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CYLLON
11-24-2004, 10:13 AM
TheUnited Nations knew that Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was stealing from the oil-for-food program - and, by extension, starving his own people - but did little to stop it, according to a special report by the BBC at the weekend.

After a six-month investigation, the BBC said it had evidence that Saddam took billions from the oil-for-food program, and that “these abuses were widely known about at the time”. The BBC said there was evidence that Saddam demanded a kickback from companies that wanted to do business with Iraq under the oil-for-food program. ...

The BBC sent a reporter to Iraq and Jordan to track down people involved in the oil-for-food program, which has been described as the largest financial swindle in history. Virtually all said that Saddam took kickbacks from companies who sold goods to Iraq, and that the UN knew this. The businessmen - most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity - said it was standard to pay commissions, that nobody complained, and that was the price of doing business with Iraq.

A Jordanian banker said it was an open secret that contracts were inflated so Saddam could take 10 per cent. “We knew it was there,” he said. “(But) actually, it’s not our business, you know. Banks are (only) interested in their money, and to make money.”

The allegations have left the UN fighting for its reputation. The oil-for-food program is being investigated by six US congressional committees and by the UN itself.

Many UN officials believe the US is trying to divert media attention towards the oil-for-food program as a way of punishing the UN for failing to back the war in Iraq.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Iraq/UN-knew-of-Saddams-oilforfood-thefts-BBC/2004/11/21/1100972255082.html?oneclick=true

Why is it that everything the u.s. does is a freeking lagitamate crime but the u.n. and others can do as they please ?If its brought up by the u.s. then the age old defense pops up......"officials believe the US is trying to divert media attention towards the oil-for-food program as a way of punishing the UN for failing to back the war in Iraq".

Funny how this only comes out AFTEr the election.

The u.n. wants to pay for the investigation of themselves{in itself an axymoron**in allowing Saddam to skim $21 billion or more from the money Iraq paid the UN to protect them from Saddam in the first place.Clearly the ideas of shame and remorse apparently have no application . As Enron shows, any other businessknowingly ingaging in the complete and abject failure of itself to safeguard its customers would result in the refund of the money paid for the service nor would the victims be geting the bill for arresting the criminals, although I highly doubt that the UN intends on concluding that they did anything wrong. Kofi Annan will likely wind up charging the Iraqis to whitewash the entire scandal. It will become the UN's final indignity to the Iraqi people.

oki
11-24-2004, 05:26 PM
Kofi Annan will likely wind up charging the Iraqis to whitewash the entire scandal. no they wont.
and I thought it was a wellknown fact that sadam didnt give that money to his people? overhere it was, in europe.
and the US is part of the UN. its their tragedy too.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
11-24-2004, 05:49 PM
and the US is part of the UN. its their tragedy too.

Wrong answer. :not:

Don't ever criticize the US. The US is infallible, and the UN is scum - even when their policies are the same.

You should know better by now...

CYLLON
11-24-2004, 10:17 PM
no they wont.
and I thought it was a wellknown fact that sadam didnt give that money to his people? overhere it was, in europe.
and the US is part of the UN. its their tragedy too.
The u.n. fund was to go to aid the people. The u.n. scamed it with saddam.

.Its not a hard concept.

CYLLON
11-24-2004, 10:19 PM
Wrong answer. :not:

Don't ever criticize the US. The US is infallible, and the UN is scum - even when their policies are the same.

You should know better by now...
Was the u.s. in charge of the program?


Excuses excuses. Dont criticize the u.n. they can do no wrong. Always makwe the childish excuse that all loosers do and say,"wellthey did so they are bad to".

Never mind the culpability of the precious u.n.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
11-25-2004, 03:21 AM
Excuses excuses. Dont criticize the u.n. they can do no wrong.

Please quote me on saying that. Anywhere.

Ponycar_302
11-25-2004, 06:47 AM
Please quote me on saying that. Anywhere.
Nice little game of symantics there, Zaph. That's the opinion you've held for the last several years.

Here's your chance. Denounce the U.N. on this scandal and admit that they should've taken action to force Saddam to comply.

oki
11-25-2004, 07:16 AM
The u.n. fund was to go to aid the people. The u.n. scamed it with saddam.

.Its not a hard concept.and tehre are no americans running the UN? the US doesnt hav insite on what happens?

oki
11-25-2004, 07:19 AM
the program was a complete failiure. a;; participating countries knew that, inclucding the USA. you cant seperate your country from the UN and claim that it was teh fault of the UN.

CYLLON
11-25-2004, 01:04 PM
Please quote me on saying that. Anywhere.
Write back at you bud. Those that live in glass houses....

