The news just keeps on comming about the Al Quida planned nuke attacks . There are at least 40 suitcase nukes, mines and missel warheads that informants have told of . One such was captured Al Quida elite.

The president had ordered in 2001 extra bunkers in metro areas for government management . No plans for any of us .

If you see your 'peaceful' or otherwise muslems leaving town in large groups or hoods, then you better take whatever action you can for cover . Also if stock market takes a quick fall something may be up .

This article should be read and also the NukAlert.com website . If you scroll around this site is full of useful info for free , even if some things are for sale . I read how to prepare,food,shelter,etc. on it .


www.NukAlert.com

www.wnd.com

National Security group sees increased risk for nukes . Berger,Clark,and some Pelosi, plus others are upset with bush not doing more to warn us .

There probly won't be any banks, grocery stores hospitals or anything else opened . The wind off a nuk can be 287 mph. More than tornados . It will last only seconds to minutes ,so plan now how to take cover .

This is looking more evident everyday .

Do you wear combat fatigues and build leaf shelters, Who?

Do you wear combat fatigues and build leaf shelters, Who?


No ,but I am as prepared as I can get ,which of couse not as good as I'd like to be . I hope your doing something too Malcolm.

No ,but I am as prepared as I can get ,which of couse not as good as I'd like to be . I hope your doing something too Malcolm.

Well you could say that I did something long ago. I left the United States.
And yes, I left consciously because I did not agree with the American way. Not specifically because I knew our way would make the US less safe to live in, nevertheless: I consider my departure as the best kind of preparation one can make for such an attack, and I have thought ever since I was old enough to think about such matters, that someone would eventually target the US because of our foreign policies.

M.

Well you could say that I did something long ago. I left the United States.
And yes, I left consciously because I did not agree with the American way. Not specifically because I knew our way would make the US less safe to live in, nevertheless: I consider my departure as the best kind of preparation one can make for such an attack, and I have thought ever since I was old enough to think about such matters, that someone would eventually target the US because of our foreign policies.

M.


Well at least you didn't stay and condenm it, like most do . And I'm glad for anyone who has gotten out of harms way...for now. But this is not something that will stop here . It won't stop until all are islam or they are stood p against like the Crusaders did centuries ago . Not that the Crusaders were not murderous also, but they didn't have their religian behind them, the muslems do . if your true quran obeying muslem, than your my worst enemy, probly .

Well at least you didn't stay and condenm it, like most do . And I'm glad for anyone who has gotten out of harms way...for now. But this is not something that will stop here . It won't stop until all are islam or they are stood p against like the Crusaders did centuries ago . Not that the Crusaders were not murderous also, but they didn't have their religian behind them, the muslems do . if your true quran obeying muslem, than your my worst enemy, probly .
Most Muslims are peaceful people. Don't let a few radicals sway you. This is exactly the tactic the terrorists use, spread the word that American people are all evil.
Why would you say the Crusaders didn't have their religion behind them? Back in the day the church held more power than it does now. The church & the Royals ruled hand in hand.

www.NukAlert.com


I personally have been keeping a close eye on the site NyukAlert.com, which has been forecasting a vicious and unprovoked attack on certain population centers with selzer bottles, cream pies, and two-by-fours by an as yet undisclosed group of 3 clumsy Jewish comedians...

;) Just a little levity for a thread that's a little paranoid...

"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you." Yossarian, Catch-22.

at least 40 suitcase nukes


This is a bit perposterous. You should quit reading WND. It's intellectual sewage.

This is a bit perposterous. You should quit reading WND. It's intellectual sewage.
Absolutely right, BooRadley. (About WND) :nice:

"Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you." Yossarian, Catch-22.
"When everyone is out to get you, paranoia's just good thinking!"
Johnny Fever, WKRP in Cincinnati

seriously, guesswho, you have to stop reading those crap sites or youll end up a complete paranoid person.

Most Muslims are peaceful people. Don't let a few radicals sway you. This is exactly the tactic the terrorists use, spread the word that American people are all evil.


I hope you are correct but Im curious. If as you say most muslims are peaceful, do you also mean that they also do not support terrorism?
And if so, why are they so quiet in regards to condemning and battling it within their own community?

I believe that 1/2 of winning this war against radical Islam will have to come from within the Islamic community itself. As it stands now this battle within Islam is just not occurring.
How many fatwa's have been issued condeming terrorists who use the name of Allah to justify the intentional killing of women and children to hell?

I hope you are correct but Im curious. If as you say most muslims are peaceful, do you also mean that they also do not support terrorism?
And if so, why are they so quiet in regards to condemning and battling it within their own community?

I believe that 1/2 of winning this war against radical Islam will have to come from within the Islamic community itself. As it stands now this battle within Islam is just not occurring.
How many fatwa's have been issued condeming terrorists who use the name of Allah to justify the intentional killing of women and children to hell?

You won't see any muslem tell them they are evil and will go to hell .!

