the jihadists had set up a Taliban-style dictatorship, in which women who did not cover their entire bodies, people listening to music, and members of spiritual Sufi orders -- that is, ordinary Fallujans -- were subject to torture and execution.



The Fallujans have learned the same lesson the Shias learned before them, and the Afghans before them: U.S. boots on Muslim soil may be onerous, but American military action is preferable to the unspeakably vicious criminality of Islamist extremists financed, recruited, and otherwise encouraged by Wahhabism, the state religion in Saudi Arabia.



When Phnom Penh fell to the Khmer Rouge almost 30 years ago, Western media reported it as the liberation of a city. Noam Chomsky hailed the forced evacuation of Cambodian towns as a noble social experiment. But many journalists were soon forced to record the truth about Khmer Rouge cruelty.

It took longer for Western, and especially American media, to stop glamorizing the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and the Stalinist guerrillas in El Salvador, and to admit that the masses of people in those countries rejected their claims to represent them. An editor at the San Francisco Chronicle, where I worked, on the day after Violeta Chamorro (remember her?) won election in Managua in 1990, told me, "Nicaragua is no longer a news story for us." I asked, "is that because there will be no more violence?" He said, "No, it's because the U.S. is no longer a target." I am sure he meant "a target of our reporting."

http://www.techcentralstation.com/111804H.html

So dont buy all this doom and gloom the press gives. There are good and bad things in iraq but its hardly as bad as the bias press presents.

Get used to it when the US finally admits its error and pulls out that is exactly what will be left behind. An Islamic republic full of people with lots of reasons not to like the USA.

Blah, blah, blah. You'll be even more pissed if we do pull out.

It took longer for Western, and especially American media, to stop glamorizing the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and the Stalinist guerrillas in El Salvador, and to admit that the masses of people in those countries rejected their claims to represent them. An editor at the San Francisco Chronicle, where I worked, on the day after Violeta Chamorro (remember her?) won election in Managua in 1990, told me, "Nicaragua is no longer a news story for us." I asked, "is that because there will be no more violence?" He said, "No, it's because the U.S. is no longer a target." I am sure he meant "a target of our reporting."[/i]

LOL.

well why do many liberals cover their support of sympahy to communist revolutionaries around the world. are they ashamed? was ortega or mao or lenin for that metter bad guys. didnt they promote equality, freedom and democracy. i dont understand why many leftist deny their sympahy to communist, when they loved groups like vietcong and sadinistas in the cold war?

For some reason folks on the left confuse Communist with Socialist. Yes many liberals accept much of the Socialist concepts as worthwhile, however, they generally do not accept communist principles. Communisim is to socialism as A dictatorship is to a democracy.

Most "liberation movements" became communist because the US was supporting the target of their rage eg. Sandinistas, North Vietnamese etc. and Russia was the only source of financing. The failure of Communism and the "end" of the cold war has changed things greatly. Unfortuantely not the US support of oppresive regimes such as the "House of Saud"

looks like the extremists and fudies are having a ball in Irak nowadays...I wonder what made them all come to irak?

Most "liberation movements" became communist because the US was supporting the target of their rage eg. Sandinistas, North Vietnamese etc. and Russia was the only source of financing.
Actually, the States had originally supported Ho Chi Mihn, but when he wouldn't adopt the ideals of America (IE: freedom, rights, etc.) they pulled his financial support. He then turned to Russia for the money and weapons he needed, as well as ideals a little closer to his.

For some reason folks on the left confuse Communist with Socialist. Yes many liberals accept much of the Socialist concepts as worthwhile, however, they generally do not accept communist principles. Communisim is to socialism as A dictatorship is to a democracy.

Most "liberation movements" became communist because the US was supporting the target of their rage eg. Sandinistas, North Vietnamese etc. and Russia was the only source of financing. The failure of Communism and the "end" of the cold war has changed things greatly. Unfortuantely not the US support of oppresive regimes such as the "House of Saud"

so lenin, castro, ortega, allande- they were not commies initially? they were liberation movements who became commies?

Actually, the States had originally supported Ho Chi Mihn, but when he wouldn't adopt the ideals of America (IE: freedom, rights, etc.) they pulled his financial support. He then turned to Russia for the money and weapons he needed, as well as ideals a little closer to his.

yep we double crossed him like chan kan sheik and came out smelling cleaner than tree mills island. :D
FDR supported the repubs in Spain. :|

such a bizarre notion of what freedom is

yep we double crossed him like chan kan sheik and came out smelling cleaner than tree mills island. :D
We didn't actually double cross him. We funded him with certain stipulations that he failed to meet, so we abandoned him. :nice:

so lenin, castro, ortega, allande- they were not commies initially? they were liberation movements who became commies?

Castro wasn't.

Actually, the States had originally supported Ho Chi Mihn, but when he wouldn't adopt the ideals of America (IE: freedom, rights, etc.) they pulled his financial support. He then turned to Russia for the money and weapons he needed, as well as ideals a little closer to his.

I think you better go back and read your history again. Uncle Ho was a staunch ally of the Allies against the Japanese during WW2, however, at the end of the war like many indigenous resistance movements he wasnt represented at the table when the powers carved up the spoils. Rather than returning the country to the people who had fought for it. The powers returned Indo China to French rule ( the same France that had
assisted the Nazi's through Vichy rule) In order to fight the French he sought assistance where ever he could get it. In the post war world that meant Russia. As a party to the agreement ending the war and handing over IndoChina to the French the US withdrew support. He no doubt felt betrayed by the allies. Raised an insurgency and kicked France out. That should have been a clue to the US but it wasnt. The rest is history. The allies made of him a communist with their betrayal of his resistance movement. It happened alot at the end of the war. I doubt he head much choice but it could have been so much easier had they not supported Frances claims to Indo china.

LOL.


My reaction too..

http://www.infoshop.org/myep/schwartz.html

What a source, another deluded neo-con..

To a hatchet personal attack is the answer.
Why am I not suprissed.

To a hatchet personal attack is the answer.
Why am I not suprissed.


What? The truth is a personal attack? I'd say by this guy's writings that he's pretty deluded, and he is a neo-con..

I guess you've never spoken bad towards Michael Moore or anything like that or called him a Liberal eh?

What? The truth is a personal attack? I'd say by this guy's writings that he's pretty deluded, and he is a neo-con..

I guess you've never spoken bad towards Michael Moore or anything like that or called him a Liberal eh?
that article has and had ZERO to do with this one.
Nows there's a big bad boogeyman...Mommy don't let the neocons hurt me.

Aren't Neocons supposed to be this Zionist Cabal? (Funny how coarse biases bubble up from enlightened libs every once in a while)


So how do does Schwartz, who wants to expand Islam (free in his words) fit in with this supposedly pro-Isreali group? The Left is too dishonest to say they are against any war America wages. They bring in their old canards such as 'we must not lower ourselves to the level of the enemy and abide by the Geneva Convention' while downing their beer and cheetos and oogling naked pictures of Michael Moore.

The US military could commit every crime in the book and not be at the level of the jihaddies. Saturday the AP reported that the jihaddies used a white flag in Baghdad to ambush American troops. Summary execution of these creatures would be a mercy.

The media has shown its true colors. During the Vietnam war it constantly distorted the news. Today it performs the same function. Little wonder they enjoy the same reputation for honesty and objectivity that Michael Moore does.