For K-12 schools, would you rather attend/send your children to a public or private school? Why?

Personally, I'm glad I went to public schools and I'd much prefer to send any children I may someday have to public schools as well. Private schools don't necessarily use accredited teachers, their lessons can be manipulated by the parents who donate large sums of money to the schools, the lessons may be biased based on the opinions of the school, regardless of whether it's the bias of the teacher or not, and hell, they cost more. Public schools offer more job security, a state- or federally-mandated course curriculum, standardized testing, equal opportunity for students regardless of background, and a lot more of an experince in the world that most people exist in, at least to start out.

Also, it has been my experience that private schools foster an isolated view of "reality." The people I've encountered who went only to private schools are fiercely competitive, always trying to not only be better than everybody else, but to do so by means of sabotaging and putting down other people. They have the attitude that the rules don't apply to them, and the school only fosters that environment, they don't do anything to counteract that. Again, that may not be totally true, but that's been my experience.

Private schools don't necessarily use accredited teachers, their lessons can be manipulated by the parents who donate large sums of money to the schools, the lessons may be biased based on the opinions of the school, regardless of whether it's the bias of the teacher or not, and hell, they cost more.

True. A teacher who taught at both told me about Catholic private schools having adminstrators with no degrees, unaccredited teachers, and no equipment. He said the reason people wanted to send their children there is the the "caliber of other students" type of thing. Meaning they didn't want their children around poor kids.

Less chance of your kid getting shot at a private school.:nice:

Also, some private schools still paddle, which is a huge plus.

Less chance of your kid getting shot at a private school.:nice:

I highly doubt that's true.

Plus, there's a higher chance of kids at private schools getting addicted to drugs like heroin and cocaine, as well as a higher suicide rate (if I'm remembering the stats that I saw some years ago correctly). Higher stress, higher competitiveness, more money (in most cases), etc.

I strongly support Montessori schools for any children under 10 (whether they're private or public).

I guess that doesn't answer the question.

For K-12 schools, would you rather attend/send your children to a public or private school? Why?

It would depend on the choices.

Private schools don't necessarily use accredited teachers

That doesn't necessarily reflect a difference in teaching quality.

their lessons can be manipulated by the parents who donate large sums of money to the schools,

Parent's influence normally is a good thing. However, in today's changing demographics with racist illegal invaders and crazy Muslims, I see your point that their influence should be minimized.

the lessons may be biased based on the opinions of the school, regardless of whether it's the bias of the teacher or not

Not sure what this means, but there is currently a left wing bias and influence by alien entities such as the ADL.

, and hell, they cost more.

That is not necessarily true. If the the real estate taxes individuals pay that are allocated for the public are refunded, individual households would have plenty of resources available to pay for private school.

Public schools offer more job security,

That is a negative. No matter how bad the teacher, the union protects him.

a state- or federally-mandated course curriculum,

This is a problem when dictated by alien entities like the ADL.


standardized testing,

There is no standardized testing. All students trying to get into college take the SAT's though.

equal opportunity for students regardless of background, and a lot more of an experince in the world that most people exist in, at least to start out.

The implication here is that sheltered students whose primary objective in school is not sex and drugs will somehow benefit when exposed to such degenerate influences which is false.

Also, it has been my experience that private schools foster an isolated view of "reality." The people I've encountered who went only to private schools are fiercely competitive, always trying to not only be better than everybody else, but to do so by means of sabotaging and putting down other people.

It sounds like the people you have met from private schools are inherently evil. Competition is good however, since it brings out the best.

They have the attitude that the rules don't apply to them, and the school only fosters that environment, they don't do anything to counteract that. Again, that may not be totally true, but that's been my experience.

Sure yuppie children are spoiled *******s in many cases. You could easily argue that the urban children are worse since they feel that the law does not apply to them and that any enforcement of the law is a racist conspiracy.

...He said the reason people wanted to send their children there is the the "caliber of other students" type of thing. Meaning they didn't want their children around poor kids.

Are you sure "caliber of other students" (firearms jokes aside :p ) isn't really the intellectual performance exibited by the students other generally?

I highly doubt that's true.

Trust me. The private school I went to hasn't had a single kid even caught with a firearm ever, meanwhile, the public school in the same town had two shootings in one year.

