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Criminal
12-12-2004, 09:33 PM
http://s92518733.onlinehome.us/student/sunyatsen.doc

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Sun Yat-sen was born in a peasant family and went to live with his older brother in Hawaii when he was 13. He went to school there, and then studied to be a doctor in Hong Kong. While in Hong Kong, he began to criticize the Chinese imperial government.
Sun organized a political society in 1894, and tried to overthrow the government the next year. This attempt was a failure. For the next 16 years he lived as a revolutionary outside China, raising funds and promoting reform in Canada, Japan, and the United States. One of his lecture tours, in 1911, raised 70,000 dollars from Chinese in Victoria, Montreal, and Toronto. Chinese government agents kidnapped him in London in 1896, but he escaped and became famous by writing a book about his experiences.
On October 10, 1911, there was a military revolt in the city of Wuchang. Sun learned of the revolt from the newspapers while raising money in the United States. He returned at once to China. On December 29, because he was a well-known revolutionary with a plan for the new government, he was elected first President of the Republic of China.
President Sun’s position was very weak at first. He did not control all the rebels against the imperial government. He was not even fully in control of his own army. Sun decided to join with the northern China army commander Yuan Shikai. Yuan became president and overthrew the emperor, but then tried to make himself dictator. Sun led an unsuccessful revolt against Yuan in 1913, and then spent 1913 to 1917 in exile in Japan.
In 1917 Sun returned to China, and in 1921 he was elected President of another government in South China. He had learned from experience that a government needed an army to survive. He thus established a military school, commanded by Jiang Jieshi (Chiang Kai-shek). He also organized an alliance (a United Front) between his own party, the Guomindang (Kuomintang; “National People’s Party” or Nationalists), and the Communists. His own political theory, the Three Principles of the People (nationalism, democracy, and popular welfare), was socialist in its broad outlines.
Sun did not live to see the success of his new army. In 1925, he died of liver cancer in Beijing at the age of 59. He was so respected that all later Chinese governments claimed to continue his work. In 1927, the Nationalist and the Communists began to fight, and in 1949 the Communists established the People’s Republic of China, while the Nationalists retreated to continue the Republic of China on Taiwan. However, both have always said they are the only true followers of Sun Yat-sen.
Because he was a pioneer in setting up the Chinese Republic, and because he died before his Guomindang and the Chinese Communist Party split up and began to fight, both the Communists and the Nationalists honor him as Father of the Country. His picture is displayed in Tiananmen Square on May Day, and is still found in many official locations in Taiwan, as well as on Taiwan bank notes.
Sun Yat-sen’s widow, Song Jingling (Soong Ching-ling), sided with the Communists during the Chinese Civil War and rose to the position of Honorary President of the People’s Republic of China. She died in 1981.
What difference did Sun Yat-sen make to history? Revolutions are never created by a single person, but the Chinese Revolution would certainly have been different without Sun. He unified a large number of disunited rebel groups and organizations, although at first he was not very good at army building. He was a tireless fundraiser, who never forgot that even a revolution can go nowhere without resources. He was also the first to suggest China should be a republic rather than a monarchy, and he advocated it take a socialist rather than a capitalist approach. Finally, he succeeded in creating an effective army for the new Chinese Republic, though he died before it was finished.
In short, if Sun Yat-sen had not lived, it is likely that the Chinese Empire would have died much more slowly and painfully. China’s modernization and unification have been long processes, but without Sun’s contribution, they might have been even longer and even more difficult.

Dacar92
12-14-2004, 09:59 AM
Thanks for the info. I had heard this before, as I am somewhat of a Chinese history buff. Also, I am in Taiwan and China right now for business and so it is timely. The problem about Chinese history is that there is so much of it that there is so much to learn. A culture which is 4000 years old or more is difficult to get your arms around and understand. I am staying in Shanghai and Suzhou this time. But this is my first trip to China, having been to Taiwan many times.

The Taiwan story (Chiang Kai-shek and the National Treasure) intrigues me but many Chinese do not want to talk about it. Especially the Taiwanese. They keep telling me that he did not steal the national treasures but just that he "borrrowed" it. I have a day off on Thursday and can't wait to see the old city here in Shanghai.

