View Full Version : Bush campaign souvenirs made in blacklisted country
Johnson 03-20-2004, 10:29 PM Go Bush!
http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzsell0319,0,4764348.story
"The official merchandise Web site for President George W. Bush's re-election campaign has sold clothing made in Burma, whose goods were banned by Bush from the U.S. last year to punish its military dictatorship. The merchandise sold on www.georgewbushstore.com includes a $49.95 fleece pullover, embroidered with the Bush-Cheney '04 logo and bearing a label stating it was made in Burma, now Myanmar.
The jacket was sent to Newsday as part of an order that included a shirt made in Mexico and a hat not bearing a country-of-origin label...
Bush last July signed into law the Burmese Freedom and Democracy Act, saying 'The United States will not waver from its commitment to the cause of democracy and human rights in Burma.'
Violators of the import ban are subject to fines and jail, according to the U.S. Treasury Department. Burmese textile workers earn as little as 7 cents per hour, according to the National Labor Committee, a human rights group."
302Riz 03-20-2004, 10:30 PM morons!
Stone 03-21-2004, 03:34 PM These merchandising sites are hilariously sickening. As if Bush needs even more money.
http://www.georgewbushstore.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/scstore/w_pres_line.htm?L+scstore+uyhg6582+1079922582
I think they should carry "W" toilet paper. i would buy that :D
RedLine99 03-21-2004, 03:56 PM Boycott Nike!
ColWTH 03-21-2004, 03:58 PM Hilariously sickening?
What an idiotic comment.
Is the M & M (the cand not the scum bag rapper) site "sickening"?
Is the Sony records site "sickening"?
Is ANY site that sells things "sickening" by their mere existence?
If people want to buy things to clebrate their guy, why do YOU deny them that right? By what law of the Gods do you take the right to tell people when they can buy a hat or coffee cup with W's name on it or when they cannot.
YOU are the sickening one. To deny W fans the ability to do this when capitalism is the HEART of our nation. And when political campaigns raise money by doing this I see no harm in it what so ever.
John Kerry has the exact same stuff on HIS site.
Why isn't THAT "sickening"
I find YOU sickening. Your partisan hatred, your anti-capitalist foolishness and your hate America above all else rhetoric.
Stone 03-21-2004, 04:11 PM jeez pal relax. Don't judge me, cuz u dont know me aiite?
If Kerry's site was the subject of this post i might have criticized his shameless self promotion as well. I also didnt realize that my comment denied anyone their rights. :rolleyes:
Honestly i find W's site more hilarious (corny) than anything else, but i suppose raising funds by selling overpriced merchandise is better than corporate contributions. So that makes me all for it.
However, as usual, I don't agree with Bush's particular application of this fundraising activity. Good idea, bad way to do it (as usual)
Hoo-ha :cool:
Sinclair 03-21-2004, 04:12 PM What does that have to do with anything?
What's sickening is: (I will explain it point by point)
1. Bush made a law embargoing trade with Burma/Myanmar for human rights reasons.
2. Bush's relection website then sold stuff made in Burma/Myanmar.
3. This was presumably to save a few bucks, since labour there is cheap as dirt.
4. Is this not breaking a law that Bush himself signed into law?
How is protesting breaking a law embargoing trade with a country known for hman rights abuses BY PEOPLE SUPPORTING THE GUY WHO MADE THE LAW anti-capitalist or America-hating?
And ColonelWTH, if you had posted the article, and it had been about Kerry's site selling stuff from Burma/Myanmar illegally, you would have been SCREAMING about the disregard for the human rights of the Burmese/Myanmaris (or whatever), and how HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS are a central plank of the Democratic campaign, and how this proves that Kerry and every other left winger who has ever lived, currently lives, or will live, WAS/IS/WILL BE AN EVIL MURDERER.
I mean, Christ, don't talk about Partisanship. It's pretty obvious that to you, the word means "Political stuff I disagree with".
Cherry 03-21-2004, 05:37 PM Dosent it worry you folks that Bush has been makeing a series of stupid errors. Examples would be the Budget estimates, post war planning, this little thing here selling blacklisted goods, the way they handled the issue of National guard service ( should not have been that big a story). The errors are ones that most of the people on this board recognize as woops and one would expect better preformance out of the white house on them ( regardless of political bent)
ColWTH 03-21-2004, 05:55 PM non issues all.
SimoneAsLily 03-21-2004, 06:38 PM Originally posted by Cherry
Dosent it worry you folks that Bush has been makeing a series of stupid errors. Examples would be the Budget estimates, post war planning, this little thing here selling blacklisted goods, the way they handled the issue of National guard service ( should not have been that big a story). The errors are ones that most of the people on this board recognize as woops and one would expect better preformance out of the white house on them ( regardless of political bent)
Indeed!!!
The decision processes of Bush and his administration are quite bewildering at times. And its not just in the area of the 'woops'.
At this minute the only area where his decision process seems valid is in the tax cuts. That it has not improved the job market yet is stumping the best of the economists. But other aeas of the ecomony seem to be improving. I think many are fearful it won't last long enough.
