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Guesswho
12-03-2004, 04:47 PM
www.hallindsey.org

Now that the true Americans are waking up to the eneys within, maybe the first thing they will do is impearch the nasty 7 on Supream Court and sue the socks off the ACLU.

These commy nazis,imo, have pushed citizens too far with the rapeing of the constitution and the dictatorship of the people , they have so far managed to blackmail and push us too far. Now they are after the Boy Scouts on military bases and the ' in God We Trust ' of our currency . Telling parents too that they don't have to notify if they their child has abortion .

All this is my opinion and info imput, not nessasary this artcles at,Hal Lindsey website.

kiwimac
12-05-2004, 07:30 PM
The Defense department has a policy of not supporting groups such as the Boy Scouts. This has nothing to do with the ACLU and SCOTUS. As for 'in God we trust", which God?

As for you, get a life! Coz the one you've go obviously sucks

Kiwimac

general_motors
12-05-2004, 07:52 PM
www.hallindsey.org (http://www.hallindsey.org/)

Now that the true Americans are waking up to the eneys within, maybe the first thing they will do is impearch the nasty 7 on Supream Court and sue the socks off the ACLU.

These commy nazis,imo, have pushed citizens too far with the rapeing of the constitution and the dictatorship of the people , they have so far managed to blackmail and push us too far. Now they are after the Boy Scouts on military bases and the ' in God We Trust ' of our currency . Telling parents too that they don't have to notify if they their child has abortion .

All this is my opinion and info imput, not nessasary this artcles at,Hal Lindsey website.Could you translate that post into english please?

eeper69
12-05-2004, 07:55 PM
Could you translate that post into english please?:bowrofl:

DngrMse
12-05-2004, 08:05 PM
Could you translate that post into english please?

"The ACLU sucks donkey balls".


Remember people, the ACLU is'nt doing this for anyone's benefit other than their own. This is a for profit venture, on your dime. They sue, and then collect attorneys fees from the taxpayers.

Turbostang
12-05-2004, 09:01 PM
www.hallindsey.org

Now that the true Americans are waking up to the eneys within, maybe the first thing they will do is impearch the nasty 7 on Supream Court and sue the socks off the ACLU.

These commy nazis,imo, have pushed citizens too far with the rapeing of the constitution and the dictatorship of the people , they have so far managed to blackmail and push us too far. Now they are after the Boy Scouts on military bases and the ' in God We Trust ' of our currency . Telling parents too that they don't have to notify if they their child has abortion .

All this is my opinion and info imput, not nessasary this artcles at,Hal Lindsey website.

Typing Under the Influence should be illegal.

Guesswho
12-06-2004, 12:57 AM
Link works just fine, so if you don't understand my english, then see if you can understand theirs. As usual since you have no argument, you just condenm. Or maybe you think hard working decent peoples tax money should be made to pay for their own childrens corruption by perverts ?

eeper69
12-06-2004, 01:17 AM
Oh, I understand now GuessWho "childrens corruption by perverts", like this:

Scoutmaster arrested for alleged child porn

KSFY-TV 13 Sioux Falls

"Last night, 54 year old Charles Edwin Helland was arrested at his home on a Grand Jury Indictment charging him with 20 counts of Possession of Child Pornography... Helland is the Scoutmaster of Troop 48 of the Boy Scouts of America in Sioux Falls. He has been a Scout Leader for eight years. In addition to illegal child pornography seized in this case, investigators also discovered sexually erotic cartoon drawings (which are not illegal) that depicted young boys in scout uniforms."

Read article...
http://www.ksfy.com/Stories/Story.cfm?SID=1891

general_motors
12-06-2004, 01:37 AM
Link works just fine, so if you don't understand my english, then see if you can understand theirs. As usual since you have no argument, you just condenm. Or maybe you think hard working decent peoples tax money should be made to pay for their own childrens corruption by perverts ?Don't get your knickers in a twist. I never said I disagree with you.

You must admit that your post came across more as an incoherant rant than a reasoned argument. Then you post a link to what seems to be a pretty inflammatory website. It's like you are trying to discredit your own thread, and it's a shame too cause the ACLU seems like one of the worst organisations I have ever had the misfortune of hearing about.

flaming_liberal
12-06-2004, 01:39 AM
Now that the true Americans are waking up to the eneys within, maybe the first thing they will do is impearch the nasty 7 on Supream Court and sue the socks off the ACLU. Anybody want to tell him that this is one of the most conservative supreme courts ever?

These commy nazis,imo, have pushed citizens too far with the rapeing of the constitution and the dictatorship of the people , they have so far managed to blackmail and push us too far. Now they are after the Boy Scouts on military bases and the ' in God We Trust ' of our currency . Telling parents too that they don't have to notify if they their child has abortion . It fails the Lemon Test. Atheists are excluded, which violates the Lemon Test.