Criminal
12-14-2004, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the info. I had heard this before, as I am somewhat of a Chinese history buff. Also, I am in Taiwan and China right now for business and so it is timely. The problem about Chinese history is that there is so much of it that there is so much to learn. A culture which is 4000 years old or more is difficult to get your arms around and understand. I am staying in Shanghai and Suzhou this time. But this is my first trip to China, having been to Taiwan many times.

The Taiwan story (Chiang Kai-shek and the National Treasure) intrigues me but many Chinese do not want to talk about it. Especially the Taiwanese. They keep telling me that he did not steal the national treasures but just that he "borrrowed" it. I have a day off on Thursday and can't wait to see the old city here in Shanghai.
I really wonder if China would be a different place would Sun have lived longer and could have fulfilled his goals to bring Democracy to China. I do know that a major reason for the failure of the Chinese Republic had to do with Chiang Kai-shek.

Judy
12-30-2004, 12:08 AM
I'm living in Wuchang. . . .
http://027w.com/travel/travel_files/wcqyjz1.jpg

Criminal
12-30-2004, 12:23 AM
I'm living in Wuchang. . . .
http://027w.com/travel/travel_files/wcqyjz1.jpg
Awsome.

My sister visited China last year. She was amazed by the place. Some day before I die I plan on going there. I guess its a bit too expensive.

Judy
12-30-2004, 09:53 PM
I guess its a bit too expensive.You could work as an English teacher, and then travel all over in this country. The key is that you should know some virtuous and sharp-sighted Chinese ppl; they would tell you how to travel cheaply in this country, for example, me. :) My another suggestion is don't go to Beijing because everything is rising there.:not: :D I dislike those people living in Beijing. . . .

Criminal
12-31-2004, 12:26 AM
You could work as an English teacher, and then travel all over in this country. The key is that you should know some virtuous and sharp-sighted Chinese ppl; they would tell you how to travel cheaply in this country, for example, me. :) My another suggestion is don't go to Beijing because everything is rising there.:not: :D I dislike those people living in Beijing. . . .
I was told by my sister that there are lots of young people who want to know English. They really like to talk to foreigners.

If you don't mind me asking, how is it that you found Discuss Anything?

Judy
12-31-2004, 02:27 AM
If you don't mind me asking, how is it that you found Discuss Anything?It’s very simple. The steps that I find out this website as follows:

Step 1: thought producing

A famous Chinese forum website named ytht.net was closed by government in August. About 5 years ago, several students of Peking University founded this Internet forum. It got all college students’ mind quickly, since we could come out with anything freely on ytht, from sex to the national leaders. After it had been closed, I felt oppression. You know, I am a little introverted and I’d like to stick in memory. It’s very easy to feel oppression for me. It’s my shortcoming. So I started to look for a website where nobody knew me and I could say anything in my mind no worrying somebody would hurt me.

Step 2: depending on google

At the beginning, the key character that I typed was ‘forum’. But I didn’t find an ideal website. Then I selected ‘discuss’ as my key character to search. I found discussanything.com quickly. Because like the name, discuss anything, I registered the nick of Judy here without a bit hesitation.

Step 3: beginning my living on discussanything.com

>_<

Happy New Year, Criminal. :D

Criminal
12-31-2004, 03:36 AM
It’s very simple. The steps that I find out this website as follows:

Step 1: thought producing

A famous Chinese forum website named ytht.net was closed by government in August. About 5 years ago, several students of Peking University founded this Internet forum. It got all college students’ mind quickly, since we could come out with anything freely on ytht, from sex to the national leaders. After it had been closed, I felt oppression. You know, I am a little introverted and I’d like to stick in memory. It’s very easy to feel oppression for me. It’s my shortcoming. So I started to look for a website where nobody knew me and I could say anything in my mind no worrying somebody would hurt me.

Step 2: depending on google

At the beginning, the key character that I typed was ‘forum’. But I didn’t find an ideal website. Then I selected ‘discuss’ as my key character to search. I found discussanything.com quickly. Because like the name, discuss anything, I registered the nick of Judy here without a bit hesitation.

Step 3: beginning my living on discussanything.com

>_<

Happy New Year, Criminal. :D
Happy New Year to you too.

I'm glad you came here. Really I am. Its always exciting to find people from far off places surfing in.

Maybe some day you can show me China.

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