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Criminal
04-16-2002, 11:43 PM
Defined as the the exchange of money or valuable material for sexual activity, prostitution has existed since times before recorded history. Among primates it has been observed that females will often present themselves to males for sex to purvey food or for protection. It seems likely that the exchange of food for coitus began in the transitional period between man and ape and with the subsequent developement of more elaborate rules of social behavior, the sexual restrictions of marriage and the concept of parenthood, prostitution was eventually defined in some form and set apart as an entity to be accepted or condemned.

Prostitution has not, been culturally universal. In sexually permissive societies, such as certain south Pacific Island groups, it has been absent because it is unnecessary. In others it has been repressed. Complete suppression seems difficult in urban centers where anonymity is easily acheived.

Historically Prostitution has been the resort of disadvantaged femails, slaves, captives, divorcees, widows, outcasts and the unmarriagable. In most cases these were females without husbands.

Many societies encouraged prostitution as a condition of economics or relition. In some societies girls earned their doweries through prostitution. This was common in some New World societies, as well as in Lydia, Cyprus and other Mediterranean societies.

Religions have incorporated prostitution in the rites of priestesses. This was common in certain classes of society, such as the Myletta rite of ancient Babylon, where females would wait at the temple of the godess Ishtar and accept coitus for pay from clients. Similar rites occured among Canaanites as well as India and West Africa.

As societies developed, in Greece, Rome and Isreal prostitutes were restricted to certain districts. It should also be noted that as the Roman legions moved so did the prostitutes. In garrison towns, brothels were built to service the Roman soldiers. In addition to accepting coitus from soldiers, prostitutes also worked as waitresses, cooks, laundresses and nurses. Often prostitutes married soldiers and started families.

Similar developements occured throughout the civilized world. In China, for example The Tang dynasty found prostitutes required to operate in certain areas. Later during the Sung dynasty in 960 Cafes employing prostitutes proliferated.

As societys developed there also emerged a heirarchy of prostitutes. In many societies, such as ancient Greece, or in the Byzentine Empire or in Japan, there emerged a class or Cortisans who were accorded conciderable respect. It sould be remembered that Theodora, the wife of the great Byzentine Emporer Justinian was originally a cortisan.

In modern western societies, prostitution continued to be a refuge for disenfranchised or inpoverished women. During the settlement of the american frontier, prostitutes found a hungry market for their services. As everywhere else a hierarchy emerged with the high class ladies working in "Gentlemen's clubs" where they commanded a high price. With a very high ratio of men to women its easy to see why this existed.

As everywhere else, the women lured into this way of life did so for a number of reasons. Many of them were widows. In the rugged frontier prostitution was one of the few occupations available to them.

Kraw
04-17-2002, 04:05 PM
as old a profesion it is, it simply amazes me that they are outlawing it.

I mean really, what is wrong with it? I have and will never pay for it (Happily married) but I don't see anything wrong with others doing it. Yes, it is a sin, but all premarital sex is a sin (according to the Bible) Doesn't keep people from doing it.

Cynic
04-19-2002, 10:22 AM
KRaw -- In a way you're right. But remember that a large portion of prostitutes are forced, by others or by circumstances, into something they hate. If it were possible to limit it to those who actually want to be porstitutes.

Manu
04-19-2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Cynic
KRaw -- In a way you're right. But remember that a large portion of prostitutes are forced, by others or by circumstances, into something they hate. If it were possible to limit it to those who actually want to be porstitutes.

But the fact is THAT coersion should be illegal.

It is like us having a 'war on drugs' because some people cannot use them responsibly and because they are 'bad' for us.

I have often joked that 'dating is legal prostitution.' I mean this purely in jest, but it lends itself to the basis of the article, which begins as prostitution came out as an exchange.

And what you analyze dating...

Guy buys dinner, and entertainment, desires/hopes/expects compensation in terms of sexual gratification, it kind of makes sense. The complicating factors are the emotions we developed, and that is in all honesty, what separates us from our distant ancestors...

Cynic
04-19-2002, 02:19 PM
exactly manu. coercion should be illegal. Prostitution and use of prostitution are immoral, but they should not be illegal.

Criminal
04-19-2002, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Cynic
KRaw -- In a way you're right. But remember that a large portion of prostitutes are forced, by others or by circumstances, into something they hate. If it were possible to limit it to those who actually want to be porstitutes.
My Ex wife who is no angel herself knew several women who were hookers in Europe. These women were not "exploited". Many of them hussled because it was the easiest way to make a lot of cash. A hooker could make 10 times more cash than any other working person.