All this is my opinion and info imput, not nessasary this artcles at,Hal Lindsey website. Dude, if you're not sober right now, go to sleep.

eeper69
12-06-2004, 01:47 AM
Typing Under the Influence should be illegal.



Dude, if you're not sober right now, go to sleep.

:bowrofl:

Guesswho
12-06-2004, 02:08 AM
Anybody want to tell him that this is one of the most conservative supreme courts ever?

It fails the Lemon Test. Atheists are excluded, which violates the Lemon Test.

Dude, if you're not sober right now, go to sleep.


I'm not a dude ,nor do i want to be,unlike most of your[imo] butchy buddys . What a crock about 'conservative' S.Court.
:rolleyes:

Corporate Avenger
12-06-2004, 05:18 AM
<--- Supports the ACLU and our priceless freedoms.

jojo
12-06-2004, 09:51 AM
The ACLU is not an anti-christian organization. These talented devils often do good work for the individual rights of my fellow countrymen.

dorag
12-06-2004, 04:19 PM
children do not have the right to not notify the parents. children do not even have the right to refuse a surgery. so coming out and saying BS about privacy is inane. children are not protected by the constitution. so they dont get the abortion rights (the privacy amendment), if they did they would have gotten all other rights states in the constitution. which is obviousy not the case. when people like kerry come out and BS about teenagers who dont need to inform their parents i simply go gaga

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 01:59 AM
The Defense department has a policy of not supporting groups such as the Boy Scouts. This has nothing to do with the ACLU and SCOTUS. As for 'in God we trust", which God?

As for you, get a life! Coz the one you've go obviously sucks

Kiwimac


You like that word' sucks ',huh? :( . Bet I know why you defend ACLU . :eek7:

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 02:03 AM
The ACLU is not an anti-christian organization. These talented devils often do good work for the individual rights of my fellow countrymen.


I do hope your kidding or being sarcastic . You can't serve two masters JoJo. Only bush can do that . :P

igofast
12-07-2004, 01:23 PM
The ACLU is not an anti-christian organization. These talented devils often do good work for the individual rights of my fellow countrymen.
I have yet to figure out exactly why you support the ACLU, but I'm glad you do. :)

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 01:45 PM
Oh, I understand now GuessWho "childrens corruption by perverts", like this:

Scoutmaster arrested for alleged child porn

KSFY-TV 13 Sioux Falls

"Last night, 54 year old Charles Edwin Helland was arrested at his home on a Grand Jury Indictment charging him with 20 counts of Possession of Child Pornography... Helland is the Scoutmaster of Troop 48 of the Boy Scouts of America in Sioux Falls. He has been a Scout Leader for eight years. In addition to illegal child pornography seized in this case, investigators also discovered sexually erotic cartoon drawings (which are not illegal) that depicted young boys in scout uniforms."

Read article...
http://www.ksfy.com/Stories/Story.cfm?SID=1891



So what if there are perverts who don't come out ! Some are still in hiding. What has this to do with logical argument on your part ?

kiwimac
12-07-2004, 02:01 PM
Hmmm.

I like the word 'suck' why? dear chap, do tell?

Kiwimac

Feenix566
12-07-2004, 03:31 PM
Guesswho, you wanna sit here and talk about logical arguments? Okay how about if you present yours to start.

Why should the dollar say "In God We Trust"? It's just a piece of currency, it will serve the same purpose whether it endorses religion or not. Your faith isn't based on the dollar bill, is it? I'm an atheist, and YOU are infringing on my right to be an atheist by trying to claim that America is a Christian nation and therefor I'm not a real American. The Bill of Rights gives you freedom of religion, a right that you excercise every single day of your life. So why are you trying to take that right away from me?

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 06:27 PM
Guesswho, you wanna sit here and talk about logical arguments? Okay how about if you present yours to start.

Why should the dollar say "In God We Trust"? It's just a piece of currency, it will serve the same purpose whether it endorses religion or not. Your faith isn't based on the dollar bill, is it? I'm an atheist, and YOU are infringing on my right to be an atheist by trying to claim that America is a Christian nation and therefor I'm not a real American. The Bill of Rights gives you freedom of religion, a right that you excercise every single day of your life. So why are you trying to take that right away from me?


If your an atheist, you may want go someplace else and start an atheist nation . because , like it or not, this country was based on God and all His laws . And most citizens know this and want to keep it that way . These are not laws of budda or muslim or atheism, but laws of God and His people who live here.

We are protected from any one church making our laws ,like the crusaders did for instance, but this is a nation built from the Holy Bible,and only a idiot would claim other-wise.

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 06:31 PM
Hmmm.

