That's RIGHT boys and girls.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&ncid=753&e=3&u=/nm/20041114/sc_nm/odd_cyprus_atlantis_dc

Science - Reuters


U.S. Researcher Says Finds Atlantis Off Cyprus

Sun Nov 14,11:35 AM ET Science - Reuters


By Michele Kambas

LIMASSOL, Cyprus (Reuters) - A U.S. researcher on Sunday claimed he had found the lost civilization of Atlantis in the watery deep off Cyprus -- adding his theory to a mystery which has baffled explorers for centuries.



Robert Sarmast says a Mediterranean basin was flooded in a deluge around 9,000 BC which submerged a rectangular land mass he believes was Atlantis, lying about 1 mile beneath sea level between Cyprus and Syria.


"We have definitely found it," said Sarmast, who led a team of explorers 50 miles off the south-east coast of Cyprus earlier this month.


Deep water sonar scanning had indicated man-made structures on a submerged hill, including a 3-kilometer-long wall, a walled hill summit and deep trenches, he said. But further explorations were needed, he added.


"We cannot yet provide tangible proof in the form of bricks and mortar as the artifacts are still buried under several meters of sediment, but the circumstantial and other evidence is irrefutable," he claimed.

:eek3:

It's the end of the world as we know it!
Edgar Cayce predicted that a portion of Atlantis would be found. *eek*

It's the end of the world as we know it! *dances around room* and i feel fine...

that's sooooo wrong. Atlantis is in the Pegasus galaxy :nonono:

that's sooooo wrong. Atlantis is in the Pegasus galaxy :nonono:


IS in the Pegasus Galaxy.

It used to be around the south pole somewhere.

It's always in the last place you look. :|

Robert Sarmast says a Mediterranean basin was flooded in a deluge around 9,000 BC which submerged a rectangular land mass he believes was Atlantis, lying about 1 mile beneath sea level between Cyprus and Syria.


This date frankly strikes me as incredible. I mean I don't think we talk about an Egyptian or Babylonian civilization until around 3000 BCE, right? Minoan civilization (Isle of Crete) is even later, I think ~ 2000 BCE or so. Bricks and mortar at that ancient a date just doesn't seem right, never mind a wall 3 km long.

I'm skeptical.

I'm skeptical.
Agreed. Not to mention the fact that early sources put Atlantis to the west past Gibraltar in the Atlantic Ocean somewhere.

why ya have to rain on my parade? :|

you need a man who will encourage your ridiculous fantasies.

you need a man who will encourage your ridiculous fantasies.

:nice: :p

I highly doubt that Atlantis was at Cyprus. According to Plato it was beyond the straights of Gibralter in the Atlantic Ocean. Experts have disputed the existance of this land for years. Some say it was the Canaries and others the Azores. Charles Berlitz in his amazing book, Atlantis: the Lost Continent describes findings of man made structures in the middle Atlantic and in the Bahamas.

Plato was all speculation on where it was; there are several guesses, Plato was writing old legends, mixed with some facts as they were known to several cultures. In any case, if it's a mile down and turns out to be man made, it is indeed very, very old, comparitively. Hopefully it's not just another fraud.

In further news, Faries and Dragons unavailable for comment.

:|

I thought that this was cool as heck. Apparently there are walls ect showing up.
Finally it will put to rest claims of supercivilization.

Plato said it went under in an earthquake, this fits.

Cool. Let's bomb it.

Cool. Let's bomb it.

LOL

For Great Justice!!!

another article...

"We found more than 60-70 points that are a perfect match with Plato's detailed description of the general layout of the acropolis hill of Atlantis. The match of the dimensions and the coordinates provided by our sonar with Plato's description are so accurate that, if this is not indeed the acropolis of Atlantis, then this is the world's greatest coincidence," he said.

Plato wrote of Atlantis as an island in the western sea, which has been widely interpreted to mean the Atlantic Ocean. An earthquake undermined the island and it was submerged. But societies dedicated to finding Atlantis remain.
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For its time, Atlantis was a highly civilized nation and in legend it has become associated with utopia. The English philosopher Francis Bacon called his 1627 book on the ideal state The New Atlantis.
...

