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Sparrow
02-26-2005, 12:22 AM
Who makes the biggest, baddest flat-out meanest pickup you can buy? There are many contenders for the title -- and all of them pack a punch even Mike Tyson would fear. Check 'em out!

http://www.aol.com/autos/article/1.adp


Dodge, baby! :cool:

Kraw
02-26-2005, 01:26 AM
gayist list ever

they chose the GM HD's???? :barf: Was that list made by a woman magazine editor or something??

Not even a mention of the baddest truck on the road. The 05 Superdutys :drool:

http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2005/ford/superduty/intro.jpg

Sparrow
02-26-2005, 03:29 PM
Hey, don't blame this on us gals. Some of us do have better standards and tastes. ;)

Dr_EluSivE
02-27-2005, 01:39 AM
gayist list ever

they chose the GM HD's???? :barf: Was that list made by a woman magazine editor or something??

Not even a mention of the baddest truck on the road. The 05 Superdutys :drool:

http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2005/ford/superduty/intro.jpg
Agreed, there is a reason why the ford truck is the number one selling vehicle in america. Chevys are cheaply made and unreliable, and Dodges... well Need i say more?, and the import trucks just arent tough enough. Only one company can do the truck right.. and that is ford. the New superdutys are pretty nice, and the New model f-150s are the best 1/2 ton truck... hands down. that list is messed up. I do dispise ford for killing the lightning though

Dr.

92Notch
02-27-2005, 11:48 PM
Agreed, there is a reason why the ford truck is the number one selling vehicle in america. Chevys are cheaply made and unreliable, and Dodges... well Need i say more?, and the import trucks just arent tough enough. Only one company can do the truck right.. and that is ford. the New superdutys are pretty nice, and the New model f-150s are the best 1/2 ton truck... hands down. that list is messed up. I do dispise ford for killing the lightning though

Dr.


I'd still have a hard time deciding between a Ford and a GM for my next truck. Current one is a fully loaded Sierra z71 ext cab short bed .... IMO it is not cheaply made, I like it quite a bit.... how are they unreliable? what brakes on them? (mine is a 2000, it's doing just fine)

on a side note, my dad just ordered a f250 powerstroke on monday, loaded up w/ all the options (except king ranch.... he wanted ext cab and not the full four doors), should have it in 6-8 weeks. I'll drive it, maybe my opinion will change .... in 2000 I looked at all the trucks, the ford and dodge were not as nice as the GMC..... not even close. I have a feeling the new fords are nice.... the dodges are still POS's IMO.

Dr_EluSivE
02-28-2005, 12:23 PM
I'd still have a hard time deciding between a Ford and a GM for my next truck. Current one is a fully loaded Sierra z71 ext cab short bed .... IMO it is not cheaply made, I like it quite a bit.... how are they unreliable? what brakes on them? (mine is a 2000, it's doing just fine)

on a side note, my dad just ordered a f250 powerstroke on monday, loaded up w/ all the options (except king ranch.... he wanted ext cab and not the full four doors), should have it in 6-8 weeks. I'll drive it, maybe my opinion will change .... in 2000 I looked at all the trucks, the ford and dodge were not as nice as the GMC..... not even close. I have a feeling the new fords are nice.... the dodges are still POS's IMO.
GM vs ford interior is No contest. The chevys interior is trash (imo) as for their reliablity... a friend of mine has owned a repair show for about 3 years now. He repairs alot of chevys and dodges, but has yet to work on a ford truck, (other then a ranger timing belt) he says he has replaced many fuel pumps, bad brake calipers, transmissions (dodges) and it seems chevys have cooling system issues (corrosion and leaky gaskets). He actually owns a chevy truck but he is pretty sure he wont buy another. We just bought a truck last year, and looked at the big 3. The chevys just felt cheap, had less power (base models) and we not nearly as comfortable as the ford. The dodges we didnt really like at all. Horrible ride and just overall air of cheapness. The ford really was the better truck. Check out www.truthabouttrucks.com i didnt see it till after we bought ours but it is kind of interesting.