CYLLON
11-25-2004, 01:07 PM
and tehre are no americans running the UN? the US doesnt hav insite on what happens?
insite is not controle. If American ran it there would be the final resolution to uphold the others on iraq authorizing war{even thoe it was already thewre in the previous but the demands of the left....** and there would not be this kerfufle over iraq to beguin with....now would there.

Besides, if you really followed this scandel{which you dont** you would know its mainly the U.S. who IS doing something. Its the u.n. itself that is obstructing

CYLLON
11-25-2004, 01:09 PM
the program was a complete failiure. a;; participating countries knew that, inclucding the USA. you cant seperate your country from the UN and claim that it was teh fault of the UN.

So it is always the u.s. fault. Well there ya go zap. Theres one leftist that is honest enough to admit their stance. How about you ?
And we kept trying to tell you. Trying to use you sacred rules to make it work. It waas the u.n. {france , russia, and others** that refused . The program faild because the u.n. is a failure. If the u.s. tries then yes, they deserve to be seperated from the perpatraitors . DUH!!!!

oki
11-25-2004, 06:13 PM
its not just teh US its fault because the US is just one country in teh UN. its all countries fault. and you cant claim that teh US is teh only country which does something(which is not true) and then say that they have no resoponcibility on how it turns out. thats silly.

CYLLON
11-25-2004, 09:43 PM
its not just teh US its fault because the US is just one country in teh UN. its all countries fault. and you cant claim that teh US is teh only country which does something(which is not true) and then say that they have no resoponcibility on how it turns out. thats silly.
You are mixing subjects. They have responsability for how iraq turns out. for things they take direct action for. They dont the scandel because they do not control it . The council and u.n. as a hole does.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
11-26-2004, 03:42 AM
Nice little game of symantics there, Zaph. That's the opinion you've held for the last several years.

Uhm...no. :shrug: Unless you know me better than I know myself, of course. In which case I would love to hear more...

Here's your chance. Denounce the U.N. on this scandal...

I allready have, several times. Do a forum search. :nice:

...and admit that they should've taken action to force Saddam to comply.

That's another matter entirely. I've never been in favour of the sanctions.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
11-26-2004, 03:44 AM
Write back at you bud. Those that live in glass houses....

Ah, I didn't think so. Thanks! :nice:

oki
11-26-2004, 07:08 AM
You are mixing subjects. They have responsability for how iraq turns out. for things they take direct action for. They dont the scandel because they do not control it . The council and u.n. as a hole does.

thats what I said, the USA is part of the UN

Ponycar_302
11-26-2004, 04:07 PM
I allready have, several times. Do a forum search.
"I denounce it."

Takes less time than ducking out like you did. :nice:

The Frog
11-26-2004, 04:18 PM
Please quote me on saying that. Anywhere.

To be fair, Zaph, he could ask you a similar question about your statement in Post #3.

'Don't ever criticize the US. The US is infallible, and the UN is scum' is pretty much a mirror reflection of 'Dont criticize the u.n. they can do no wrong.'

CYLLON
11-26-2004, 09:26 PM
Ah, I didn't think so. Thanks! :nice:
" I never had sexual realtions with that women" Has spoken :p

Again, right back at you..I didnt think so.

CYLLON
11-26-2004, 09:28 PM
thats what I said, the USA is part of the UN
Not the scandel. Not the pay offs and the bribbed. Not the cover up, not the sacrificing iraaq to the wolves bunch ,so on so forth.
Now we have this.
http://www.nysun.com/article/5372
http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67027

CYLLON
11-26-2004, 09:29 PM
To be fair, Zaph, he could ask you a similar question about your statement in Post #3.

'Don't ever criticize the US. The US is infallible, and the UN is scum' is pretty much a mirror reflection of 'Dont criticize the u.n. they can do no wrong.'
Zap already knows that. Pony pointed out his hypocracy already. Its rather abvious to most.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
11-27-2004, 05:30 AM
"I denounce it."

Takes less time than ducking out like you did. :nice:

I just wanted you to realize your prejudice. By saying I denounced it several times before I effectively re-stated that. But to make you happy: I denounce all abuse, by anyone, of the oil-for-food program. Happy? :)

To be fair, Zaph, he could ask you a similar question about your statement in Post #3.

That was not directed at anyone in particular. Cyllon's remark was. And he knows he can't back it up...

Again, right back at you..I didnt think so.

What are you on about, Cyllon?

Ponycar_302
11-27-2004, 09:18 AM
I just wanted you to realize your prejudice. By saying I denounced it several times before I effectively re-stated that. But to make you happy: I denounce all abuse, by anyone, of the oil-for-food program. Happy? :)
Yes. :)

Zaphod Beeblebrox
11-27-2004, 09:28 AM
:nice:

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