I am not Anti-American
I am not an America hater
I am not ashamed of my country
I do not wish to see harm come to my country.

I am anti-govt. corruption
I am anti-politician
I am ashamed of people that are supposed to represent me
I am anti-bull****


The majority of people that are accused of being anti american feel the same. Stop calling us anti-american.

I agree. You leftists should stop calling people like me anti-american. Screw you John LKerry and Teresa Heinz-Kerry.

Actually it is usually the Right who accuses the left of being "anti-American", though Ms Heinz-Kerry did call people "un-American" even though she said she didn't say it afterwards when asked about it.
I have been called anti-American on a board before and it was rather annoying because it has no real basis in fact, it was just a convenient phrase to throw at me.
Calling name is a problem with both right and left and it often detracts from the value of the debate.

Who cares who is doing the accusing! No one is anti-american if they question the practices of our government officials. That is what the people are supposed to do in a democracy. If no one ever questioned, nothing would ever change for the common good.

People like Michael Moore (even though he was born in Canada) consider anyone who doesn't buy their narrow worldview "anti-american" or "un-american". The same goes for radicals like Lou Dobbs who says on his program every night that if you are a working american who wants to buy cheaper better products from a producer over seas you are an evil anti-amerian neocon.

I think there are plenty of un-American actions performed by Americans all the time. Doesn't mean THEY are unAmerican.

Shopping at Walmart is unAmerican. :)

Shopping at Walmart is unAmerican. :)

My point exactly. It is the left and the paleocons who are the ones calling everyone unamercan. Igofast, just because poor working families buy cheaper and better quality products from abroad than they can get here doesn't make them un-american. :mad: What brand is your computer? Tv? Stereo? Car? Are YOU un-American?

Nice selective reading, my dear love, my contra:
I think there are plenty of un-American actions performed by Americans all the time. Doesn't mean THEY are unAmerican.

Walmart is not unamerican because it sells products made outside the country, it is unamerican because it lies about selling products made outside the country and because it exploits american workers, and because it intentionally destroys smaller, family run businesses. Regardless, it was mostly a joke and you chose to ignore the part that was serious.

Walmart does not "exploit" workers. In a free market firms cannot exploit their workers. LOL destroys smaller family run businesses? Or you could call them by what they really are: useless and inefficient operations which cannot compete because they sell inferior products at higher prices and provide less opportunities for for their emplyees and contribute nearly nothing in the way of taxes to the local economy. You leftists are so impractical with your silly mom and pop stores and organic foods, its all non-sense. Let the market decide not leftists, the market is efficient, the market knows best. There is nothing more wholesome and American than Walmart.

I shop at wal-mart and I can tell you one thing: I am not un-american :mad:

jesus, contra. I'LL POST THIS AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME, PLEASE TRY TO PAY ATTENTION:
I think there are plenty of un-American actions performed by Americans all the time. Doesn't mean THEY are unAmerican.

I still love you even if you're not very good at reading comprehension.

If someone takes part in behavior that is muderour, then they can be described as a murderer. If someone take part in behavior that is "un-american" then they can be described as "un-american". Why do you HATE igofast? :(

If someone takes part in behavior that is muderour, then they can be described as a murderer. If someone take part in behavior that is "un-american" then they can be described as "un-american".
What is muderour? Either way, it's a horrible analogy. One can not commit anti-American.
Why do you HATE igofast? :(
I love igofast, and I love you.

Welcome to the Love Shack. :|

Hey igofast, i get what you're saying. But by pulling those cards out of the deck, conservative reactionaries would no longer have argumentative short cuts that do nothing more than incite naive emotions.

...Shuckz

I posted something stupid in igofast's journal!

I understand what you are saying. As for me, just because I don't support the war in Iraq doesn't mean I don't support our troops. There is a big difference, and people just don't seem to get it.

One of my big phrases for the better part of this year is "Dissent is Patriotic."

I proved igofast was anti-American and will continure to do so.

Anyway. By your logic igofast, I can have consentual anal sex with a another man not be a homosexual.

I can steal from a store and not be a thief.

I can murder someone and not be a murderer.

I really enjoy how you deal with dissenting opinion. BURN IT!

Oh, please do, brainbuster.

I did but you erased it!

I did but you erased it!
No, you said liberalism is a mental disease. This of course says nothing about anything except your character. But if you think you can prove I'm anti american, please do.

That's not what I said and you know it.

No? Here's your original post. Looks like that's what you said to me:
While you overlook your parties extreme hatered for their opposition.

It must be nice to be able to represent hate itself and feel morally superior at the same time.

Liberalism is a mental disease.


Now tell me, how is that not saying "liberalism is a mental disease"? And how does that prove I'm anti American?

That's not my post. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. You an I both know what was really said here. It makes me sick you would stoop to such levels.

Owen, owen, owen. I still have the email notification from the post. Here it is EXACTLY:

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While you overlook your parties extreme hatered for their opposition.

It must be nice to be able to represent hate itself and feel morally superior at the same time.

Liberalism is a mental disease.
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I'll forward this email to you and anyone else that would like it. Every post in this thread from here on denying this will be deleted.

Anyway. By your logic igofast, I can have consentual anal sex with a another man not be a homosexual.