Btw we ended up with a 04 F150 XLT ext cab, 4.6L 4x2 with tow pkg, wheels, and comfort options. We like it MUCH better then the chevy it replaced.

Dr.

Betty
02-28-2005, 04:27 PM
Ibistek trucks are way more manly than anything mentioned in the article.
You can get an Explorer with a M-240G machinegun, a pickup with a M2 .50cal machinegun, or a Suburban outfitted with MK-19 40mm fully automatic grenage launcher.
:drool:

http://www.ibistek.com/secveh.asp

92Notch
03-03-2005, 10:45 PM
GM vs ford interior is No contest. The chevys interior is trash (imo) as for their reliablity... a friend of mine has owned a repair show for about 3 years now. He repairs alot of chevys and dodges, but has yet to work on a ford truck, (other then a ranger timing belt) he says he has replaced many fuel pumps, bad brake calipers, transmissions (dodges) and it seems chevys have cooling system issues (corrosion and leaky gaskets). He actually owns a chevy truck but he is pretty sure he wont buy another. We just bought a truck last year, and looked at the big 3. The chevys just felt cheap, had less power (base models) and we not nearly as comfortable as the ford. The dodges we didnt really like at all. Horrible ride and just overall air of cheapness. The ford really was the better truck. Check out www.truthabouttrucks.com i didnt see it till after we bought ours but it is kind of interesting.

Btw we ended up with a 04 F150 XLT ext cab, 4.6L 4x2 with tow pkg, wheels, and comfort options. We like it MUCH better then the chevy it replaced.

Dr.


to each their own :) like I said, I look at them all in 200 and the GM was the best IMO .... ended up with a GMC ext cab slt z71 .... 5.3 4.10 rear tow package .... actually it's got every option except rear defroster. I definitly disagree on the seats, my 10 way power (passenger too) heated leather seats are supieror to fords IMO.... have not been in a '05 ford, but my dad's leathered out eddie bauer Expidition seats suck ass.... he (a ford guy) even commets on how nice the GM seats are and admits they are more comfortable then his ford... and the ride is better, he says (now his town car is a different story...... that's got some nice seats in it) .... I'll drive his 05 Ford when it comes in, it's a lariet luxery package w/ heated leather.... maybe the 05 will be up to par. When I pay my GM off later this year I may look for another.... and again, I'll look at Ford GMC and dodge, pretty sure it'll be between the ford and GMC. (I'm not a bow-tie type of guy, and not a dodge fan :) )

The only problem w/ my GMC over the last five years has been the brakes, the truck sits alot and the rotors rusted up pretty good, had to replace them and replace the pads ..... so far that's been it. (did have an issue w/ the auto 4x4 switch, but that problem has fixed its self :) ) .... and I must say my brakes w/ the dual piston front calipers (the only truck in 2000 w/ them) kick ass w/ the new rotors and ceramic pads. I'm very pleased with the GMC. Say what you want..... but my GMC hauls ass and it hauls my camper better then I ever expected, and it's comfortable as hell..... the only reason I'd get a new one is for the bose stereo (or ford's premium w/ sub woofer) and a sun roof (which were not options in 2000 :( )

Esjay
03-05-2005, 02:07 PM
Honda Element.. It takes a man who is confident and self assured to drive an Element.
Any wimp can drive a Ram or Super Duty or Z71 or Hummer.

branded2perfection
03-13-2005, 04:53 PM
These trucks are the coolest trucks that i have ever seen. The biggest production pickup trucks available. Starting out at $84,000 and there is a 4 month wait to get one.

LIFE SIZE TONKA TRUCKS!! (http://www.f650pickups.com) http://www.f650pickups.com/4x4wow.jpg

branded2perfection
03-13-2005, 04:57 PM

Esjay
03-13-2005, 05:24 PM
I can outrun trucks like that with my four cylinder.

