View Full Version : Jewish Nazis on the rise in Israel
Criminal 01-17-2005, 06:05 AM http://www.nydailynews.com/06-24-2003/news/wn_report/story/95086p-86206c.html
Jewish Nazis raise heil in Israel
By CORKY SIEMASZKO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Hamas, Islamic Jihad - and now Jewish Nazis.
As if they didn't have enough trouble with Palestinian militants, Israelis now have to contend with threats from a homegrown neo-Nazi group called Israeli White Unity.
And they don't just hate Arabs - they hate their fellow Jews as well.
Worse, they've infiltrated the Israeli Army and operate a Russian-language Web site on which they deny the Holocaust, make concentration camp jokes - and maintain links to other neo-Nazi groups elsewhere.
"It's not a big group, but unfortunately it's there," said Mark Weitzman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Task Force Against Hate.
Israeli officials have launched an investigation into the group, whose members are recent immigrants from Russia.
"They immigrated as Jews, but you have to understand the question of who is a Jew is not as clear-cut as in the U.S.," Weitzman said. "You have people who claimed Jewish ancestry to get out of Russia but who aren't all that Jewish."
Last night, the group's Web site, which is routed through a server in Holland, was shut down. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz published photos of White Unity members wearing Israeli Army uniforms and giving Nazi salutes.
Originally published on June 24, 2003
Sinclair 01-17-2005, 10:48 AM The question: Are those involved *really* Jews? Eg, were their mothers Jewish, their mothers' mothers Jewish, and so on?
coral100cor 01-17-2005, 02:44 PM Are those involved *really* Jews?
Don't think so.
Dreamscapist 01-17-2005, 04:26 PM Don't they share offices with the Black Ku Klux Klan?
Criminal 01-17-2005, 09:40 PM The question: Are those involved *really* Jews? Eg, were their mothers Jewish, their mothers' mothers Jewish, and so on?
The article says they are Israelis of Russian origin and goes on to says they may have faked jewish ancestory to get out of Russia. I think some might be Jewish as well but may have an ignorance of history. I do not know what the Russians taught children about Holicaust but I did hear that in East Germany, many young Germans knew nothing about it.
it was oonly a matter of time. anything to piss off your parents.....
coral100cor 01-18-2005, 12:09 PM I believe they are anti-semitic russians. And what anti-semitic russians are doing in Israel - that's another question.
Truth Teller 01-22-2005, 05:02 PM anything to piss off your parents.....
Which is my theory about what motivates neocons.
Two Way Radio 01-25-2005, 06:15 PM This reminds me of the movie "The Believer", which was an incredible movie. It's about a Jewish youth in the U.S. who becomes a leader in the Neo-Nazi movement.
Criminal 01-25-2005, 07:51 PM This reminds me of the movie "The Believer", which was an incredible movie. It's about a Jewish youth in the U.S. who becomes a leader in the Neo-Nazi movement.
A good many Nazis had jewish roots. Hitler may have been decended from the Rothchild family, where his grandmother worked as a chambermaid.
Mengele, the Auchowicz camp doctor was thought to have been jewish, so was Hans Frank, Alfred Rosenberg, Rudolph Heydrich, Josef Goebels, Martin Boreman and so on.
Back in the 70s there was a Nazi leader in Chicago named Frank Colin who tried to get a parade permit to march in the Jewish suburb of Skokie. He launched a long legal battle and finally won but decided not to march. He was also jewish. In fact his dad was a concentration camp victim.
Very odd how many self hating jews there are in this world.
Truth Teller 01-27-2005, 02:27 PM This reminds me of the movie "The Believer", which was an incredible movie. It's about a Jewish youth in the U.S. who becomes a leader in the Neo-Nazi movement.
And it was based on a true story of a man who was born and raised an Orthodox Jew who became the head of the KKK in New York.
I spoke to one of these Nazis in an internet chatroom. He said there is a community of Russians in Tel Aviv who came there to work. He said that the Israeli Jewish children harrass the non-Jewish children, Gentiles, in school, out of hatred. That is why a bunch of the Russians formed a group as Nazis. Yes, they are underground, and it's true.
Likewise, some scholars believe that Germans learned folk racism from the Jews that had been an unchanging ethnic group within the German nation for centuries and centuries, and were able to keep their identity only because their religion is largely based on racial laws.
The Laws Against Non-Jews
From: "Jewish History, Jewish Religion:
The Weight of Three Thousand Years"
by Professor Israel Shahak
http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/books/jewhis/jewhis5.htm
A good many Nazis had jewish roots. Hitler may have been decended from the Rothchild family, where his grandmother worked as a chambermaid.
Nope, just fantasy. Here is Hitler's ancestry:
http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa070197.htm
and the straight dope(was Hitler Jewish?):
Here's what we know: Hitler's paternal grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, gave birth to Alois, Hitler's father, in 1837. She was 42 and unmarried at the time and apparently never revealed the father's identity. Five years later she married Johann Georg Hiedler or Hitler (spelling was a bit casual in those days). But Alois kept the surname Schicklgruber until he was 39 years old.
In 1876 a new baptismal certificate was issued declaring that Alois's stepfather J.G. Hiedler was in fact his real father. By this time both Maria and J.G. were dead. Why the name change so late in the day nobody really knows, but there is speculation that Alois did it so he could come into an inheritance. At any rate, few researchers today believe J.G. was really Alois's father.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html
Mengele, the Auchowicz camp doctor was thought to have been jewish, so was Hans Frank, Alfred Rosenberg, Rudolph Heydrich, Josef Goebels, Martin Boreman and so on.
Thought by whom? Alfred Rosenerg because of his last name? Josef Goebels and Martin Boreman were definitely not Jewish. It would be very well known if they were, and I haven't heard that before. And who is Rudolph Heydrich? You either mean Rudolph Hess, who was half Greek, or Reinhard Heydrich whom of which the only proof comes from his appearance. There were some high ranking Nazis with some Jewish blood like Helmut Wilberg and Erhard Milch, and alot of soldiers:
Hitler's Jewish Soldiers
The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righitpix.html
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