This article will probibly make a few people here angry. But I did find it interesting.

http://www.bluecorncomics.com/hitler.htm

the beginning....
If the Europeans' favorable geography and natural resources predisposed them to "go forth and multiply," so did their Judeo-Christian philosophy. Christ's word spread throughout the Roman Empire and beyond because it complemented European culture. The justification for every princely or papal conquest lay in Biblical passages such as:


When the Lord your God brings you into the land which you are entering to occupy and drives out many nations before you—Hittites, Girga****es, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, seven nations more powerful than you—when the Lord your God delivers them into your power and you defeat them, you must put them to death. You must not make a treaty with them or spare them. You must not intermarry with them, neither giving your daughters to their sons nor taking their daughters for your sons; if you do, they will draw your sons away from the Lord and make them worship other gods. Then the Lord will be angry with you and will quickly destroy you. But this is what you must do to them: pull down their altars, break their sacred pillars, hack down their sacred poles and destroy their idols by fire, for you are a people holy to the Lord your god; the Lord your God chose you out of all nations on earth to be his special possessions.

Deuteronomy 7:1-6


Playing cowboys and Indians

But Hitler had a more immediate source for his genocidal beliefs than dusty chronicles of crusades and pogroms. He had only to note the self-righteous nation practicing ethnic cleansing across the sea. Yes, young Adolf was inspired by none other than the good ol' US of A.

Born in 1889, the year before Wounded Knee, Hitler was well aware of the American Holocaust. As Meier explains about the youngster in Hitler's Rise to Power:


His favorite game to play outside was cowboys and Indians. Tales of the American West were very popular among boys in Austria and Germany. Books by James Fenimore Cooper and especially German writer Karl May were eagerly read and re-enacted. May, who had never been to America, invented a hero named Old Shatterhand, a white man who always won his battles with Native Americans, defeating his enemies through sheer will power and bravery. Young Hitler read and reread every one of May's books about Old Shatterhand, totaling more than 70 novels. He continued to read them even as Führer. During the German attack on the Soviet Union he sometimes referred to the Russians as Redskins and ordered his officers to carry May's books about fighting Indians.

In American history, Hitler found justification for his dreams of Teutonic dominance. He spoke glowingly of the US, noting its "incomparable inner strength" (Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter IV). America, he believed, showed what Aryan power and purity could achieve:

We must bear in mind that in the time when the American continent was being opened up, numerous Aryans fought for their livelihood as trappers, hunters, etc., and often in larger troops with wife and children, always on the move, so that their existence was completely like that of the nomads. But as soon as their increasing number and better implements permitted them to clear the wild soil and make a stand against the natives, more and more settlements sprang up in the land. (Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter XI)

The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood. (Mein Kampf, Volume 1, Chapter XI)

Neither Spain nor Britain should be models of the German expansion, but the Nordics of North America, who had ruthlessly pushed aside an inferior race to win for themselves soil and territory for the future. (Supposedly from Hitler's Secret Book, pgs. 44-8, as quoted by Norman Rich in Hitler's War Aims: Ideology, the Nazi State, and the Course of Expansion, as quoted by Ward Churchill in Struggle for the Land)

Good read Criminal.... does make ya think.

I think Americans tend to "forget" that we stole, raped, plundered, and pillaged for our land. We killed tribes of indians because they were in our way and couldn't put up much of a fight. Then we put a bunch of africans on boats and shipped them over here to be our slaves.

We don't sound much different than a Barbarian Horde... oh... except we were justified because god said it was ok.

:nice:

The swaztika in the picture is backwards from how Nazis did it. I can't believe any sort of group affiliated with Nazis would have made that mistake.

Also, Hitler had a great deal to say about the USA elsewhere, most of which wasn't positive. Besides, Hitler said a lot of crap, almost to the point where you'd think he was bipolar.

Finally, I have no idea how you can conclude that fictional stories about the American West written by a German who never even visited there can be taken as a fair assessment of American policies and politics. Seems kind of a big stretch.

Very interesting. Hitler was also inspired by German history and mythology but the conquest of the American West seems to have inspired him in part also.

The swaztika in the picture is backwards from how Nazis did it. I can't believe any sort of group affiliated with Nazis would have made that mistake.

Also, Hitler had a great deal to say about the USA elsewhere, most of which wasn't positive. Besides, Hitler said a lot of crap, almost to the point where you'd think he was bipolar.