Suicide rate, I don't doubt. The stress level was pretty high.

define private school. a school that has students whose parents pay tuition? in practice where i am the private schools work pretty well. they hold the highest percentages of students who go on to college/finish highschool than any of the public schools. bar none. the ciriculum is harder so they learn more and are more prepared for college and beyond. for the longest time they've had uniforms, no need to have a popularity contest based on who wears what, they all wear the same clothes (the publics now do it, guess private schools were on to something huh? guess hearing about kids getting shot for their jacket or shoes woke some people up).

now i went to public schools and where i live we had public schools and traditional public schools. the difference between the two is the standards were higher for those who went to the tradtional schools, both in how you behaved and also what you learned. in fact it was so popular you had to "sign up" when your kid was born to get a shot at getting into the traditional program around grade 1. i got in at grade 3 and the differences were vast. it was like a private school without my family paying tuition. literally. anyone could sign up for it. so its not like only rich kids got in, we had kids from the poor areas of town too.

now the private school kids, the catholics school kids...had a snobby air to them. they had a certain amount of disdain for public school kids. they felt they were better than them and in some ways they were, their standards of learning were higher and their results were higher, kids going onto to college and what not. in my highschool pot was EVERYWHERE. so were fights and racism and whatever else you could think of. my highschool sucked. the theacers didnt give a damn about you, they just wanted to survive the day so they could wake up tommorow and pray to live to see another day all over again. i went to a non traditional public school and i hated it. it was real close to my house but boy that was a dumb idea on my part. oh well.

i like some of the ideas of the private schools but some of which have already been adopted by public schools like uniforms for example. i hated seeing kids in my schools acting like its a fashion show. then again noone got beat up for their clothes.

with private schools the parents directly pay the schools so they know if the schools lets them down the school loses business and they dont like that, they also tend to be more active in their childs education. so standards are kept pretty high, parents who fork over big bucks want to see their kids LEARN and learn alot. and they do here. so there is incentive/motivation for schools to teach a higher standard ciriculum and for the students to learn, the parents care and show it by more activity in their childs education and school. about the only drawback i have with catholic school are they also teach catholisism and they're require to go to mass and pray and learn about the bible and stuff. not something i really care about.

Private Schools: Better parents and better student to educate. Makes them appear better. They don't have all the regulations and restrictions public schools have...that is both good and bad.

Public schools: Offer more subjects and extra curricular activities. Have a wider range of students. Are forced to take any and every kid. Difficult to "Cut" the bad kids out. Just as it is diffeicult to cut the bad teacher too.

But ultimately..if you have a good kid with good parents...The student will succeed but I think the public school is the better choice (Given it is a decent school)

A lot of it would come down to where I lived. If I was able to raise my children in an area like where my parents raised us, public schools all the way. The system was just as good/hard/challenging as you made it, and it is a very well respected public school system. (I don't think there was any 'armed violence' any of the years I was there)

Private school (even at a university level) just seems like a horrible waste of money to me. I'd much rather home school than private school. The stuff you learn in k-12 isn't that difficult, it isn't that in depth, and it isn't that complex. Why spend 15,000 a year on sending your kid to a private school, when you can honeestly teach them all they need to know?

Private school (even at a university level) just seems like a horrible waste of money to me. I'd much rather home school than private school. The stuff you learn in k-12 isn't that difficult, it isn't that in depth, and it isn't that complex. Why spend 15,000 a year on sending your kid to a private school, when you can honeestly teach them all they need to know?

I most definitely agree with this. We've already decided that if our kids don't like public school, and/or if we don't like the public school options available when our kids are school age, then we're going to home-school.

scary...second time in one week I have agreed with DHM!

We decided to send ours to public school. I doubt the decision would have been the same if we had stayed in California however.

I got into a big fight with my inlaws over this very issue. For myself and my wife it amounts to what goes on in the home.

Growing up in California the kids who went to private school were getting into the trouble just like the ones going to public school.

When I listen to parents and teachers discuss education it always ends up in a political fight. I reject the notion that public school teaches evil. Public school is public school. What really matters is what happens in the home.

In my house we can discuss the theory of evolution just as much as we can discuss creationism. It is a healthy thing I think. We can thank God for what he have been given and have individual views regarding worldly matters.

It's not an easy decision. Where we send our children to school makes a big difference in their lives. Its also a decision where one can change their mind easily. If these children want to go to a private college we'll consider it.

Evil and temptation exist in all areas of life. The center of a childs education is the home. It's a constant battle.

Private school (even at a university level) just seems like a horrible waste of money to me. I'd much rather home school than private school. The stuff you learn in k-12 isn't that difficult, it isn't that in depth, and it isn't that complex. Why spend 15,000 a year on sending your kid to a private school, when you can honeestly teach them all they need to know?

I think about this all the time. The issue is quality of education. How this is defined has to be subjective. If the child aims and earns his way to the doorstep I will be there to foot the bill. I need to know what is going on in the kids mind, though. I have a brother in law who went to private college who is a big dumb ass. I question these matters.

True. A teacher who taught at both told me about Catholic private schools having adminstrators with no degrees, unaccredited teachers, and no equipment. He said the reason people wanted to send their children there is the the "caliber of other students" type of thing. Meaning they didn't want their children around poor kids.

They do not fall short necessarily. The belief that religious instruction is important in all facets of academia is a valid one. OTOH if a young adult arrives at college age without knowing what he/she believes in then it seems that much is already lost.

I doubt the decision would have been the same if we had stayed in California however.

Why?

Evil and temptation exist in all areas of life. The center of a childs education is the home. It's a constant battle. :nice: