Bought this for about $300 at a gunshow. Still haven't gotten to fire it yet. Looks to be in great condition. Any comments?
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hmmm...$300.00 seems cheap for a German Mauser Karabiner 98k. Are you sure it's not a Turkish or Yugoslavian copy?

Positive. It has all the original Nazi markings on it too. I couldn't get a focused picture of those though because my dad's digital camera doesn't have manual focus.

and it was used for sixty years.
now ak-74 is a hot stuff. its like the improved version of the 47.

and it was used for sixty years.
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I doubt it was being consistantly used for 60 years.

[QUOTE=dorag]now ak-74 is a hot stuff. its like the improved version of the 47.

Yes, they are very nice, but did the Nazi's use either of them? No. That means they will never be in the (very highly regarded) realm of Nazi-Used-Awesome-Weapons.

STG -44. :D
FG42 :nice:

Gotta' get my hands on a nazi-owned gun. Yeah.

STG -44. :D
FG42 :nice:

OK? Two german non-AK47 weapons.

so what, the "nazi's" used guns that were produced all over the world. the mauser was a gun that was made before nazies came into existence.

OK? Two german non-AK47 weapons.

i know that many gun collectors wanna get their hands on a FG42

using domestic cats as mousers is illegal

maybe :p

Gotta' get my hands on a nazi-owned gun. Yeah.
Figured you for a 6.5 Jap kind of guy. :|


Trips, the bnz on the receiver is for the Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG, Steyr, Austria. Your rifle was not made in the Mauser Obendorff Werk plant. That's one of the reasons you got it cheap.

Using nazi-owned mauser rifles to shoot cats acting as mousers is illegal

Trips, the bnz on the receiver is for the Steyr-Daimler-Puch AG, Steyr, Austria. Your rifle was not made in the Mauser Obendorff Werk plant. That's one of the reasons you got it cheap.
I never said it was made in Germany. The guy pointed out this fact, but since it's an authentic german-used Mauser, it didn't bother me. I had the choice between two rifles at the gunshow: both were the same price. This one, or another that was manufactured in a German plant. However, the other wasn't in as good as shape, so naturally, I choose the better looking of the two.

It's a good buy. I own a Belgian model. I checked it out and it turned out to have a replacement Timney trigger. It doesn't affect the gun at all. A nice Leupold or Nikon scope and there is nothing you can't hunt with it. Take it to a gunsmith and have it checked out before you shoot.

Take it to a gunsmith and have it checked out before you shoot.
Good idea. Visually, it looks fine, no parts even remotely damaged or anything. Looks to have been taken well cared of, but I probably should get it checked by a professional.

So firing it wouldn't decrease the value at all?

So firing it wouldn't decrease the value at all?
It does, but if you take good care of it, and don't abuse it, then the wear and tear should be insignificant enough so that it won't decrease the value much, if at all.

Nice looking gun :nice:

Good idea. Visually, it looks fine, no parts even remotely damaged or anything. Looks to have been taken well cared of, but I probably should get it checked by a professional.

Yeah, it's best to be safe.

You'll like the claw bolt action. It's smooth working stuff. They have replacement stocks and scope mounts available that can really make into a nice hunting rifle if that's what you want to do.

if they gave you a choice between spingfield and k98- what would u chose?
what are the cons are prons of the guns.

Yeah, it's best to be safe.

You'll like the claw bolt action. It's smooth working stuff. They have replacement stocks and scope mounts available that can really make into a nice hunting rifle if that's what you want to do.


nooooo! i'm hoping to do German reenacting, so all I need now is a sling for it, and then it's done

While I do appreciate the craftsmanship

what is your fixation with german/nazi gear?

I don't get it

If its a ww 2 vintage I would think it would sell for more than $300. I don't really know guns but any antique from the third reich would fetch a fairly high price. Maybe the seller did not know the value of what he was selling.

While I do appreciate the craftsmanship

what is your fixation with german/nazi gear?

I don't get it
I think people are into war memerabilia because its a part of history. I got all kinds of stuff I collect. I actually have stamps from the third reich bearing the image of Hitler. I don't care for nazis but I can't resist buying something from that time. I also have East German and Soviet medels and patches. I even have an army jacket given to me by my ex-wife's father who was in the Czechoslovak National Police. It has a red star on the lapel. I mean its totally commie but I think its really classy. To this day I am still looking for some real genuine Japanese stuff from the war but thats really hard to find.

