All of a sudden, Hillary is concerned about inappropriate sexual encounters: not of the flesh in the Oval Office type - but of the virtual kind.

Her ire would have been better spent on this topic during the escaped former president's second term. It's rather pathetic that she is now worried about minors being exposed to sex when so many of them first learned of the concept of a BJ on the nightly news. Considering that this act is now considered "not sex" by many teens - and the correlated increase in teen STDs - she contributed to the problem with her silent consent of Bubbah's behavior.

Sen. Hillary Clinton pressed on Thursday for a government investigation into how simulated sex cropped up in a modified version of the blockbuster criminal adventure video game "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas."

Clinton asked the U.S. Federal Trade Commission to investigate the origins of a downloadable modification that allows simulated sex in the personal computer version of one of the most popular and controversial video games in history.

"We should all be deeply disturbed that a game which now permits the simulation of lewd sexual acts in an interactive format with highly realistic graphics has fallen into the hands of young people across the country," Clinton wrote in a letter to the head of the Federal Trade Commission.

Saying the problem of explicit video games was "spiraling out of control," Clinton also said she was introducing legislation that would crack down on the sale of violent and sex-laden games to minors.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&e=1&u=/nm/20050714/tc_nm/media_videogame_dc

nothing like good ol liberal censorship. maybe she'll get tipper gore and her ilk out in force again. :not:

nothing like good ol liberal censorship. maybe she'll get tipper gore and her ilk out in force again. :not:

yeah ... kinda like all the right wing "family" organizations that email bomb the FCC everytime something sexually suggestive is shown during prime time ? :rolleyes:

Part of Hillary's move to the center. We'd all like to believe her new positioning has something to do with her convictions, but it's probable even Hillary doesn't know that.

Anyway, if she didn't have the women's vote sewed up before, she does now. I hope the womenfolk in general have their kids' best interests at heart, and this move should play into that hand.

Hillary's going to win big in 2008, I mean it's hers to blow. But she still has to answer some tough questions about dealing with the incredible, mind-boggling mess the neocons will be leaving her.

yeah ... kinda like all the right wing "family" organizations that email bomb the FCC everytime something sexually suggestive is shown during prime time ? :rolleyes:the difference is conservatives don't claim to be "tolerant". people expect someone whose platform is family values to be judgemental.

yeah ... kinda like all the right wing "family" organizations that email bomb the FCC everytime something sexually suggestive is shown during prime time ? :rolleyes:


He's just using Hillarys idiocy to take a shot at Liberals, I'm currently addicted to this awesome game, she's a complete moron, kids are more at risk from the **** they eat, not video games which aren't even sold to them.

Remember how upset the right was over Married with Children all the years it was on? Hell, the networks can't even show Saving Private Ryan anymore out of fear of offending the right wing "family" groups, those people really want to censor everything.

Hillary had the womenfolk vote sewed up before any of this. The mere fact that she's a woman and running for president is one great step for womankind. She will be the first "woman" president in history. Go Hillary! :nice:

Part of Hillary's move to the center. We'd all like to believe her new positioning has something to do with her convictions, but it's probable even Hillary doesn't know that.

Anyway, if she didn't have the women's vote sewed up before, she does now. I hope the womenfolk in general have their kids' best interests at heart, and this move should play into that hand.

Hillary's going to win big in 2008, I mean it's hers to blow. But she still has to answer some tough questions about dealing with the incredible, mind-boggling mess the neocons will be leaving her.
Er, has she stated in so many words that she's running in 2008? Thank God Bush can't run again!

We have a wide range of opinion on Hillary.
If she IS getting her platform from cue cards written by the pollsters,who cares?

This is nothing more than a calculated move to appeal to conservatives. Hillary is an empty shell with no real convictions (aside from a lust for power), thoughts or beliefs.

This is nothing more than a calculated move to appeal to conservatives. Hillary is an empty shell with no real convictions (aside from a lust for power), thoughts or beliefs.

I agree.

and I also think she's annoying...

-michele

We have a wide range of opinion on Hillary.
If she IS getting her platform from cue cards written by the pollsters,who cares?

A string puppet couldn't do any worse than Bush & Co.

What if, say, we just left the Oval Office empty for four years? What harm would come to us? Want to try it?

A string puppet couldn't do any worse than Bush & Co.

What if, say, we just left the Oval Office empty for four years? What harm would come to us? Want to try it?

Do you really trust the business of government to the other 2 branches?

This is nothing more than a calculated move to appeal to conservatives. Hillary is an empty shell with no real convictions (aside from a lust for power), thoughts or beliefs.

Not quite correct. She is a devout Statist. After the Hillar-care debacle, she just learned to conceal it better.

Recall her recent comment about taking away from you for the common good.

They should add a mission in GTA III where you grudge **** Hillary Clinton and then execute her.

yeah ... kinda like all the right wing "family" organizations that email bomb the FCC everytime something sexually suggestive is shown during prime time ? :rolleyes:

Big difference. Hillary can write law. Pro morality groups can only petition that something to be done. She's a whole lot more dangerous.

Not quite correct. She is a devout Statist. After the Hillar-care debacle, she just learned to conceal it better.

Recall her recent comment about taking away from you for the common good.

That's the prevailing viewpoint among the elites, neocons included.