This is what I mean about the difference in islam and christianity . When islam do these things it is backed by quran, when christians do it they are going outside the New Testament if they kill or torture. Nowhere in the New Testament will it ever tell you to torture, behead infidels or anyone else . Where the quran commands this ,to kill, beleager,decieve,enslave those who are not islamic . There are two lands in islam ,one for islam and one that has to be wared upon .

The CAIR group has had many terrorist jailed or deported for this . They have said for all USA to hear that they are not here to assimilate into our culure, but to change America to islam , [not a quote,but same meaning].

We will rule the day we let mosque be put in America . We killed our own because they were cult ," Waco,David Koresh,and Ruby Ridge for a hell of alot less. Something fishy is going on with our leaders it seems .

PS, I personally think that alot of these posters are muslem , who are doing the will of quran and lying to others .

Show me ONE NATION that has improved with this religian .

seriously, guesswho, you have to stop reading those crap sites or youll end up a complete paranoid person.


Anyone who dissagrees with you and your terror buddies is paranoid . I'v seen your sympathizing replys to them . Not to speak of how much contempt you have for America .

This is a bit perposterous. You should quit reading WND. It's intellectual sewage.



Alot of this comes from Associated Press and Fox . WND just has quick reference to it . Some is official WND .

When islam do these things it is backed by quran, when christians do it they are going outside the New Testament if they kill or torture. Nowhere in the New Testament will it ever tell you to torture, behead infidels or anyone else . Where the quran commands this ,to kill, beleager,decieve,enslave those who are not islamic . There are two lands in islam ,one for islam and one that has to be wared upon .


Pappy&Me can you show me were in The Holy Quran it say that?.

Pappy&Me can you show me were in The Holy Quran it say that?.


Your the one thumpping it, you show me where it is so 'peaceful'.

Your the one who needs to wake up and smell the death of this cult . Why do so many waste innocent lives just be have ogy in paradise ? Practicing by the book laws of islam kill their own sisters,daughters and mothers for honor .

Your the one thumpping it, you show me where it is so 'peaceful'.

It is not me who is trying to prove something, your trying to prove a thing then back it up, ohhh i know you can not prove it because all of it is BS.

It is not me who is trying to prove something, your trying to prove a thing then back it up, ohhh i know you can not prove it because all of it is BS.

How long have you been muslem ?

I hope you are correct but Im curious. If as you say most muslims are peaceful, do you also mean that they also do not support terrorism?
And if so, why are they so quiet in regards to condemning and battling it within their own community?...

....How many fatwa's have been issued condeming terrorists who use the name of Allah to justify the intentional killing of women and children to hell?
They are not quiet. Muslims in NZ expressed their condemnation of terrorism on 8th July, the day after the London bombing, as did Muslim leaders in the UK. It's just that any such condemnation is not reported in the USA (AFAIK) and ignored in NZ and the UK, by people who want to believe that all Muslims are terrorists!

A fatwa was issued by Muslim leaders in the UK, last week. I heard about it on the BBC World service.

First news item -

Spanish Muslims issue fatwa (http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr42a.html)
I note that Fox News even reported this one... how come you didn't know?
2004 one 2004 fatwa (http://www.saudiembassy.net/2004News/Press/PressDetail.asp?cYear=2004&cIndex=217)
The London news. Guardian story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1529920,00.html)
AnotherUK Sunnis condemn terrorism (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8569164/)

They are not quiet. Muslims in NZ expressed their condemnation of terrorism on 8th July, the day after the London bombing, as did Muslim leaders in the UK. It's just that any such condemnation is not reported in the USA (AFAIK) and ignored in NZ and the UK, by people who want to believe that all Muslims are terrorists!

A fatwa was issued by Muslim leaders in the UK, last week. I heard about it on the BBC World service.

First news item -

Spanish Muslims issue fatwa (http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr42a.html)
I note that Fox News even reported this one... how come you didn't know?
2004 one 2004 fatwa (http://www.saudiembassy.net/2004News/Press/PressDetail.asp?cYear=2004&cIndex=217)
The London news. Guardian story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1529920,00.html)
AnotherUK Sunnis condemn terrorism (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8569164/)



ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION . do you get it ? Submission to allah even if it means to kill you .

All the books on the Crusaders, yet no books on islam crusades against the world for 217 years ,actually 1400 yr.s.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION . do you get it ? Submission to allah even if it means to kill you .

All the books on the Crusaders, yet no books on islam crusades against the world for 217 years ,actually 1400 yr.s.
P&M, did you actually follow the links?

They are not quiet. Muslims in NZ expressed their condemnation of terrorism on 8th July, the day after the London bombing, as did Muslim leaders in the UK. It's just that any such condemnation is not reported in the USA (AFAIK) and ignored in NZ and the UK, by people who want to believe that all Muslims are terrorists!

A fatwa was issued by Muslim leaders in the UK, last week. I heard about it on the BBC World service.