Criminal is right. It's owning a piece of history. What possibly makes german/nazi stuff so appealing to me is the "shock value." I tell people "hey I got a nazi rifle" and they say "*gasp* i cant believe he just said that and is interested in the subject!" Of course, my reasoning is not that simple, because I also think their uniforms are a work of art, and art must be appreciated, even when masterminded by a guy as evil as Hitler. The same question could be posed to you Scott, on your "fixation" with the "Aztecs" and why you would go so far to put a picture of them as your avatar. There are some things "I don't get" as well.

Cool. I have a first generation German Luftwaffe officers dress dagger with a big ole swastika on the top. It's worth about 800 bucks, shiny, and about 18 inches long.

If its a ww 2 vintage I would think it would sell for more than $300. I don't really know guns but any antique from the third reich would fetch a fairly high price.
It depends on who made the rifle and the condition it's in. An Austrian made rifle (like Trips has) will fetch a higher price than a Portugese or Spanish made one. One actually made at the Mauser plant will go for $1,000 or better, depending on condition. Some rifles go as much as $10,000, like this sniper rifle. (http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=6193424)

If you're seriously looking for collectible rifles, or just want to find values (or whatever) pick up a copy of Fjestad's Blue Book of Gun Values.

Trips, try this site (http://www.auctionarms.com/search/auctions(1).aspx) to find the accessories you're looking for.

I love my school team, just like i'm sure there are alot of Seminole fans at FSU :-p

I love my school team, just like i'm sure there are alot of Seminole fans at FSU :-p
I was simply using example to show you the folly of your argument.

Technically my grandpa doesn't own a Mauser 32. double action he picked off a dead dirty Nazi.

my grandma has a medic's binocle for seraching injured on the field.

Got a video up of me shooting it! (sorry there's some guys behind us talking real loud)

RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS!! (http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~jrb03j/jeffkar.mpg)

Fine looking wepon. I have two WW2 era pistols. A model 1911 .45 manufactured by remington with my grandfather's unit insignia. Also a Browning 9mm apparently manufactured in Belgium and used by the germans.

I own a modified K98 unsure of maufacture although I'm well aware it isn't matched. My barrel was replaced. :eek7: I bought it because of it's accuracy, with a 2X-7X-32mm Redfield I can put 3 on a quarter at 100 yds resting on a picnic table. As for hitting power being a slower projectile it really does a nice job on whitetails, very efficient.

Mine is rather sexeh as it has a laminate stock (gray, black with tan accents) the bolt handle is a spoon type that lies flat against the stock when closed. The finish is in great shape excluding the magazine plate that is polished to a chrome look by wear (someone carried mine a long time!)I love it I realize yours serves a different purpose but I assure you it's a worthwhile investment.

[QUOTE=CptTrips]Bought this for about $300 at a gunshow. Still haven't gotten to fire it yet. Looks to be in great condition. Any comments?
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Your rifle was manufactured in 1942 by Steyer in Austria. From 1938 until VEday Austria was very much a willing participant in the Nazi regime.

From the photos it appears that your rifle is what German collectors refer to as a Russian Capture or RC. Are there any electropenciled parts? Are there any matching numbers beyond the barrel and receiver?

Steyers command a premium even beyond that of a typical Mauser Oberndorf manufactured 98k. Three reasons for that:

1) That are less common.
2) They are prolifically marked compared to some other manufacturers.
3) There is a definite connection between Steyer and the SS and the use of forced slave concentration camp labor for SOME Steyer rifles. I can tell from the photo that yours is not an SS piece.

$300 retail is about retail for an RC Steyer. Collector’s with access to distributors will pay less but there is always a premium added for retail.

These RC’s are recent imports out of the Ukraine. They were captured by the Soviets during the war. At some point thay were disassembled, refinished and reassembled as part of some 5 year program most likely. Worker’s paradise in that these weapons were mostly obsolete as military weapons when manufactured and rearsenaling then in the 50’s and 60’s was just busy work.

The problem with the aforementioned process is that when newly manufactured almost all small parts on that rifle were numbered and proofed to match the receiver. A truly matching bnz 42 in excellent, non sanded condition will command $1K to $1.5K.

i know that many gun collectors wanna get their hands on a FG42..............
I think you mean an MG-42 ? but the MG-34 was ok also but jammed alot!!

I Got A Oberndorf Germany Made K98 Mauser At A Gun Show For $204
Buleing Is Relly Nice Ever Thing Is Nice About It And I Have A Tag That Tells Me The Mod.,cal,mfg,ser,
By The Wat The Mfg. Part Says It Is Made In Oberndorf Ger.

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Really nice K-98k's are becoming fairly unusual. The photos are gone, but if yours is indeed a good one, congratulations.

Might we know the manufacturer and date of production, if known?

Explorer

here ya go boss

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I believe the bnz is for austria, and the 42, well, 1942. That's what I've been told.

