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Manu
03-17-2004, 06:13 PM
Should clearchannel have dropped Stern? Should the FCC 'do something' about Stern?

Is his show not appropriate for the air?

Corporate Avenger
03-18-2004, 02:50 AM
We should censor clearchannel from owning all the radio stations..

seekerofvisions
03-18-2004, 04:15 AM
what corporate avenger said with addition of: why did his show suddenly become an issue?

lily
03-18-2004, 04:27 AM
I don't know the details of what happened, so I can't comment on that, but personally I am happy they did it. Flame on. :P

seekerofvisions
03-18-2004, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by buttercup
I don't know the details of what happened, so I can't comment on that, but personally I am happy they did it. Flame on. :P

lol

i dont actually know either, but i do know that clearchannel owns just about every station available on the radio. so when you believe you are getting unbiased information, you really aren't.

igofast
03-18-2004, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by seekerofvisions
what corporate avenger said with addition of: why did his show suddenly become an issue?
Because some indecency bill was just passed that gives the FCC more power to give out fines and pretty much makes any broadcasting much more dangerous and susceptible to the FCC's rule.
Originally posted by buttercup
I don't know the details of what happened, so I can't comment on that, but personally I am happy they did it. Flame on. :P
I really don't care about Howard Stern, so he could get cancelled and it doesn't really effect my life. I do however find the whole issue as a serious problem. The FCC had more power than it needed already and our fantastic administration just gave them more.

The superbowl incident (nipplegate I guess they're calling it) was so incredibly unfortunate. I hated that it happened. But not because it exposed naked breast flesh. That I couldn't care less about. What was horrible is that it was inplied non-consensual exposing of a sexual body part. When you really have to get specific, it's pretty much implied rape. This is of course something that shouldn't be on TV.

Unfortunately it motivated a whole group of people that I fear to start voicing an opinion about decency on TV. This I of course agree with. Our kids shouldn't see a guy rip off a woman's bra, that is indecent. But no, instead of making that clear, they go waaaaay overboard and make anything above the 1st grade level indecent. Thus censorship.

It's st. patty's day. I'm a little drunk. I'm sorry if that didn't make complete sense.

lily
03-18-2004, 05:41 AM
No, actually you made sense. To me anyway. :p But when you say they went way overboard... can you give some examples? Sorry, I haven't been following this story. All I heard was that clearchannel dropped Howard Stern in a few places, which made me happy, although I'm not even sure what led to that.

igofast
03-18-2004, 12:58 PM
Stern was dumped from clear channel which aired his show on 6 stations before the indecency bill passed. The reason they gave was that he was too much of a liability to the station even though he hadn't incurred any fines from the FCC in quite a while. Then the indecency bill recently passed (last week I think).
A powerful House committee on Wednesday passed a bill aimed at squelching broadcast indecency after amending the measure to increase fines sharply from earlier versions of the legislation, reports Todd Shields.

Broadcasters would face fines of up to $500,000 and no limit on fines for repeated violations, under the bill passed on a bipartisan 49-to-1 vote by the Commerce Committee. Earlier versions of the measure envisioned a maximum fine of $275,000, which is 10 times the current limit, and a cap of $3 million for repeated violations
It basically means that all radio stations are going to make all their material G rated out of fear of being fined astronomical amounts. Some people may think "great, I don't want to hear filth like Stern on the radio." But our country isn't supposed to be like that.

I can't remember who to give credit for the quote, but remember this one:

I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.

Corporate Avenger
03-18-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by igofast
Stern was dumped from clear channel which aired his show on 6 stations before the indecency bill passed. The reason they gave was that he was too much of a liability to the station even though he hadn't incurred any fines from the FCC in quite a while. Then the indecency bill recently passed (last week I think).

It basically means that all radio stations are going to make all their material G rated out of fear of being fined astronomical amounts. Some people may think "great, I don't want to hear filth like Stern on the radio." But our country isn't supposed to be like that.