"The myth of Atlantis has been around for ages and it is generally believed that, if it ever existed, it was somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean — hence its name. But ancient cities and civilizations in the Mediterranean region, such as the Minoan civilization of Crete, have disappeared as a result of major volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. For all we know, Atlantis may well have existed in our region."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-11-15-atlantis-discovery_x.htm

...but do they have a Walmart?

Hah!

"We found more than 60-70 points that are a perfect match with Plato's detailed description of the general layout of the acropolis hill of Atlantis. The match of the dimensions and the coordinates provided by our sonar with Plato's description are so accurate that, if this is not indeed the acropolis of Atlantis, then this is the world's greatest coincidence," he said.

ha-hah! vindicated...i knew that in the original article I read the dude said that the location was the same as Plato's description, but I couldn't find that quote again after the haters piped up.

No matter what it is pretty cool that there is a city buried under three meters of sediment a mile under the ocean.

i think we got a winner too. :nice:

wasn't someone a couple of months ago saying that ireland was atlantis

ok granted it was during the summer month's when nothing happens that's actually newsworthy but still

Yes, its built on their cemetary, you know Walmart and their facination with developing on mass graves!

ha-hah! vindicated...i knew that in the original article I read the dude said that the location was the same as Plato's description, but I couldn't find that quote again after the haters piped up.

I don't think I'm a "hater" to be skeptical of this. :mad:

To put it kindly, the Critias is pretty much a fable, and an incomplete one at that, as no complete copy survives. You've got Posiedon boinking some chick named Cleito (their son is "Atlas," hence "Atlantic" and "Atlantis,") a claim the island has lots of elephants, to say nothing of the fact that Plato specifically puts the whole place "beyond the pillars of Hercules," i.e. the straits of Gibraltar in the Atlantic Ocean. Also that they ruled almost the whole of the Mediterranean, with Egypt, Italy, Libya and Greece being specifically mentioned, but that they left no artifacts I've ever heard of. In sum, this guy appears to be taking what he wants from Plato and ignoring what doesn't fit his theory.

The Timaeus isn't even worth mentioning when it comes to Atlantis. It gets like a two paragraph mention, and then only in general terms. Given that the Library at Alexandria was burnt by fanatics there's no way to get any sort of independent confirmation from any Egyptian source either.

As was also noted in the USA Today article:


The chief government archaeologist of Cyprus, Pavlos Flourentzos, reacted with skepticism, telling The Associated Press: "More proof is necessary."



No matter what it is pretty cool that there is a city buried under three meters of sediment a mile under the ocean.

It would indeed. BUT we need independent confirmation before we crown this guy the successor to Heinrich Schliemann. Robert Sarmast seems like kind of a publicity hound, but I think Schliemann was too. Perhaps it takes that sort to go against what is commonly believed. Well, we shall see. What I'm curious about at this point is whether or not he has any reputable archeologists along for the ride, and whether or not they agree with his conclusions. Sarmast is the only guy being quoted at this point, don't forget.

This date frankly strikes me as incredible. I mean I don't think we talk about an Egyptian or Babylonian civilization until around 3000 BCE, right? Minoan civilization (Isle of Crete) is even later, I think ~ 2000 BCE or so. Bricks and mortar at that ancient a date just doesn't seem right, never mind a wall 3 km long.

I'm skeptical.

You are in the right ballpark for the timeline here but I do not understand these figures to be a source of skepticism.
Beyond the fact that this discovery is brand new, and the natural skepticism that should stem from the lack of further exploration, I see no reason to grasp at an a priori doubt of 10000 year old wall building technology.

There are ruins on earth comprised of stones up to 200 tonnes in weight, which made their way to the construction site over mountain passes in the one of the most rugged regions on the planet - a feat we would be hard pressed to replicate today - and yet they were built long before the less capable Inca civilization arose.
Technology does not progress forever in a forwards direction, and skepticism is more suited as a reaction to any view point (such as yours) which seems to affirm that it does.

M.

I always felt that Plato's work was not a fictive description, but one based upon residual knowledge of his day.
Whether this is the Atlantis of which he wrote, or not, I think it more likely than not that Atlantis exists somewhere beneath the waters.

M.

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Whether this is the Atlantis of which he wrote, or not, I think it more likely than not that Atlantis exists somewhere beneath the waters.


True..