Technically my grandpa doesn't own a Mauser 32. double action he picked off a dead dirty Nazi.

My grandfather had a .25 Mauser he got of a dead kraut .... when he passed it became mine. .... not even sure what model it is, it's a .25acp and it fits in my pocket real easy (it's small) ... I've got the original holster and the papers for it. .... never shot it. ... there's no exposed hammer on it.

anyone know what it might be? (what model) ... I'd never in a million years sell it, but is it actually worth anything to someone else (its priceless to me)?

picture 92notch?

Yeah, post a photo or the markings on the slide, and I can probably tell you.

Have you asked on any of the gun forums? Again, they'd need more than the make and caliber, which is probably expressed as 6.35mm.

Explorer

picked up a 37 model k98 last week. waffen symbol on left side, with some other cool markings:nice: not sure where it was made has all of its armory prints, give ya a shout out after we've run some through it... peace

My best friend has one in the original box from the factory with the sealed ammo. 1 round fired. It's a choice piece.

nice jokes in this thread, h2

One actually made at the Mauser plant will go for $1,000 or better, depending on condition.

How exactly can you tell if it is?

I've taken my rifle to a few shows. One guy offered me 600 bucks just for the bolt action.

I was told the rifle isn't worth much because of the replacement trigger.

Watch out for expert forgeries, especially of WW2 German sidearms. Eastern Europe (Poland, Bulgaria, Czech Republic) all have a thriving cottage industry producing them especially for the US gun nut market who will jump at a "Nazi" marked piece before checking it out thoroughly.

How exactly can you tell if it is?

I've taken my rifle to a few shows. One guy offered me 600 bucks just for the bolt action.

I was told the rifle isn't worth much because of the replacement trigger.
Mauser actions are the best ones out there for custom rifles, that's why the guy wanted yours. As for identification, Google Mauser rifles and see what comes up. There are plenty of sites out there with info.

Mauser actions are the best ones out there for custom rifles, that's why the guy wanted yours. As for identification, Google Mauser rifles and see what comes up. There are plenty of sites out there with info.


I don't like the long extractor on the mauser rifle actions, I thinks its ugly and unnecessary, I've never heard of problems on any post 64 win or rem 700 .... or savage, or browning ... etc having problems. :) People either like the mauser action or they don't, there's no advantage to them if you are sticking within the relm of saftey on your loads. (overly hot loads could cause the brass to stick a little in the chamber, the mauser may have an advantage extracting the brass ... but you should never be pushing the rifle to that limit to begin with) ... that's just my opinion (I'm not a mauser action fan :) )

.... I do neeed to post pics of that little pistol, its over my parents house... I still need to move my safe over here.

Mauser actions are the best ones out there for custom rifles, that's why the guy wanted yours. As for identification, Google Mauser rifles and see what comes up. There are plenty of sites out there with info.

Turns out it's a model 93 Belgian. The markings are similiar to some collectibles, but it's been modified already with the replacement trigger.

I took it to the smith yesterday and he recommended converting the bolt action to cock on opening like a modern rifle. I'm gonna go with it as it's a safer option. I figure it's already modified and has drilled holes for a scope, so it's fit for shooting which is fine. I also have to get the scope mounts machined to fit right.

I don't like the long extractor on the mauser rifle actions, I thinks its ugly and unnecessary, I've never heard of problems on any post 64 win or rem 700 .... or savage, or browning ... etc having problems. :) People either like the mauser action or they don't, there's no advantage to them if you are sticking within the relm of saftey on your loads. (overly hot loads could cause the brass to stick a little in the chamber, the mauser may have an advantage extracting the brass ... but you should never be pushing the rifle to that limit to begin with) ... that's just my opinion (I'm not a mauser action fan :) )

.... I do neeed to post pics of that little pistol, its over my parents house... I still need to move my safe over here.


I love the mauser action. I shoot a post-64 winchester model 70 in 30-06. Great shooter, accurate as hell. It shouldn't really matetr if I think about it, but the mauser claw just has a more solid feel to it I guess. You're right in that it's longer.

Gotta' get my hands on a nazi-owned gun. Yeah.
They're the best.

And that Mauser seems pretty cheap for only $300.
By the way, this is a really old thread.

My grandfather had a .25 Mauser he got of a dead kraut .... when he passed it became mine. .... not even sure what model it is, it's a .25acp and it fits in my pocket real easy (it's small) ... I've got the original holster and the papers for it. .... never shot it. ... there's no exposed hammer on it.

anyone know what it might be? (what model) ... I'd never in a million years sell it, but is it actually worth anything to someone else (its priceless to me)?


Probably a Model 14 or a model 34, mauser. Price, really depends on if all the serial numbers match, about 7-1000 dollars.