Most peasants would support that view, providing they are taking from someone else, and not vice versa. That's just human nature.

With a Hillary administration I don't see anything radical, just continuing alignment towards the global order. Tightening of the screws.

He's just using Hillarys idiocy to take a shot at Liberals, I'm currently addicted to this awesome game, she's a complete moron, kids are more at risk from the **** they eat, not video games which aren't even sold to them.

Remember how upset the right was over Married with Children all the years it was on? Hell, the networks can't even show Saving Private Ryan anymore out of fear of offending the right wing "family" groups, those people really want to censor everything.are you really such a moron that everything is left or right with you?

They should add a mission in GTA III where you grudge **** Hillary Clinton and then execute her.
:nice:

the difference is conservatives don't claim to be "tolerant". people expect someone whose platform is family values to be judgemental.
- It's not really "judgemental" to be concerned about children being exposed to explicit criminal violence in gaming form. Grand theft auto isn't really an "alternative life style" that requires tolerance.

And with all due respect, CA, you're hardly a child any more. What's appropriate for you isn't necessarily for kids.

Her ire would have been better spent on this topic during the escaped former president's second term. It's rather pathetic that she is now worried about minors being exposed to sex when so many of them first learned of the concept of a BJ on the nightly news. Considering that this act is now considered "not sex" by many teens - and the correlated increase in teen STDs - she contributed to the problem with her silent consent of Bubbah's behavior.
- Her consent wasn't "silent" - she simply supported her husband instead of making the problem worse by divorcing him while in office. People that love each other often do that instead of the latter, even when their spouses **** up.

She HARDLY "contributed" to the problem of minors being exposed to inappropriate sexuality by doing so.

- It's not really "judgemental" to be concerned about children being exposed to explicit criminal violence in gaming form. Grand theft auto isn't really an "alternative life style" that requires tolerance.
well, if that's all we were talking about, i'd agree (grudgingly), but i was mainly (and i thought you were too) talking about family values groups sticking their noses into just about every aspect of peoples life. eg janet's nipple, harry potter, etc. i believe parents should be the ones who filter what kids are exposed to, without interference of the government.

Parents often aren't even aware. And kids with absent or uninvolved parents get the stuff, and share it with their friends, flying under parental radar.

I'm wretching as I say this because I would have been the most opposed man on the planet to this as a younger person.

Now that I have children, however, that's all changed.

So what you are really saying is that we should censor all sexually explicit material because one child with parents who poorly supervise his behavior may share such material with his friends.

They're not discussing "censoring" anything, just asking for laws forbidding the sale of explicit material to minors.

Parents often aren't even aware. And kids with absent or uninvolved parents get the stuff, and share it with their friends, flying under parental radar.



^ What you said.

Big difference. Hillary can write law. Pro morality groups can only petition that something to be done. She's a whole lot more dangerous.
She can't write law all by her lonesome! Y'all act as if she is some kind of dictator with awesome scary powers! LOL!!!!

Actually a Senator may not have as much clout as a church official,a lot of people know Falwell,how many people know your congressman?

Writing new laws to prevent kids from playing video games they shouldn't will work about as well as making the drinking age 21.
Kids will want the games even more once they become strictly forbidden material.

I think it's really sad...the politicians and "family rights" groups in this country seem to want us all to live in a disney creation for the sake of the children.
Children don't magically become adults...it's a gradual process. Therefore, I don't think saying something is appropriate at 18, but not 17, really makes a lot of sense logically. Rather, it is only useful for writing bad laws.

The vast majority of laws written based upon one incident are horrid.

She can't write law all by her lonesome! Y'all act as if she is some kind of dictator with awesome scary powers! LOL!!!!

She can author legislation, and with her clout, automatically has a significant portion of the Senate behind her. No civilian has that kind of power.

Actually a Senator may not have as much clout as a church official,a lot of people know Falwell,how many people know your congressman?

Not necessarily. A lot of people may know who Falwell is, but they are not bound to obey any pronouncement he makes. Hillary, on the other hand, has the ability to write her statements into legislation, and if passed, have them become law. Falwell can never do that.

nothing like good ol liberal censorship.


are you really such a moron that everything is left or right with you?

Oh. I see.

Oh. I see.
omfg! iused the word liberal to describe hillary! you are so perceptive to bust me as a partisan hack. :rolleyes:

You used it to describe censorship.

She can author legislation, and with her clout, automatically has a significant portion of the Senate behind her. No civilian has that kind of power.
Well, neither should they! The fact is, like it or not, Hillary isn't a civilian any longer. :D

Well, neither should they! The fact is, like it or not, Hillary isn't a civilian any longer. :D

Exactly, which is why she is more dangerous than a pro-morality group.

Exactly, which is why she is more dangerous than a pro-morality group.
Dangerous? :rofl: No more dangerous than any other legislator. If she can't get backing for her ideas, then they'll founder. If she can, tough - you'll have to suck it up. That's the way the system works.

Dangerous? :rofl: No more dangerous than any other legislator. If she can't get backing for her ideas, then they'll founder. If she can, tough - you'll have to suck it up. That's the way the system works.

All legislators are more dangerous than are pro-morality groups. That's the bottom line.

I have to say that this game is the most graphically imoral, outrageously violent and most entertaining game I have ever played. Just yesterday I chopped some old ladies head off and stole her money.