharia law, ghettos, jihad, etc.

Spazola
07-24-2005, 11:36 AM
There is only one word I can use to explain my feeling of hopelessness of ever getting through to you:

Whatever.

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:37 AM
There is only one word I can use to explain my feeling of hopelessness of ever getting through to you:

Whatever.you go to a public school don't you :p

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 12:14 PM
She's homeschooled, and did incredibly well on her state exams. :nice:

Epicius
07-24-2005, 12:35 PM
She's homeschooled, and did incredibly well on her state exams. :nice:

And seems to be a remarkably intelligent, sensible and well balanced young lady. Who also lacks the bigotry of some.

Epicius
07-24-2005, 12:42 PM
BLast double post

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 12:47 PM
And seems to be a remarkably intelligent, sensible and well balanced young lady. Who also lacks the bigotry of some.

I would not say she is that intelligent, since I didn't noticed originality in her thinking.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 12:49 PM
She's 13 years old, Coral! You're expecting her to be Simone de Beauvoir already??? :rolleyes:

flaming_liberal
07-24-2005, 01:28 PM
Having the most interaction with her among anyone on DA (short of her RL friends, maybe), I can assure you that she is quite intelligent, and her thinking is not considered original by you because others have alrady stated her thoughts, but how she arrived at her own conclusions is surprisingly unique, especially for one so young. She is just more innocent and ignorant of world than she believes she is.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 01:31 PM
I mentioned it earlier in the thread (and Spaz probably would not appreciate my saying it) but I'll repeat: she's the brightest kid I've met that age, with the possible exception of my son.

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 01:33 PM
Rashid here is the same age, and he is real intelligent.

h2g2Fan
07-24-2005, 01:37 PM
the vocal racist minority

flaming_liberal
07-24-2005, 01:48 PM
Rashid here is the same age, and he is real intelligent.
And quite limited in what he says and does. Truth be told, he is older than Spaz, and he is also very knowledgeable. Intelligent? I can't say one way or the other, since I have seen him post little outside of the debates about Islam.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 01:50 PM
He's also a bright kid, as are Spaz's friends, Yokoshiro and Arcova.

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 01:54 PM
And quite limited in what he says and does. Truth be told, he is older than Spaz, and he is also very knowledgeable. Intelligent? I can't say one way or the other, since I have seen him post little outside of the debates about Islam.

He post mostly on Islam releted issues, but he has his own thoughts.
That's why I see him as real inteligent.

flaming_liberal
07-24-2005, 01:57 PM
As I said, coral, I don't hold an opinion of him one way or the other.
And I agree, CP, they are bright. Except Arcova has issues.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 02:08 PM
Well, Chris, I had a feeling that wasn't going to pass without mention. :)

Snouter
07-24-2005, 02:11 PM
Calling all muslims are terrorist is like me calling all you white-folks slave runners.

Not only do the majority of Muslims support Muslim Terrorism, but Arab Muslims were heavily involved in slave trading throughout their history.

coral100cor
07-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Maybe we should start a thread "gossiping about our young friends"

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Saying nice things about how intelligent they are is HARDLY "gossiping." :rolleyes:

king of kings
07-24-2005, 04:59 PM
You lot are like my Brothers, when ever Rashid gets a school report its like, "ohh his like this and his like that, wow if only we were like this and we were like that", all this does him no good, I have to live with him.
Now the most intelligent kid on DA is and can only be CowPunk, :p,
no CowPunk has got it right, its all of them that he has mentioned, even Aracova, there is nothing wrong with him or her. I would say that Spazola would be far more intelligent if she went to a proper school, she is the Most intelligent kid on DA.

(Sorry for going of topic). :)

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 05:36 PM
I think I'm the brightest 45 year-old in school, KoK. :nice:
:D :D :D

And it would probably help if you didn't keep losing fights to your now 14 year-old brother as well. :)

Spazola
07-24-2005, 07:59 PM
Awww, you guys are sweet :D

I'm not as smart as you think I am, though.

And, KoK, if I went to a proper school around here, I might have been shot by now :p

Spazola
07-24-2005, 08:23 PM
flaming liberal sounds like a pedo

Actually, he sounds nothing like a pedophile. Believe me, I've met some before, I should know. :rolleyes:

thumper
07-24-2005, 08:47 PM
wum :|

Spazola
07-24-2005, 09:25 PM
Wum, eh? :p

Are you going to tell me what it means, or should I assume the worst?

Monster
07-24-2005, 10:10 PM
Oh, I do hope he tells you what it means.

I'm curious too.

Spazola
07-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Oh, I do hope he tells you what it means.

I'm curious too.


I think it means "whatever you moron", but I wanted to make sure before I paid too much attention to it.

thumper
07-24-2005, 10:23 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/

Spazola
07-24-2005, 10:31 PM
1. Wum
Exclamation expressing any emotion.
"You suck!"

"Wum."

Alright, then.

Erhnam
07-24-2005, 10:37 PM
I wouldn't mind Muslims as a whole, just not the "we hate the west" types that seem to be fully supported by at least 1 out 4 Muslim, a far too significant of a portion, at least according to that recent survey.

