http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/602121.html

I thought that in England people are not saying such things in public anymore...

I think the politically correct environment there dictates that Muslim Terrorists and their sympathizers have freedom to spew all the "hate" speech they want as long as it attacks The West.

its really not politically correct to support sueside bombers, snouter.

its really not politically correct to support sueside bombers, snouter.

Appearently it is.

I really don't think the issue here is political correctness... I think it is that (and I didn't read the link) apparently the mayor of London has made a completely outrageous statement, and should apologize for it immediately.

These sorts of things only perpetuate the problems we face today. Do the Palestinian people have legitimate gripes? Sure. The Israeli people do as well. Blowing oneself up on a crowded bus is not going to solve the problem. Bulldozing homes isn't either. What needs to happen is that both sides need to finally realize that the current course will lead only to more death.

What a horrendous thing to say. I hope the folks of London vote him out for his next term.

BTW, It is politically correct to say it...either he wants another suicide attack or hes trying to prevent another one by saying the west is responsible somehow.

I really don't think the issue here is political correctness... I think it is that (and I didn't read the link) apparently the mayor of London has made a completely outrageous statement, and should apologize for it immediately.


I'm sure he thinks that he is right.
And that he is also terribly objective, since the last sentence there is that he would even be ready to meet the members of israeli government, despite their evilness...

Without derailing the thread (because the comment is obviously more significant), I guess I've just gotten to the point where I don't even know what "politically correct" means anymore. I mean, I understand that it refers to comments that aren't completely honest but are politically expedient, but it is SO over used anymore that it seems as though folks just whip it out when someone says something they don't agree with. But again, this isn't what matters in this thread...

These sorts of things only perpetuate the problems we face today. Do the Palestinian people have legitimate gripes? Sure. The Israeli people do as well. Blowing oneself up on a crowded bus is not going to solve the problem. Bulldozing homes isn't either. What needs to happen is that both sides need to finally realize that the current course will lead only to more death.

Agree. I think he touched on that in the story when he said, "The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support."

I think he's right. It's just politically incorrect ( ;) ) to say so in the US.

Appearently it is. again this shows ioyur own bias, coral. you assume its pc because one person sais it. maybe you didnt read the word controversial, in the article. how do ioyu think this opinion is valued, just after a sueside attack in london that killed 40+ people?

again this shows ioyur own bias, coral. you assume its pc because one person sais it. maybe you didnt read the word controversial, in the article. how do ioyu think this opinion is valued, just after a sueside attack in london that killed 40+ people?

No bias is needed. If Mayor Bloomberg said such a thing, I would be absolutely horrified.

They mayor of London pretty much said its open season on the population of London. Any rational person wouldnt want that. Im sorry, this is just PC bull**** and its only going to get more people killed.

Agree. I think he touched on that in the story when he said, "The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support."

I think he's right. It's just politically incorrect ( ;) ) to say so in the US.

He is exactly right here. The extremists on both sides require each other to put fear into the moderates.

Kiwimac

You might want to take a look at some of Mr Livingstones past statements. He has a bit of a history of holding, and speaking about, pretty strange views. He's good at running london (according to some of my friends who live there, I don't know so don't argue that with me), but he just needs to keep his mouth shut ;)

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lilnymph

again this shows ioyur own bias, coral. you assume its pc because one person sais it. maybe you didnt read the word controversial, in the article. how do ioyu think this opinion is valued, just after a sueside attack in london that killed 40+ people?

It wasn't one person on the street, you know.
And I didn't hear about some noticeable rage in England about it.

And about the attack, I suppose the english are thinking that the attack in London and Hamas attacks in Tel-Aviv are "not the same thing".

If it is not so - I would be only happy to hear about.

You might want to take a look at some of Mr Livingstones past statements. He has a bit of a history of holding, and speaking about, pretty strange views. He's good at running london (according to some of my friends who live there, I don't know so don't argue that with me), but he just needs to keep his mouth shut ;)

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lilnymph

As I said before - that is something I glad to hear from an english.

No bias is needed. If Mayor Bloomberg said such a thing, I would be absolutely horrified.

They mayor of London pretty much said its open season on the population of London. Any rational person wouldnt want that. Im sorry, this is just PC bull**** and its only going to get more people killed. explane how it is PC. what the hell is politically correct about saying that? do iyou actually think that this is the general way of looking at it in britain?

It wasn't one person on the street, you know.
And I didn't hear about some noticeable rage in England about it.

And about the attack, I suppose the english are thinking that the attack in London and Hamas attacks in Tel-Aviv are "not the same thing".

If it is not so - I would be only happy to hear about. the man is intitled to his opinion. he has a history of saying stuff like that. and no, I doubt teh british will be enraged about him saying what he thinks. which allso shows that political correctness isnt an issue, if he thinks that, he can say it.

Red Ken invited Gerry Adams to London wduring the IRA campaigns.

He speaks his mind and doesnt give a toss who is offended. Something I rather admire in a politican even if I dont agree with him.

Ken Livingstone is well known for his outragous and outspoken points of view, so much so, I doubt anyone really listens to what he has to say anymore.

I truly believe you Brits are going to bust this thing wide open and that you will find the perps and fry em', oh wait, you don't do that. In any event, your police state is the model for all police states and you shouldn't have any problem putting the bad guys away in a tolerant prison where the psychopaths will be free to exercise daily and worship their demonic God for the rest of their worthless lives.

the man is intitled to his opinion. he has a history of saying stuff like that. and no, I doubt teh british will be enraged about him saying what he thinks. which allso shows that political correctness isnt an issue, if he thinks that, he can say it.

You are the one who brought PC into the disscusion...
By saying it is not PC, what he said.

Interesting if a guy in his position can allow himself to defence everything israelis do.

You are the one who brought PC into the disscusion...
By saying it is not PC, what he said.snouter did, actually.

snouter did, actually.

You both did.

Ken Livingstone is well known for his outragous and outspoken points of view, so much so, I doubt anyone really listens to what he has to say anymore.
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even when i lived in London he was an outspoken ******* .....

You both did. I think PC has nothing to do with it.