Betty
03-13-2005, 05:29 PM
The biggest production pickup trucks available.

2nd biggest actually. International CXT is bigger.

Kraw
03-13-2005, 09:40 PM
:drool: I want that truck

Esjay
03-14-2005, 01:45 PM
:drool: I want that truck
You might also like to have an oil refinery.

Kraw
03-14-2005, 04:06 PM
You might also like to have an oil refinery.
well, I live close to one :shrug:

how bad of MPG can it get? I'm sure it runs on diesel. I would guess 10mpg on the hiway? My TJ doesn't get much better then that when I pull a trailer

Snouter
03-20-2005, 12:29 AM
One of my brothers just got a Honda Ridgeline. Pretty cool Chevy Avalanche type of vehicle.

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2006/ridgeline/customize/base_car/BK_RTLnav_34FRONT.jpg

Esjay
03-20-2005, 08:21 AM
I really like the Ridgeline. The interior looks rugged and has a quality feel that other trucks don`t have. The double action tailgate will open and close with two fingers and everything fits. I think there will be enough Honda disciples to buy them, but for those who think they must have a V8, they will buy one of the other five. The most interesting things about the Honda are independent rear suspension and unit body construction.

Zoot
03-20-2005, 08:33 AM
I'm going to be purchasing a new vehicle this summer. My dream would be a HUMMER....but I'd have to rob a bank. The Ford F650 is probably in an equally expensive range. :(

That Honda Ridgeline is a great looking vehcle....probably more within most people's price range. I want a comfortable traveling vehicle....but need one which will haul stuff.

Esjay
03-20-2005, 09:09 AM
The Ridgeline will tow 5,000 pounds. I`m not sure about what it will haul in the bed, but weightwise, it`s probably not too bad. Most people seem to overestimate what they need in a tow vehicle. I see guys towing 3 or 4 thousand pounds of lawn equipment with F250`s and C2500s all the time. Most 1/2 ton pickups can do that with ease.

Zoot
03-20-2005, 09:27 AM
I'm a female. All I want in one to haul home my garage sales and flea makets purchases. I'm not in the market for any heavy farm equipment hauling.....LOL!

Corporate Avenger
03-20-2005, 10:29 AM
One of my brothers just got a Honda Ridgeline. Pretty cool Chevy Avalanche type of vehicle.

http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2006/ridgeline/customize/base_car/BK_RTLnav_34FRONT.jpg


That thing is the new Aztec, with the square wheewells and that vomit inducing sloping bed, leave it to Honda to put another eye sore on the road.

Besides, it's a unibody! There's a reason trucks are built on full frames, police departments still use full frame vehicles because the unibody cars just can't withstand the abuse they put on them.

The thing is built on their minivan platform (Odyssey), you don't build a truck off of a unibody minivan chassis. Ths shows that Honda is either A: not serious about entering the pick-up truck market, or B: Totally clueless.

The engine in this thing is TRANSVERSLY mounted, it's basically a FWD that sends power to the rear wheels when the computer detects front wheel slippage. I'll take a 06 3V 4.6L 6-speed RWD Sport Trac that's on a full frame anyday over this minivan with a bed.

Corporate Avenger
03-20-2005, 10:36 AM
http://www.aol.com/autos/article/1.adp


Dodge, baby! :cool:


What a joke, most of those are junk, and the best selling, best engineered trucks aren't even mentioned?

Looks like they had some entertainment writer do an article on trucks, which this person obviously knows nothing about.

The Dodge's are crap, everybody I know that has had a Ram has had it in the service center getting fixed more than they've driven it.

Corporate Avenger
03-20-2005, 10:51 AM
gayist list ever

they chose the GM HD's???? :barf: Was that list made by a woman magazine editor or something??

Not even a mention of the baddest truck on the road. The 05 Superdutys :drool:

http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2005/ford/superduty/intro.jpg


The Super Duty is hands down the best truck out there, that's why you see mostly Super Duty's on construction sites, as ambulances, as fire trucks, etc.