News flash:

You don't like it, get the **** out.

thumper
07-24-2005, 10:41 PM
http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/terrorist8.gif


http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/terrorist88.gif

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 10:44 PM
I wouldn't mind Muslims as a whole, just not the "we hate the west" types that seem to be fully supported by at least 1 out 4 Muslim, a far too significant of a portion, at least according to that recent survey.

News flash:

You don't like it, get the **** out.
- Or, alternatively, change things through the democratic process.

thumper
07-24-2005, 10:52 PM
- Or, alternatively, change things through the democratic process.wouldn't that interfere with Lefty social engineering :shrug:

Erhnam
07-24-2005, 10:56 PM
- Or, alternatively, change things through the democratic process.

The only problem is that democracy is what they seem to loathe the most.

Spazola
07-24-2005, 10:56 PM
http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/terrorist8.gif


http://pichold.com/Images/Smilies/terrorist88.gif


:nonono:

thumper
07-24-2005, 10:58 PM
If there was such thing as democracy in the European countries (mob rule), Londonistan would never have had a chance to take root.

fat mike
07-24-2005, 11:21 PM
wouldn't that interfere with Lefty social engineering :shrug:

Social engineering is just your fancy word for people wanting to change society.You're not happy with society the way it is either or you wouldn't be blaming the liberals for all this[shudder] multi culturalism.

The only problem is that democracy is what they seem to loathe the most.

They're not going to accept a blueprint dictated by a culture with foreign values.
They don't accept the arrogant attitude of the West : We're going to fix you and change you.
I think we have something valid to show them but let's not shove it down their throats.Democracy means that they have input as to what kind of system they want governing them.

If there was such thing as democracy in the European countries (mob rule), Londonistan would never have had a chance to take root.

There are many different political systems in Europe and they're all influenced by democracy.If you're going to require everyone to live by your short sighted precepts what does that have to do with democracy?
Everyone has to imitate the US during the cold war inthe 50's-your blueprint,
get a clue,Mcarthy almost destroyed democracy...
Your bumper sticker philosophy isn't adequate..

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:24 PM
Social engineering is just your fancy word for people wanting to change society.You're not happy with society the way it is either or you wouldn't be blaming the liberals for all this[shudder] multi culturalism.offer proof that the various western countries were ever allowed referendums, votes, plebiscites, etc. on the issue of, "shall we dissolve the nation-state and become multi-cultural?"

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 11:30 PM
wouldn't that interfere with Lefty social engineering :shrug:
- Only if you think it's "social engineering."

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:31 PM
- Only if you think it's "social engineering."oops, I meant liberalism.

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:33 PM
Hey CowPunk, how exactly have the British people been "enriched" by state sanctioned multi-cult when every other week a pyschotic Imam is threatening to blow them up and it's forcing everyone to live in a police state?

fat mike
07-24-2005, 11:36 PM
offer proof that the various western countries were ever allowed referendums, votes, plebiscites, etc. on the issue of, "shall we dissolve the nation-state and become multi-cultural?"

You're blithely ignoring the level of social control necessary to contain population movements.Surely anyone would be willing to submit to your autocracy to avoid having to associate with someone who dresses funny...

thumper
07-24-2005, 11:45 PM
You're blithely ignoring the level of social control necessary to contain population movements.Surely anyone would be willing to submit to your autocracy to avoid having to associate with someone who dresses funny...ah, you mean border security.

Funny how every other country has seemed to have mastered the art.

CowPunk
07-24-2005, 11:46 PM
Hey CowPunk, how exactly have the British people been "enriched" by state sanctioned multi-cult when every other week a pyschotic Imam is threatening to blow them up and it's forcing everyone to live in a police state?
- The answer to radical religious terrorists is a whites-only state? Sounds like your using terrorism as an excuse to promote white nationalism.

fat mike
07-24-2005, 11:56 PM
ah, you mean border security.

Funny how every other country has seemed to have mastered the art.

Reality check,you're just now complaining about Europe.You can't have it both ways.

thumper
07-25-2005, 02:11 AM
- The answer to radical religious terrorists is a whites-only state? Sounds like your using terrorism as an excuse to promote white nationalism.Was britain at risk of being blown up by towel heads when it was whites only? :)

Monster
07-25-2005, 02:16 AM
Was Britain as multi-racial as it is now when it was bombed by the Nazis? :|

thumper
07-25-2005, 02:19 AM
Was Britain as multi-racial as it is now when it was bombed by the Nazis? :|No, but why destabilize society and create more enemies?

CowPunk
07-25-2005, 02:21 AM
Was britain at risk of being blown up by towel heads when it was whites only? :)
- No, it was at risk from being blown up the IRA! :rolleyes:

thumper
07-25-2005, 02:32 AM
- No, it was at risk from being blown up the IRA! :rolleyes:Now we can add Al Qaeda to the list. How multi-cultural! :nice:

Scott
07-25-2005, 03:49 AM
"Towel Heads"? is that really needed?


Couldn't you use some sort of non-racist nominclature?

oki
07-25-2005, 11:00 AM
I thought the conversation about spaz's intelligence was more entertaining.

86Dude
07-26-2005, 02:01 PM
Just what I want in my community, some nimrod screaming through a loud speaker in Arabic at 4:30 in the morning.

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