His Medicare drug plan is another fiasco. ( guess we could chalk that up to vote pandering)
And I won't even go into the decision of the TIMIING of our involvement in Iraq.
Sinclair 03-21-2004, 09:11 PM Originally posted by ColWTH
non issues all.
What the hell are you talking about? I wish I had the magical ability to will away things I am uncomfortable with, but sadly I do not. Perhaps you can teach me?
THE ****ING LAW PROHIBITING TRADE WITH BURMA WAS BROUGHT INTO LAW BY BUSH.
His campaign site then BREAKS THE LAW by selling shirts made in Burma.
Are you saying you don't CARE about hypocrisy combined with lawbreaking?
Johnson 03-21-2004, 09:34 PM Stay on topic, Col. WTF
ColWTH 03-21-2004, 10:02 PM No, I don't care about it.
Sinclair 03-21-2004, 10:11 PM So you don't care about a law that Bush signed in, hypocrisy, or human rights? You're okay with crime, hypocrisy, and human rights abuses?
ColWTH 03-21-2004, 10:24 PM I am sorry. I just don't care about this issue. I am sure that the Bush campaign just didn't pay attention to where these orders of their campaign goods came from. I doubt that Bush is ordering the shirts for his campaign personally.
Do YOU think he did?
You guys were all ready to forgive Clinton for ANY thing he did. Why is Bush different?
Oh, yeah ... because you hate him. THAT'S why.
If they blatantly ignore this issue and keep making such orders then I will agree that this is a hypoicrissy that should be pointed out.
In the meantime, I would be interested in where the shirts from the Kerry campaign came from...
KanuckiStang 03-21-2004, 10:30 PM Originally posted by ColWTH
I am sorry. I just don't care about this issue.
I'm sure textile workers in the US that had their jobs outsourced care. Can't you see the irony...the hypocrisy of this? Bush creates a law designed to prevent trade with Myanmar and then, a short time later, his campaign junk is made in Myanmar. This in a largely jobless recovery where outsourcing is a contentious issue.
It's just hilarious.
Corporate Avenger 03-21-2004, 10:33 PM LMAO!!
We don't care! As long as it's our guy doing the lawbreaking!!! Too much..
SpabSFW 03-21-2004, 10:37 PM Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
LMAO!!
We don't care! As long as it's our guy doing the lawbreaking!!! Too much..
See, people can be honest~
**no offense ColWTH, but that is your stated position.
Corporate Avenger 03-21-2004, 10:42 PM Originally posted by SpabSFW
See, people can be honest~
**no offense ColWTH, but that is your stated position.
I'm just dumbfounded by it all..
SpabSFW 03-21-2004, 10:44 PM Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
I'm just dumbfounded by it all..
I'm not, but then I'm really cynical.
How is this an non issue?
I can see you saying "I don't care' on a personal level, but this strikes me as horribly hipocritical and dishonest at best. Bush doesnt' want US companies doing business there, but he will do it?
RedLine99 03-21-2004, 11:12 PM Originally posted by Manu
I can see you saying "I don't care' on a personal level, but this strikes me as horribly hipocritical and dishonest at best. Bush doesnt' want US companies doing business there, but he will do it?
Bush KNEW???
tryton 03-22-2004, 12:14 AM Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
We don't care! As long as it's our guy doing the lawbreaking!!! Too much..
His campaign site then BREAKS THE LAW by selling shirts made in Burma.
What law was broken?:scratch:
ColWTH 03-22-2004, 12:35 AM How can I take offense?
I really DON'T care about this issue. That was my honest opinion.
Sorry.
You also haven't proven Bush knew anything about this. Again, do you imagine he ordered the stuff personally?
So, now it matters if Bush knows or not? Is there no responsability for something he is representing and bearing his name?
Sinclair 03-22-2004, 07:48 AM And then he brings up Clinton. What Clinton has to do with this, I do not know.
drunken hearted man 03-22-2004, 10:13 AM Jesus Christ, Bush supporters abosultely refuse to assign responsibility to him for anything whatsoever. No acountability at all for anything. "Bush didn't order the stuff personally" So what the hell exactly IS Bush responsible for, if not his own re-election campaign?
"The Republicans are the party of self-sufficiency" LMAO
Sinclair 03-22-2004, 12:52 PM Remember: When someone criticizes Bush or the current US administration, it's partisanship.
When something bad about Bush or his campaign turns up, ColonelWTH doesn't care.
When someone criticizes Kerry or the Democrats, they're real Americans.
When something bad about Kerry or his campaign turns up, it's the most horrifying thing since, I dunno, sliced babies.
IllyaK 03-22-2004, 01:24 PM I don't see this as a big issue either.
There are much more important things going on than this one
tryton 04-23-2004, 05:40 PM Originally posted by Sinclair
4. Is this not breaking a law that Bush himself signed into law?
The law is against the import of the shirts. Bush's website did not do such a thing. If there were a law against the sale of products from Myanmar, then Bush's campaign would've broken the law. The responsibility rests with the company that imported them.
Additionally, the shirts were imported before the ban went into effect. Too bad that was buried in the article, though.
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