I can't remember who to give credit for the quote, but remember this one:

I may not disagree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.


Agreed 100%

Now it's Disney radio so nobody gets "offended"..

I agree with George Carlin about this kind of BS..

Criminal
03-18-2004, 05:15 PM
**** Censorship!

:mad:

Monster
03-18-2004, 05:47 PM
George Carlin's bit is perfect for this.

"The Federal Communications Commition declared that radio and television are the only two mediums of communication NOT protected by the free speech clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution.

I'd like to repeat that because it seems vaguely important...

The Federal Communications Commition declared that radio and television are the only two mediums of communication NOT protected by the free speech clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution..."

Clearchannel should be broken up by the anti-trust laws, but our current ******* of a president is so completely owned by the corporations that he'll never support a trust-buster.

That's what we get for allowing chicken ****s (from every political party, the majority of politicians are chicken ****s) into politics. :mad:

Stern should never have been taken off the air, the FCC should be disbanded and regulation should be left to a state, or even a city ruling, not nation wide.

Snouter
03-18-2004, 06:04 PM
I saw George Carlin on one of those shows late at night where a dude sits behind a desk and the crowd giggles in unison when cued. George has absolutely no humourous bone in his body. He just seemed like a hypocritical, bitter old man and attacked Mel "Gibberg's," as he called him, movie The Passion. So much for his stance on censorship.

We can thank the idoitic, no talent Jackson sister and that gay dude that pranced around with her on stage for the issue. I don't know how anyone can waste time listening to Stern when there are much more entertaining shows on the air like Phil Hendrie. It is amazing that a weird looking freak like Stern discussing Lesbians and anal sex actually interested people to begin with.

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302Riz
03-19-2004, 02:00 PM
Just to clear some things up...

Clear Channel dropped the Howard Stern Show before the indecency bill was passed.

The Stern show was dropped because of what a caller had said on the air. He said the N word and asked and interviewee an "indecent" question asking if the guest had sex with black women.

Thats what started this whole ordeal. Because of that the president of clear channel wilfully took Howard off the air even though the show didnt break any rules.

Clear channel is also a huge supporter of George Bush and has contributed loads of money to his campaigne.

206
03-20-2004, 04:17 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again:
If you don't like something, don't watch or listen to it.
Most of the public has a brain and is smart enough to avoid things they don't like. If you don't like Howard Stern, don't listen. If you don't like NYPD Blue, don't watch it.
It seems to me that, the people who are complaining, are those whom are listening.
:) :) :)

Midnight
03-20-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by 206
I have said this before and I will say it again:
If you don't like something, don't watch or listen to it.
Most of the public has a brain and is smart enough to avoid things they don't like. If you don't like Howard Stern, don't listen. If you don't like NYPD Blue, don't watch it.
It seems to me that, the people who are complaining, are those whom are listening.
:) :) :)

:werd: Nobody's forcing you to watch/listen to anything. I personally think that our country is way to uptight and "PC" oriented. So someone got offended. Boo hoo, life's not fair, suck it up and move on, we all take shots in life, so why baby people?

206
03-21-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Midnight
:werd: Nobody's forcing you to watch/listen to anything. I personally think that our country is way to uptight and "PC" oriented. So someone got offended. Boo hoo, life's not fair, suck it up and move on, we all take shots in life, so why baby people?
Being PC, in many cases is, IMO, not having the guts to speak your mind for fear of hurting some oversensitive clods' feelings.
People nowadays have too much of an agenda and should just learn to relax. I am big guy. If someone says that I am fat, I just tell to get lost. You don't like the way I am.....Get TF out!
No one's making you stay there.
:) :) :)

mike75
03-23-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by igofast
I can't remember who to give credit for the quote, but remember this one:

I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.

It was Voltaire and I am so pissed because I have spring break right now and ClearChannel took him off and that is the only thing I really like listening to in Pittsburgh in the morning. Now if I could only find where they put Jim Quinn in the Morning?

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