First news item -

Spanish Muslims issue fatwa (http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr42a.html)
I note that Fox News even reported this one... how come you didn't know?
2004 one 2004 fatwa (http://www.saudiembassy.net/2004News/Press/PressDetail.asp?cYear=2004&cIndex=217)
The London news. Guardian story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1529920,00.html)
AnotherUK Sunnis condemn terrorism (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8569164/)


Thats great news. Maybe things are beginning to change. Hopefully we'll see more fatwa's issued calling for OBL's execution and that all terrorists bombers will most definetly go to hell for what they do.

seriously, guesswho, you have to stop reading those crap sites or youll end up a complete paranoid person.

Are you saying that it's paranoid to think that El-Queda exists?
That they are willing to get and use the most destroying weapons?
That they are efficiant in getting what they want?
The conclusion - it is just a matter of time.

They are not quiet. Muslims in NZ expressed their condemnation of terrorism on 8th July, the day after the London bombing, as did Muslim leaders in the UK. It's just that any such condemnation is not reported in the USA (AFAIK) and ignored in NZ and the UK, by people who want to believe that all Muslims are terrorists!

A fatwa was issued by Muslim leaders in the UK, last week. I heard about it on the BBC World service.

First news item -

Spanish Muslims issue fatwa (http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4637/terr42a.html)
I note that Fox News even reported this one... how come you didn't know?
2004 one 2004 fatwa (http://www.saudiembassy.net/2004News/Press/PressDetail.asp?cYear=2004&cIndex=217)
The London news. Guardian story (http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1529920,00.html)
AnotherUK Sunnis condemn terrorism (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8569164/)

I'm sure that this kind of news are propertly reported, as you just dicovered yourself.
Not like some lame anti-israeli accusasions, that are never reported, in NZ specially, as they are - perfectly proven lame accusations.

Anyone who dissagrees with you and your terror buddies is paranoid . I'v seen your sympathizing replys to them . Not to speak of how much contempt you have for America .its probebly too late for you allready....

how can you even say that I have terrorist buddies? its obvious that you dont read anything I write here, only see what you want to see.

april just posted links of muslims condemning the violence, and you dont even see it, you just blabber on about how evil they are.

Are you saying that it's paranoid to think that El-Queda exists?
That they are willing to get and use the most destroying weapons?
That they are efficiant in getting what they want?
The conclusion - it is just a matter of time. Im saying its paranoid to think that all muslims want to instate an islamic rule over teh world, want to kill all non-muslims, and are out to destroy us all. its BS. even you know this, Im sure. you and the other are LETTING yourselves be terrorised by them this way.
terrorist bombings in itself dont acheave anything exept a lot of innocent people dead. the real acheavement of these exremists is to spread hate, to make you hate and fear all muslims, sothat these muslims will hate the west for hating them, sothat the conflict grows. its pretty sad that you cant see that. people should be working at standing together against these criminals, instead of constantly spreading paranoia about muslims in general.

the real acheavement of these exremists is to spread hate, to make you hate and fear all muslims, sothat these muslims will hate the west for hating them, sothat the conflict grows. its pretty sad that you cant see that. people should be working at standing together against these criminals, instead of constantly spreading paranoia about muslims in general.

You got it. The terrorists want a clash of civilizations, to borrow Fukyama's phrase. They want us to destroy our own society, and they want us to declare war on theirs. Breed contempt. They want you to be suspicious... to fear... to hate...

Im saying its paranoid to think that all muslims want to instate an islamic rule over teh world, want to kill all non-muslims, and are out to destroy us all. its BS. even you know this, Im sure. you and the other are LETTING yourselves be terrorised by them this way.
terrorist bombings in itself dont acheave anything exept a lot of innocent people dead. the real acheavement of these exremists is to spread hate, to make you hate and fear all muslims, sothat these muslims will hate the west for hating them, sothat the conflict grows. its pretty sad that you cant see that. people should be working at standing together against these criminals, instead of constantly spreading paranoia about muslims in general.

And how this post is even slightly connected to what I was saying?

And just for the record - I don't hate muslims or think they should be hated.
I live in a country that can hardly be imagine without mosgues.
But to try and estimate real danger, part of which is connected to the position of the muslim majority (and I'm not saying this majority thinks that all infidels should be dead or something stupid like that, it is of cource much more complicated), is needed.

And I do think that what really is going on in London mosques, what young people are getting from them, there was ignored from political reasons for too long.
Even the fact that two terrorists, who blow up a restorount in Israel, were reqrueted in London mosdue - didn't ring a bell.
So now saying - don't even talk about it, don't mention the subject - it can arouse hate - is not smart. MUch more hate will be aroused by more terror attacks, that such approach will allow.

. They want you to be suspicious...

To be suspicious when you have a reason to be is not a bad thing.

To be suspicious when you have a reason to be is not a bad thing.


Don't take that in isolation of the rest of the quote- to be suspicious, which leads to fear, then hate...

I'm not saying we shouldn't be suspicious. Well, probably I could get away with not being suspicious, based on where I live. If the terrorists would attack podunk-ville in the middle of nowhere, F it!

Anyway, we must be careful not to allow fear, suspicion and hate dictate our policy. Next thing we know "poof" goes our freedoms.