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Shogun
11-10-2004, 07:56 PM
The same sign of the cross that Rome now worships was used in the Babylonian Mysteries, was applied by Paganism to the same magic purposes, was honoured with the same honours.

That which is now called the Christian cross was originally no Christian emblem at all, but was the mystic Tau of the Chaldeans and Egyptians--the true original form of the letter T--the initial of the name of Tammuz--which, in Hebrew, radically the same as ancient Chaldee, was found on coins, was formed as in No. 1 of the accompanying woodcut (Fig. 43); and in Etrurian and Coptic, as in Nos. 2 and 3. That mystic Tau was marked in baptism on the foreheads of those initiated in the Mysteries, * and was used in every variety of way as a most sacred symbol. See the worship of Tammuz in the temple in Jerusalem.



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* TERTULLIAN, De Proescript. Hoeret. The language of Tertullian implies that those who were initiated by baptism in the Mysteries were marked on the forehead in the same way, as his Christian countrymen in Africa, who had begun by this time to be marked in baptism with the sign of the cross.

[Note: the sign of the cross is in 6 steps, this is repeated three times to mark 666 on the forehead of unsinning infants. Well, that is one act actually called a sign of the cross which was the ultimate weapon of the beast which failed.

The "Mark" brands the forehead or Mind when we make it into an idol.]

The jews attempted to seduce Jesus into the dionysus song and dance as they "piped." Jesus also indicated that they hoped that John wore the soft clothing of a king's catamite or male homosexual. The worship of Dionysus was rampant and this TRIUMPH over of Jesus would prove whether He was the incarnate Dionysus. While He refused to engage in their traditiona antics of all priesthoods, they nevertheless TRIUMPH OVER Him momentarily on the cross:

"It is strange, yet unquestionably a fact, that in ages long before the birth of Christ, and since then in lands untouched by the teaching of the Church, the Cross has been used as a sacred symbol. . . . The Greek Bacchus, the Tyrian Tammuz, the Chaldean Bel, and the Norse Odin, were all symbolized to their votaries by a cruciform device."The Cross in Ritual, Architecture, and Art (London, 1900), G. S. Tyack, p. 1.

The people of the ancient lands used the cross in worship, some, like the Egyptians used it in Phallus worship, or, worship of the male sex organ. It was used as a symbol of fertility. "Various figures of crosses are found everywhere on Egyptian monuments and tombs, and are considered by many authorities as symbolical either of the phallus [a representation of the male sex organ] or of coition. . . . In Egyptian tombs the crux ansata [cross with a circle or handle on top] is found side by side with the phallus." A Short History of Sex-Worship (London, 1940), H. Cutner, pp. 16, 17; see also The Non-Christian Cross, p. 183.

W. E. Vine says on this subject: "STAUROS (staurŽV) denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake. On such malefactors were nailed for execution. Both the noun and the verb stauroo, to fasten to a stake or pale, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two beamed cross." Greek scholar Vine then mentions the Chaldean origin of the two-piece cross and

how it was adopted from the pagans by Christendom in the third century C.E. as a symbol of Christ's impalement." Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, 1981, Vol. 1, p. 256.

Sustauroo (g4957) soos-tow-ro'-o; from 4862 and 4717; to impale in company with (lit. or fig.): - crucify with.

Stauroo (h4717) stow-ro'-o, from 4716; to impale on the cross; fig. to extinguish (subdue) passion or selfishness: - crucify.

The early Christians did not think to have a crucifix or a cross hanging on their doors or in their places of meeting. New Catholic Encyclopedia says: "The representation of Christ's redemptive death on Golgotha does not occur in the symbolic art of the first Christian centuries. The early Christians, influenced by the Old Testament prohibition of graven images, were reluctant to depict even the instrument of the Lord's Passion." (1967), Vol. IV, p. 486

A History of the Christian Church says: "There was no use of the crucifix and no material representation of the cross." (New York, 1897), J. F. Hurst, Vol. I, p. 366.

Shogun
12-08-2004, 04:32 PM
Solipsism (http://www.vexen.co.uk/3/solipsism.html)

Brainbuster
12-09-2004, 12:00 PM
I don't jive with "worship of the male sex organ".

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