I can steal from a store and not be a thief.

I can murder someone and not be a murderer.

I really enjoy how you deal with dissenting opinion. BURN IT!
No, you are wrong. I have hit someone before. That is a violent act. It doesn't make me a violent person. That is solid logic and it fits in the topic of my original assertion.

I am fine with dissenting opinions as long as they are not idiotic.

Since you will stifle any further defense on my part I must not defend myself.

I do find it funny that you edited a post so no one could see it, now you are anxious for everyone to see.

I am only revealing your post because I do not appreciate being called a liar, especially by a liar.

Owen, owen, owen. I still have the email notification from the post. Here it is EXACTLY:



I'll forward this email to you and anyone else that would like it. Every post in this thread from here on denying this will be deleted.
:nice:

No, you are wrong. I have hit someone before. That is a violent act. It doesn't make me a violent person. That is solid logic and it fits in the topic of my original assertion.

I am fine with dissenting opinions as long as they are not idiotic.

So, how do you define someone as anything? I've lied before, but that doesn't make me a liar.

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While you overlook your parties extreme hatered for their opposition.

It must be nice to be able to represent hate itself and feel morally superior at the same time.

Liberalism is a mental disease.
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The email states the truth. It's impossible for anyone to change your reply and then it be change in the forward email notification. As soon as you post a reply in a thread, it automatically gets forward to all subscribed users.

The email states the truth. It's impossible for anyone to change your reply and then it be change in the forward email notification. As soon as you post a reply in a thread, it automatically gets forward to all subscribed users.

:blahblah:

The fact is I got igofast to call me a liar, which kills his idea of being able to act a certain way and not be what you are.

Whatever I'm not very articualte at the moment. He hasn't responded to my last post, so I'm guessing he sees it as well.

I am only revealing your post because I do not appreciate being called a liar, especially by a liar.

This post right here I believe?

Yes igofast, you shot yourself in the foot.

:blahblah:

The fact is I got igofast to call me a liar, which kills his idea of being able to act a certain way and not be what you are.

Whatever I'm not very articualte at the moment. He hasn't responded to my last post, so I'm guessing he sees it as well.
No, I rolled my eyes at it and ignored it because it's moronic. But I'll respond just for you.

If someone does something "anti-american" without realizing that it is indeed anti-american, then they are not anti-american. That has been my point allllllll along.

You intentionally and knowingly lied. That makes you a liar. Had you lied without realizing it, you would not be a liar.

It's a very simple concept. Now go away.

I'm not going to go away because you think I'm moronic. You make no sense at all. Now you throw in this "without realizing it" nonsense.

You intentionally hit someone! That makes you violent! I could go on for days with this, you dig yourself deeper and deeper.

The thing that amazes me is that you don't realize what your saying.

You said you hit someone, but that doeasn't make you violent. Unless you happend to turn around and smack someone on accident, you did it on purpose. We all know that's what you meant.

So, I lie on purpose. How do you draw the conclution that I'm a liar?

How can you hit someone and not be violent, but I can lie and be a liar? Your holding me to a double standard! Is it because you have to feel morally superior?

No, you are wrong. I have hit someone before. That is a violent act. It doesn't make me a violent person. That is solid logic and it fits in the topic of my original assertion.

I am fine with dissenting opinions as long as they are not idiotic.

Here's your post.

I am going to hit someone when my friend is jumped for no reason. I do not like fighting, I do not like violence, I am not a violent person. Anyone will tell you that this is not contradictory.

This "without realizing it" nonesense that I'm "throwing in" is what I meant all along. You will now say it's not the same situation as the violence example. I realize this, I was simply using that to show that one can commit something without becoming it.

I did not ask you to go away because I think you're moronic, I simply asked you to go away. If you're not going to maybe you could prove how I'm anti-American like you said you would.

Here's your post.
Here's your post too! Woohoo!

what the hell?!
someone started a cat fight without me?!
SCREW YOU GUYS!

igofast, what other things in your opinion make me "un-american"?

igofast, what other things in your opinion make me "un-american"?
contra, my love, I never once called you un or anti american.

contra, my love, I never once called you un or anti american.

I shop at Walmart. Walmart shoppers are "un-american". That means me and millions upson millions of other americans are evil. Tell me, what else makes me evil?

Why do you HATE, igofast?

I shop at Walmart. Walmart shoppers are "un-american". That means me and millions upson millions of other americans are evil. Tell me, what else makes me evil?

Why do you HATE, igofast?
1. The walmart comment was tongue in cheek joking. I hate walmart, I think they operate in a way that goes against what is best for communities and this country, but I was joking when I said shopping at walmart was unamerican. I already explained that to you, dear contra.

2. I also have said three times, all of them directed at you, that just because someone performs an action that is unamerican does not mean in my eyes that they are by definition an unamerican person.

Did you understand it that time, contra?

(Off topic, but for the record, I do hate many things. Hate is not always a bad thing. But this has nothing to do with what we're discussing.)

Igofast, why are you so INTOLERANT?

I'M NOT! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

You're not unAmerican. I never said you were. Where is your basis of my intollerance?

Contra, why are you MAKING THIS UP?