Even the 04 Super Duty murdered the Dodge and the Chevy trucks in comparison tests, and for 05 it's been vastly improved, the competition is simply sucking wind.


Agreed, there is a reason why the ford truck is the number one selling vehicle in america. Chevys are cheaply made and unreliable, and Dodges... well Need i say more?, and the import trucks just arent tough enough. Only one company can do the truck right.. and that is ford. the New superdutys are pretty nice, and the New model f-150s are the best 1/2 ton truck... hands down. that list is messed up. I do dispise ford for killing the lightning though

Dr.


Yup, people just buy into dumb articles like this without actually researching who makes the best truck and why.


GM vs ford interior is No contest. The chevys interior is trash (imo)


That's not just your opinion, it's fact, anybody can see by sitting in the two, hell, the F-150 has a better interior than most cars, it outclasses other trucks by leaps and bounds. And I've spent considerable time in both, there is simply no comparison, the GM interiors are loaded with the typical cheap, ugly, hard GM plastic. While the Ford looks like something lifted out of a 50,000 dollar luxury car, not to mention the ergonomics in the Ford are the best hands down.



as for their reliablity... a friend of mine has owned a repair show for about 3 years now. He repairs alot of chevys and dodges, but has yet to work on a ford truck, (other then a ranger timing belt) he says he has replaced many fuel pumps, bad brake calipers, transmissions (dodges) and it seems chevys have cooling system issues (corrosion and leaky gaskets).


The Dodge's are the worst as far as reliabilty goes, my Grandpa bought a new Ram a few years back, and he maintains his cars extremely well, and drives like well, a grandpa. By 100,000 miles (mostly highway), 3 fuel pumps, 3 transmissions, all sorts of eletrical problems, cooling system problems, and many others I can't even remember right now.


He actually owns a chevy truck but he is pretty sure he wont buy another. We just bought a truck last year, and looked at the big 3. The chevys just felt cheap, had less power (base models) and we not nearly as comfortable as the ford. The dodges we didnt really like at all. Horrible ride and just overall air of cheapness. The ford really was the better truck. Check out www.truthabouttrucks.com i didnt see it till after we bought ours but it is kind of interesting.


Beat me to it, I was going to post that :) See what happens when you get under the skin? The truth does come out, there's good reasons why Ford has the best selling PU for the last 27ish years..


Btw we ended up with a 04 F150 XLT ext cab, 4.6L 4x2 with tow pkg, wheels, and comfort options. We like it MUCH better then the chevy it replaced.

Dr.

I love the FX4's for the interior, looks the a fighter jet cockpit or something, if I could afford that would be the one I'd buy..

Esjay
03-20-2005, 11:10 AM
That thing is the new Aztec, with the square wheewells and that vomit inducing sloping bed, leave it to Honda to put another eye sore on the road.

Besides, it's a unibody! There's a reason trucks are built on full frames, police departments still use full frame vehicles because the unibody cars just can't withstand the abuse they put on them.

The thing is built on their minivan platform (Odyssey), you don't build a truck off of a unibody minivan chassis. Ths shows that Honda is either A: not serious about entering the pick-up truck market, or B: Totally clueless.

The engine in this thing is TRANSVERSLY mounted, it's basically a FWD that sends power to the rear wheels when the computer detects front wheel slippage. I'll take a 06 3V 4.6L 6-speed RWD Sport Trac that's on a full frame anyday over this minivan with a bed.

Do some research. The Ridgeline isn`t based on the Odyssey.

Snouter
03-20-2005, 11:17 AM
... I'll take a 06 3V 4.6L 6-speed RWD Sport Trac that's on a full frame anyday over this minivan with a bed.

Well now we know you have a knee jerk hatred for Honda as well as Toyota. :p But you can't be serious. The Honda blows that Ford POS away.

Here are the basic features of the Honda Ridgeline and keep in mind the Ridgeline rides like a car.



STANDARD TOWING FEATURES:

• Pre-wired for 4- and 7-pin connectors
• Pre-wired for trailer brake controller
• Heavy-duty radiator with dual 160-watt fans
• Heavy-duty power steering fluid cooler
• Heavy-duty ATF cooler
• Huge front and rear brake rotors
• Closed-box frame with unit-body construction
• 5,000-lb. towing capacity

The Ridgeline takes towing seriously. To start with, it has a 5-speed automatic transmission that's specially geared for this purpose. There's also a standard high capacity radiator with dual 160-watt fans, a heavy-duty power steering cooler, a high-capacity ATF cooler, and it's pre-wired for a trailer connection (4-/7-Pin). Large brake rotors at all four wheels and Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) ensure quick and deliberate stops when it matters most.

A 3.5-liter, VTEC V-6 engine gives the Ridgeline optimum power and efficiency. This results in 255-hp and 252 lb.-ft. torque. The VTEC engine combined with an innovative two-stage intake manifold and a special fresh-air intake system provide power when you need it, with high-end horsepower and low-end torque even during extreme towing conditions. The fresh-air intake draws air from the top of the front grill to protect against dust and water intrusion during launches. You'll power your boat up even the steepest ramp in no time. The VTM-4® system operates automatically. But when you need to start off in extreme low-traction conditions, such as when stopped in mud, on ice or in loose gravel, the thoughtful VTM-4® Lock feature lets you manually lock the rear differential to help get you moving. And it can stay manually locked up to 18 mph.

The 5-speed automatic transmission was built with heavy-duty truck use in mind. Clutches, shafts, gear ratios and bearings have all been upgraded for towing and hauling. Transmission shift points have been programmed to take full advantage of engine torque, and shift times are quicker for more positive shifts. A high-capacity automatic transmission cooler helps ensure greater durability when towing in hot conditions.

Torsional rigidity refers to how much a truck's frame twists under the stress of towing, hauling or off-road driving. The integrated closed-box frame design of the Ridgeline gives it a tremendous amount of torsional rigidity. In fact, it has many times the amount of torsional rigidity of industry-leading trucks to pull with confidence-inspiring ability. The integrated closed-box frame with unit-body construction is quieter and safer than the conventional body-on-frame design. Not only does this greatly minimize the buzz, squeak and rattle generally associated with body-on-frame trucks, but it also greatly enhances the Ridgeline's ride and handling, especially when fully loaded. The two integrated, fully boxed and reinforced frame rails and seven fully boxed cross members give it added strength.

Most pickup trucks have beds made out of stamped steel. This results in damage over the course of the truck bed's life. The bed in the Ridgeline has a Steel-Reinforced Composite (SRC) material that's both lighter and stronger than steel. Don't be afraid to load a heavy pallet of rocks or firewood into the back of this truck. It's resistant to dents and gouges. Steel cross members underneath the bed maintain integrity to combat the stress of heavy loads. Unlike other trucks with live-axle suspensions, each of the wheels operates independently of the others and also has a lower unsprung weight. As a result, the Ridgeline operates with superior off-road handling, a composed ride and unmatched stability.

The (SRC) Cargo Bed provides unmatched flexibility, capability and durability. Its 5-foot length approaches that of other full-size crew-cab truck beds, and its 49 1/2-inch width between wheelwells is wider than other trucks in its class. Because the wheel arches barely intrude into the bed, a large ATV, two motorcycles or a thick stack of 4-foot sheets of plywood can easily fit. Cargo lights and heavy-duty tie-down cleats make loading simple.

The unique dual-action tailgate combines the strength of a conventional truck tailgate with unparalleled flexibility and user-friendliness. It can be swung open like a door, allowing easy access to the bed contents or it can be lowered, like a conventional tailgate. The 300-pound dynamic-load capacity can safely support the weight of large loads such as motorcycles and ATVs.

Corporate Avenger
03-20-2005, 11:22 AM
Do some research. The Ridgeline isn`t based on the Odyssey.