I like the word 'suck' why? dear chap, do tell?

Kiwimac



Yall have been a bad influance on me, so forgive the nasty talk. :rolleyes: .

And I' an older woman ,not a 'chap'. :(

dorag
12-07-2004, 07:18 PM
the changed motto was a political move that was enacted during the cold war.

Criminal
12-07-2004, 08:10 PM
I thank God for the ACLU. They may be the last chance that America has against the onslaught against our civil liberties by the far right. Now that Bush has four more years we need to be vigilant my brothers!

And the ACLU is not communist. They stand for Free Speech, freedom of the press, abolition of the death penalty and human rights. Do they have those things in Cuba or China? Hells no.

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 09:04 PM
I thank God for the ACLU. They may be the last chance that America has against the onslaught against our civil liberties by the far right. Now that Bush has four more years we need to be vigilant my brothers!

And the ACLU is not communist. They stand for Free Speech, freedom of the press, abolition of the death penalty and human rights. Do they have those things in Cuba or China? Hells no.



Free speech for who ? This is the biggest lie ever told ! If they beleive in free speech ,why can't we profess God ? Or sing hymms on public streets . Write in newsapers about the sin and destruction of homosexuality ? Or say what you think, even if it offends some ?

Since when in the heck ,did having perverted sex or pornogrphy have anything what-so-ever to do with ' speach'?


YOU MEAN FREE SPEECH FOR JUST LIBS . Well let me tell you something , it was'nt sissy's or female rambo's who founded this nation . It was real men and real woman . :nice:

igofast
12-07-2004, 09:07 PM
I think you have a distorted idea of what the ACLU does, Who.

Guesswho
12-07-2004, 09:10 PM
I think you have a distorted idea of what the ACLU does, Who.


No I don't . If I knew how to paste,I'd show you . And we both know you don't want me writting it all out. My hands wouldnever allow it .

Criminal
12-08-2004, 12:16 AM
Free speech for who ? This is the biggest lie ever told ! If they beleive in free speech ,why can't we profess God ? Or sing hymms on public streets . Write in newsapers about the sin and destruction of homosexuality ? Or say what you think, even if it offends some ?

Since when in the heck ,did having perverted sex or pornogrphy have anything what-so-ever to do with ' speach'?


YOU MEAN FREE SPEECH FOR JUST LIBS . Well let me tell you something , it was'nt sissy's or female rambo's who founded this nation . It was real men and real woman . :nice:
Nobody is stopping you from professing God. Nobody at all. Is the ACLU going into your church and telling you to stop praying? You want to sing hymns on a public street? Its your right to do so. The ACLU will not stop you. Its not about stopping the freedom of religion, its allowing all people of all faiths to believe in what they choose to believe.

flaming_liberal
12-08-2004, 12:23 AM
Free speech for who ? This is the biggest lie ever told ! If they beleive in free speech ,why can't we profess God ? Or sing hymms on public streets . Write in newsapers about the sin and destruction of homosexuality ? Or say what you think, even if it offends some ?
The beautiful thing is that you can. However, newspapers, being a for-profit business, are not obligated to print what you send them.

Since when in the heck ,did having perverted sex or pornogrphy have anything what-so-ever to do with ' speach'?
The latter since it was declared an art form in some places.

YOU MEAN FREE SPEECH FOR JUST LIBS . Well let me tell you something , it was'nt sissy's or female rambo's who founded this nation . It was real men and real woman . :nice:
Cough. Cough. Bull****. Cough. Cough. Stereotyping is not a good way to support your case. Idiotic generalizations, the same.

Guesswho
12-08-2004, 01:40 AM
The First Amendment gives us free exercise of religian ,not to dictate or force it on others, but to practice it. The Boy Scouts is a place for boys, not males who have problem with their idenity. And to keep known perverts away from children has always been popular in USA .

This Anti-Cival Liberties Union ,is against everything good and decent about our culture and foundations. ACLU was started by a admitted communist named ' Roger Baldwin '. Use search and see for yourself.

eeper69
12-08-2004, 01:48 AM
http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68524&page=2

Feenix566
12-09-2004, 10:14 AM
If your an atheist, you may want go someplace else and start an atheist nation . because , like it or not, this country was based on God and all His laws . And most citizens know this and want to keep it that way . These are not laws of budda or muslim or atheism, but laws of God and His people who live here.

We are protected from any one church making our laws ,like the crusaders did for instance, but this is a nation built from the Holy Bible,and only a idiot would claim other-wise.

I have something you may want to read....


Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.



Could you please point out the part where is says that America is an exclusively Christian nation?

Feenix566
12-09-2004, 10:44 AM
If your an atheist, you may want go someplace else and start an atheist nation .

