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Manu
06-24-2004, 06:05 AM
How many of you have tried them? How many swear by them? In India, my grandpa always would swear by them, and give them to me when I was sick (and always seemed to work just as good as something else)

Who even knows what they are?

Seems like you can only find them in 'health food like stores.'

igofast
06-24-2004, 01:22 PM
When I was a kid my mom took me to a homiopathic doctor a lot. He sucked.

However, done correctly, homiopathic treatment does not suck.

colonel
06-24-2004, 01:41 PM
He sucked.

Interesting method. What was he treating you for? :eek3:

It has been my experience the homiopathic remedies can be quite effective when dispensed and used by people who know what they're doing.

Many of them (i.e. Echinacia) are excellent for preventing the ailment before it starts.

I've also found Chinese medicine to be quite effective in cases where western medicine is ineffective. (Sciatica for example)

h2g2Fan
06-24-2004, 02:42 PM
Before this thread goes any further, let me just say this now, the word is homeopathic. Don't feel bad, it's one of the easiest words to misspell.

With that said, I don't know much about it, other than to say that vaccinations are like pre-emptive homeopathic remedies.

turtle_o
06-24-2004, 02:54 PM
How many of you have tried them? How many swear by them? In India, my grandpa always would swear by them, and give them to me when I was sick (and always seemed to work just as good as something else)

Who even knows what they are?

Seems like you can only find them in 'health food like stores.'

my neighbor is a homeopathist, she totally changed my view on medecine, her husband and her do homeopathy too, the idea is that you take medecines specific to YOU, and this helps to keep your immune system up, so that you dont get sick. (everything then turns into a matter of how strong your immune system is.)

she got me to think about applying this personalized medecine idea to biotechnology. . .

I think you might be referring to naturopathy, homeopathy is more about homeostatis, continually keeping a strong immune system and a bit less about natural remedies, though that is a huge part of it too.

Manu
06-24-2004, 03:01 PM
Thanks for the spelling nazi :)

Thats an interesting point about vaccinations and it is quite true. I wonder why vaccinations are seen as 'useful' and part of established medical practice, but other treatments are not?

Misteria
06-24-2004, 03:05 PM
How many of you have tried them? How many swear by them? In India, my grandpa always would swear by them, and give them to me when I was sick (and always seemed to work just as good as something else)

Who even knows what they are?

Seems like you can only find them in 'health food like stores.'
wise grandad ;) as in my hubbys family , when mine half goes to india he goes to homeopathic doctor and also gets his medicine made specially for him and swear by it.
I do know it works and we have helped my niece cure her arthritis (she is 21) the only thing about homeopathic treatments is you must be patient as it takes time to have effect.
Alternative choice and i am a firm believer as well is the AYURVEDIC medicines and treatments and something i would love to learn and maybe in a few years time i will go to India to take a course and study for the Title.
India is a country full of alternative remedies and natural without the added side effects of the medicines we use here. :nice:

Goddess3268
06-25-2004, 09:02 PM
I am looking into homeopathy for my 7yr old boxer. She was diagnosed with cancer and I want to give her what I can; taking her to be adjusted, acupuncture, diet...but homeopathy I don't have many leads.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :)

turtle_o
06-26-2004, 10:44 AM
Thanks for the spelling nazi :)

Thats an interesting point about vaccinations and it is quite true. I wonder why vaccinations are seen as 'useful' and part of established medical practice, but other treatments are not?

because you need to go to a specialist to see what kind of homeopathic medecine you would take. Like i said my neighbor is a homeopathist, her husband and her kids take their own homeopathy regiment, it's specifically tailored to each person. A regular doctor sees you once every couple years, checks to see you are alright and then off you go, unless you get sick.

Vaccinations are general and given to everyone, homeopathy is specific to each person.

eeper69
06-26-2004, 11:01 AM
I take some of them. They are usually available in an "herb shop". Accupuncturists usually have the Chinese herbs, which are a little different. I've seen them do wonders on several people I know so I do think they work. They aren't regulated by the FDA though so it's best to go with a reputable company like Nature's Sunshine to make sure the ingredients they claim are in them are actually there and in the amount specified.

Corporate Avenger
06-28-2004, 03:55 AM
How many of you have tried them?


I have..:)


How many swear by them?


I do.

I think of it this way, when their is some sort of illness in the body, whether it's a headache, or a cold, it's not because of a deficiency of synthetic chemicals (pharmaceuticals), it's due to lifestyle, environment, and diet.


In India, my grandpa always would swear by them, and give them to me when I was sick (and always seemed to work just as good as something else)


Cool.. When I was in Hawaii last I caught something nasty on the plane, so I went to this little Chinese herbal shop nearby and the lady gave me something that cleared it up by the next day.



Who even knows what they are?

Seems like you can only find them in 'health food like stores.'


Pretty much, although many supermarkets like Ralphs are starting to carry some things which is good..

Zaphod Beeblebrox
06-29-2004, 08:42 AM
Homeopathy is a crock. The notion that if a solution of something is diluted to the point where the chance of actual molecules still being in there is virtually nil can have a positive effect besides a psychological one is absurd.

The homeopaths of this world try to counter that by claiming that even though there may not be any molecules present, the 'essence' or 'spirit' of the effective solvent is still there and doing it's work.

Right.

About as smart as claiming that secondary smoke is a homeopathic cure for lung cancer...

Calypso
07-02-2004, 01:40 AM
try it and see if it is a crock.i think its awesome and just as a note most of them arent vegan if anyone was wondering. my fave company is boiron.

Manu
07-02-2004, 04:50 AM
what do they use in them thats not vegan?

ZB-

So, you think all of the results are just from the placebo effect?

Chris
07-02-2004, 05:14 AM
I believe there have been studies that have shown that homeopathic remedies have an impact above that of the placebo effect.

Corporate Avenger
07-02-2004, 06:12 AM
I don't think it's a crock at all, I've had good results with it so isn't that what matters?

And there is evidence that it does work, I know the whole dilution thing seems confusing, but check this >>> http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991532

Manu
07-02-2004, 03:12 PM
Chris-

I do believe so. I think that the placebo effect usually is like 7-10%, but im unsure what success rate the homeopathic stuff has...

RyanEbelhar
07-03-2004, 03:12 AM
i was thinking of an episode of Futurama where a robot is going around asking for scientists to help with global warming, and a guy runs and yells

"I have a degree in homepathic medicine!"
and the robot goes
"you have a degree in BALONEY"
and sprays him with a firehose

Zaphod Beeblebrox
07-03-2004, 07:41 AM
try it and see if it is a crock.

I have. Why do you think I came to this conclusion? ;)

So, you think all of the results are just from the placebo effect?

Largely. Also, people who start taking something subconsciously alter their lifestyle to a more healtier one, at least for a while. That also helps.

I don't think it's a crock at all, I've had good results with it so isn't that what matters?

Whatever works for you!

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