LOL, why don't you since again you don't know what you're talking about, the Ridgeline is built off the same chassis as the Odyssey, I do happen to know what I'm talking about buddy..


In preparation for this important launch, the company cut its teeth with its previous truck-like models, such as the Acura MDX and Honda Pilot cross/utility vehicles and Odyssey minivan.

The Ridgeline shares its basic architecture with those vehicles, although Honda says its engineers poured so much work into the pickup that its chassis is 93% unique.


http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_compact_ridgeline_fullsize/


The Odyssey was around long before the Pilot or the MDX, and Honda has tried to play it off like it's a new purpose built chassis, LOL, just take one look underneath one and you see the same hardware as you do on the Pilot, MDX, and the Odyssey.

Corporate Avenger
03-20-2005, 11:37 AM
Well now we know you have a knee jerk hatred for Honda as well as Toyota. :p But you can't be serious. The Honda blows that Ford POS away.


Hehe.. A FWD unibody? The new for 06 Sport Trac is on a fully boxed frame, has a 292 horsepower 3V V8 out of the Mustang, a six-speed automatic, and looks light years better than the Avalanche like Ridgeline.. :D


Here are the basic features of the Honda Ridgeline and keep in mind the Ridgeline rides like a car.


Well it should ride like a car, after all, it's built on a car-like unibody chassis.

But if you want a truck, you want something that can take the abuse of towing, hauling, off-roading, etc. and there's a very good reason the bed is separate from the cab on pick-up trucks, I'm sure many Honda owners will find out why that is after they have some miles on the things and try to go off roading or put a ton of bricks in the bed ;)

They could have at the very least not made the thing look so ugly, and given it more power.

But anyways, this is way off-topic, this is about the toughest trucks, not girly man unibody cars with beds.. :D

Esjay
03-22-2005, 10:24 AM
You are right about the Ridgeline`s roots. I guess I juat assumed the motor was longitudinal. But you know what? The Pilot and Odyssey are rated tops in the respective classes and I would be surprised if the Ridgeline did not perform as it was intended. 5,000 pounds is not too shabby a tow rating for most of us. I`m sure Honda didn`t have in mind anyone towing a four horse trailer in the Rockies with it, but the Ridgeline has some great applications for the average American. Did you ever notice how many pickups don`t even have a hitchball or have never had a drawbar in the receiver? I used to tow a 5,000 boat with my Toyota, but have downsized to a JetSki and a 2,000 pound boat. I probably seldom carry more than 1,000 pounds in the bed; but I use my truck for carrying stuff more than most individuals I know. I think time will show there is a market for this truck. Honda has usually done a superb job of assessing the demand for its vehicles before they hit the market. The Ridgelines I looked at showed usual Honda quality and fit and finish, and I doubt the driveline will be anything but Honda smooth. I`ll probably never wear my Toyota T-100 out, but if it were to get wrecked or haildamaged, etc., I probably fit Honda`s demographics for a Ridgeline buyer pretty well. I don`t need, nor do I wish to feed $2+/gal. gas to an F-250 Crew Cab.

I don't know
03-22-2005, 12:07 PM
Ah, well. A quick google search found the manliest car ever:

NSFW? (http://www.geometer.org/bman2003web/pages/peniscar.html)

Esjay
03-22-2005, 06:03 PM
People assume that because the Ridgeline has the same driveline as the Pilot and MDX, that it is built on the same platform. It does have the driveline (the transmission is beefed up for towing) and some suspension bits from the Pilot and MDX platform, but it has a unique "boxed ladder frame with unibody" (Honda's name for it) construction which the driveline and suspension are attatched to. Instead of a traditional unibody floorpan, it has a ladder frame as the bottom structural element of the unibody. The floor pan is then welded in above the ladder frame. You can see what I'm talking about in this diagram. That is why its towing and payload capacities are more in line with a typical midsized pickup truck like a Toyota Tacoma or Nissan Frontier than a purely unibody SUV like a Pilot or MDX.

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