This statement is very telling. Here in America, we have this thing called equal rights. You may have heard of it. And yet you just told me to get out of the country because I'm not like you. It's precisely that attitude that the ACLU is trying to fight. So it's not surprising that you don't like them. They're standing up for individual liberties, which is directly opposed to your fascist views.

Guesswho
12-12-2004, 07:37 PM
This statement is very telling. Here in America, we have this thing called equal rights. You may have heard of it. And yet you just told me to get out of the country because I'm not like you. It's precisely that attitude that the ACLU is trying to fight. So it's not surprising that you don't like them. They're standing up for individual liberties, which is directly opposed to your fascist views.


It's not your faut that your so young and have been brainwashed ,imo, by the idiot professors in most lib uiversities . Even elemetary and high schols too .

But if you were better informed or had any knowledge of what you speak of, you'd know that our laws,culture and nation was based on God. Not a particular religian . Every law we had was based on the Bible. And you don't understand the meaning of the amendment you quoted.

kiwimac
12-12-2004, 10:36 PM
Actually most of the founders of the US Republic were Deists.

That is they believed in a God who was NOT at all involved with the world.

Kiwimac

Criminal
12-12-2004, 10:48 PM
Actually most of the founders of the US Republic were Deists.

That is they believed in a God who was NOT at all involved with the world.

Kiwimac
Yep, and not a few were Freemasons as well.

Guesswho
12-13-2004, 12:25 AM
This statement is very telling. Here in America, we have this thing called equal rights. You may have heard of it. And yet you just told me to get out of the country because I'm not like you. It's precisely that attitude that the ACLU is trying to fight. So it's not surprising that you don't like them. They're standing up for individual liberties, which is directly opposed to your fascist views.



I'm no fascist, but if you think that one pervert pissing into another perverts mouth that has his ARM up the pissers azz is art,and a ' RIGHT 'than you have to be fascist. This was a ACLU court case that not only claimed a PHOTO ' was art ,but also said it is ' free speech'.

:not:

We hold these truths to be self evident,that all men are ' CREATED 'equal......Bill of Rights

Feenix566
12-13-2004, 11:02 AM
It's not your faut that your so young and have been brainwashed ,imo, by the idiot professors in most lib uiversities . Even elemetary and high schols too .

But if you were better informed or had any knowledge of what you speak of, you'd know that our laws,culture and nation was based on God. Not a particular religian . Every law we had was based on the Bible. And you don't understand the meaning of the amendment you quoted.

laws based on the bible??

i can break 8 out of 10 commandments and never break the law.

but you can just go on thinking that you live in a country where everyone is supposed to be just like you, if that makes you feel better about yourself. i'm just glad the law isn't on your side.

Feenix566
12-13-2004, 11:05 AM
I'm no fascist, but if you think that one pervert pissing into another perverts mouth that has his ARM up the pissers azz is art,and a ' RIGHT 'than you have to be fascist. This was a ACLU court case that not only claimed a PHOTO ' was art ,but also said it is ' free speech'.

:not:

We hold these truths to be self evident,that all men are ' CREATED 'equal......Bill of Rights

it's a shame that you think you have a right to tell other people what to do in the privacy of their own home. Please look up the definition of fascist. See Mussolini.

Oh and that quote is from the Declaration of Independance, not the Bill of Rights. Guess you didn't know as much about history as you thought.

jojo
12-13-2004, 09:03 PM
Actually most of the founders of the US Republic were Deists.

That is they believed in a God who was NOT at all involved with the world.

Kiwimac

This is false on both counts. Many, but not most were not deists. Deism also does not state exactly what you say it does.

dorag
12-13-2004, 10:15 PM
the fact remains that all the religion-related things were in the declaration of independence which is not an official document. the constitution has no such claims.

I don't know
12-14-2004, 07:31 AM
If your an atheist, you may want go someplace else and start an atheist nation . because , like it or not, this country was based on God and all His laws . And most citizens know this and want to keep it that way . These are not laws of budda or muslim or atheism, but laws of God and His people who live here.

We are protected from any one church making our laws ,like the crusaders did for instance, but this is a nation built from the Holy Bible,and only a idiot would claim other-wise.- That's odd, as I've heard the US was founded very much on freedom of religion because it's founders were religious... 'deviants', that's the word isn't it? :D
Free speech for who ? This is the biggest lie ever told ! If they beleive in free speech ,why can't we profess God ? Or sing hymms on public streets . Write in newsapers about the sin and destruction of homosexuality ? Or say what you think, even if it offends some ? - Don't people do that already? Verbally harassing individuals, that's illegal in the US, isn't it?
it's a shame that you think you have a right to tell other people what to do in the privacy of their own home. Please look up the definition of fascist. See Mussolini. - I don't believe such a definition exists :hmm:

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