Finally, I have no idea how you can conclude that fictional stories about the American West written by a German who never even visited there can be taken as a fair assessment of American policies and politics. Seems kind of a big stretch.
The Hakenkraus, or reverse swastika was a symbol used by several proto-nazi organizations. In fact the girl in the picture was a German girl who was playing "cowboys and indians". The Swastika was, oddly enough used by various american indians as a symbol of protection from evil spirits. It was also used my Chinese and Hindus.

Karl May, oddly enough is a very popular writer in Germany and Eastern Europe even today. His story is that he was in prison when he wrote most of his liturature. His indian hero Vannetu or Wannetu was adopted as a hero to many German children. Oddly enough, the East German Communist regeim adopted Vannetu as a sort of hero. He was a champion to the poor and downtrodden settlers and fought against evil cattle bosses which made him an ideal communist icon.

I have no problem with the post.

But it should be noted that Hitler regraded what the Turks did the Armeniens as the actual blueprint for the Holocaust.

I have no problem with the post.

But it should be noted that Hitler regraded what the Turks did the Armeniens as the actual blueprint for the Holocaust.
He did make a comment in public regarding the Armeniens. I think its common knowledge that Hitler was unballenced but not stupid. He recognized that the German people needed a scapegoat to blame their problems on. He may have looked at all the infamous genocides thorughout history before planning the worst genocide of all.

I think Americans tend to "forget" that we stole, raped, plundered, and pillaged for our land.


BWAHAHAHAH. "WE"? I didn't do anything of the sort. How idiotic.


We killed tribes of indians because they were in our way and couldn't put up much of a fight. Then we put a bunch of africans on boats and shipped them over here to be our slaves.


WE again? I am only responsible for MY actions, not those of people who looked like me and lived 500 years ago.

YOU are also forgeting the fact that indian tribes slaughtered, raped and enslaved each other for thousands of years before Europeans ever set foot on this land, and did an equal amount of butchering of innocent whites. Most of the indians died from disease or were assimilated in to the larger culture anyway, very few died as a result of aggressive action. They were inferior primitives anyway, I am not the least bit sorry that their societies were for the most part wiped out.

its not we, cuz im an immigrant. its not even my ancestors because im not european. if u mean the english, yeah...

BWAHAHAHAH. "WE"? I didn't do anything of the sort. How idiotic.



WE again? I am only responsible for MY actions, not those of people who looked like me and lived 500 years ago.

YOU are also forgeting the fact that indian tribes slaughtered, raped and enslaved each other for thousands of years before Europeans ever set foot on this land, and did an equal amount of butchering of innocent whites. Most of the indians died from disease or were assimilated in to the larger culture anyway, very few died as a result of aggressive action. They were inferior primitives anyway, I am not the least bit sorry that their societies were for the most part wiped out.Lest we forget the nice "Native Americans" that slaughtered innocent Women and Children in the Utah territory who were just trying to get to Califonia, along with the back stabbing Morman settlers?

Actually you Americans carried on commiting genocide and land grabbing against the native people in North America long after the War of Independance.

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lilnymph

Excellent post, Criminal.

I'd been aware of the Nazi appropriation of the swastika, as well as the ironic Hebrew influence on their program of genocide, but never imagined a young Adolf playing cowboys and Indians, perhaps pretending to be the mass murderer Kit Carson.

Why don't we ask Hitler what inspired him?



Oh, that's right, he's been dead for 60 years :rolleyes:

The HakenkrausThe Swastika was, oddly enough used by various american indians as a symbol of protection from evil spirits. It was also used my Chinese and Hindus.


it was also used by Romans, Greeks, Celts ... It was a common decorative feature in medieval architecture, including churches, throughout the middle ages ...
In a nutshell, a cool symbol which won't shrugg off the taint of Nazism anytime soon :/

Hitler probably found encouraging similarites for his genocide and expansionism in American history, Turkish history, the Old Testament etc. I've read quotes from him where he rhetorically wonders how the Brits and the Americans can be so hypocritical to condemn his plans, when their history is so full of blood and slaughter.

But it probably remains the case that someone who wants to massacre a large number of people is just going to do so, without worrying about following any particular blueprint. I doubt very much that Hitler was this really nice guy until he heard about the Trail Of Tears and decided that genocide was okay.

Of course, all genocide should be condemned, but I don't think we need to blame the perpetrators of any particular atrocity for supposed imitators a hundred years later.

The science of eugenics, making master races, comes from the United States. It was not a European invention.