Cynic
04-20-2002, 07:53 AM
well, I think Crim, that the majotity of prostitutes would prefer not to be.

Manu
04-20-2002, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Cynic
well, I think Crim, that the majotity of prostitutes would prefer not to be.

I am not sure the basis for that...

I think better read would be 'the majority of prostitutes would rather have a job that PAYS the same but isn't selling ones body.'

Thats the key...the money. It isn't hard to get a job working fastfood. It is damn hard to get said job and to be able to pull oneself from being destitue on that salary...

Hookers, I feel, make a choice...hard hard work for little money, or quick/easy money.

Payout is worth more than the social/health/mental cost..

jwreck
04-20-2002, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Cynic
KRaw -- In a way you're right. But remember that a large portion of prostitutes are forced, by others or by circumstances, into something they hate. If it were possible to limit it to those who actually want to be porstitutes. Um, just for grins, take the word prostitute out and put electricians in, or construction workers, or lawn maintenence. How many people are forced into a job they hate?? The fact is its still two consenting adults and the law should not get involved in what two consenting adults do for each other.

Criminal
04-20-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Manu


I am not sure the basis for that...

I think better read would be 'the majority of prostitutes would rather have a job that PAYS the same but isn't selling ones body.'

Thats the key...the money. It isn't hard to get a job working fastfood. It is damn hard to get said job and to be able to pull oneself from being destitue on that salary...

Hookers, I feel, make a choice...hard hard work for little money, or quick/easy money.

Payout is worth more than the social/health/mental cost..
Exactly. Getting paid to have sex is a lot easier than cleaning houses or waitressing. Only in impoverished third world nations are women really forced into the business.

Klassy_Kat
04-20-2002, 05:53 PM
people always say 'how can you sell your body' but how is it different from a professional athelete? Suddenly you're selling your skills, but not your body? Tons of people use their body more than their mind at work.

DngrMse
04-22-2002, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Criminal

Exactly. Getting paid to have sex is a lot easier than cleaning houses or waitressing. Only in impoverished third world nations are women really forced into the business.

Not to mention that it does'nt take eight years of college, plus another 15 years work experience to excel as a prostitute. There can be quite a lot of money involved, and for those who pursue it, the payoffs come immediately, not after 20+ years.

suncrush3r
04-27-2002, 08:40 AM
Historically Prostitution has been the resort of disadvantaged femails, slaves, captives, divorcees, widows, outcasts and the unmarriagable. In most cases these were females without husbands.


only in the west...you forgot to mention China and Japan, where certain types were members of high society and respect.

I see nothing wrong with it. It was the "christian" religion which turned into something bad. thanx to certain type of people we have learned to be afraid of the human body. it's a shame really

DngrMse
05-02-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by suncrush3r
I see nothing wrong with it. It was the "christian" religion which turned into something bad. thanx to certain type of people we have learned to be afraid of the human body. it's a shame really

Christian religion bashing again? There seems to be an awful lot of that on DA. Check out what muslims do to prostitutes, then get back to me.

jillianjiggs
05-02-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Criminal

Exactly. Getting paid to have sex is a lot easier than cleaning houses or waitressing. Only in impoverished third world nations are women really forced into the business.

Easy physically, must for mentally it does a number on them. It's a very dangerous profession. I say we do it like Nevada does. Licensed prostitution that is regulated to keep it safe.

CodyChaos
05-02-2002, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by jillianjiggs


Easy physically, must for mentally it does a number on them. It's a very dangerous profession. I say we do it like Nevada does. Licensed prostitution that is regulated to keep it safe.

Yeah, as with drugs, regulation as opposed to prohibition would make it alot safer and eliminate the criminal element.

I have heard that an outrageously high proportion of prostitutes were victims of molestation/sexual assault as childern. Thus alot of times prostitutes get a skewed version of sexuality imparted upon them when they were developing emotionally and mentally as kids. Of course one might argue that the prevailing attitudes toward sex in this country arent entirely healthy either. I mean the hookers in Amsterdamn or Pahrump County, Nevada are one thing. These people are sex professionals. The prostitutes down on Hollywood or Santa Monica Blvd. generally have much poorer circumstances...

"The story is always the same we can impose morality
and blame and shame
We can criminalize the side effects
of a life time of torture
We can moralize and look at things so biblicaly
We can look at things so legally
and think we're preserving order
We can swim in denial and think that some how jail
can heal a traumatic disorder"

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