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jonnyofthedead
03-10-2004, 04:23 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1166063,00.html


Shortly before Germany's chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, flew to Washington for talks with George Bush last month, a journalist asked if he was going to say goodbye to the president ahead of the US elections in November. Mr Schröder's adviser grinned broadly before composing his face into a frown. "I won't speculate on that," he said.

Although Mr Schröder deliberately avoided the Democratic candidate, John Kerry, during his two-day trip to the US, there is little doubt that a Kerry victory would provoke rejoicing inside Germany's government, as it would in many other parts of Europe, as well as Asia, Africa and Latin America.

This week Mr Kerry claimed that foreign leaders had told him they could not publicly offer him their support but added: "You've got to beat this guy, we need a new policy."

t is difficult to assess the level of opposition to Mr Bush. When he put together a "coalition" for the war against Iraq last year he gathered just 43 countries - and it was an odd collection that included countries such as Azerbaijan, Eritrea and Uzbekistan, not normally in the forefront of international diplomacy.

He [Victor Bulmer-Thomas, director of Royal Institute for International Affairs, in London] said there was a difference between how a second Bush presidency was perceived by the "masses" - who wanted shot of Mr Bush in the belief there would be a return to a golden age - and the elite - who were not convinced there ever had been a golden age and leaned towards "better the devil you know".


For Kerry
Germany
France
Entire Arab world
Most of Latin America

Neutral/unknown
Britain
Russia
Israel
Iraq

For Bush
Spain
Italy
Pakistan
Azerbaijan
Eritrea
Uzbekistan

Powerboss
03-10-2004, 04:32 AM
I think its pretty clear that our enemies would like to see Kerry elected.
Its also clear that france and germay would love one of their own to be elected as he would cede our soveirgnty back over to the UN, france and germany while dismantling our military and intelligence agencies.
Of course, that may play well in Europe but not in the US. If I were the Kerry campaign, I'd keep the fact that france and germany want him elected very, very quiet.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
03-10-2004, 06:36 AM
Spain
Italy
Pakistan
Azerbaijan
Eritrea
Uzbekistan

With friends like that, who cares? :)

Von Apfelstrudel
03-10-2004, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Powerboss
I think its pretty clear that our enemies would like to see Kerry elected.


lololol

Cherry
03-15-2004, 10:27 PM
Strike Spain as of today :)

drunken hearted man
03-15-2004, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Powerboss
I think its pretty clear that our enemies would like to see Kerry elected.

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Of course, that may play well in Europe but not in the US. If I were the Kerry campaign, I'd keep the fact that france and germany want him elected very, very quiet.

Powerboss, are you trying to say that France and Germany are our enemies but Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Eritrea are our allies?

ColWTH
03-15-2004, 11:19 PM
france and Germany ARE our enemies (tho Germany less so).

france has been our enemy since the year 1800!

drunken hearted man
03-15-2004, 11:29 PM
Which country would you rather live in, ColWTH?

a) France
b) Germany
c) Uzbekistan
d) Pakistan
e) Saudi Arabia

And don't give me any of your dodgy flim-flammery non-answers. just pick a letter.

RedLine99
03-15-2004, 11:37 PM
Vote Cthulhu in 2004! Be among the last to get eaten!



yeah. finally a write in candidate that makes sense.:D

Patrician
03-15-2004, 11:50 PM
rofl, they forgot North Korea in the FOR KERRY section...gee wonder why?

ColWTH
03-16-2004, 12:49 AM
Which country would you rather live in, ColWTH?

a) France
b) Germany
c) Uzbekistan
d) Pakistan
e) Saudi Arabia

And don't give me any of your dodgy flim-flammery non-answers. just pick a letter.


Aw, MAN! The choices! THE PRESSURE!

Just a letter? Can I give follow up?

a) france- I vow to never capitalize france or french ever again. They do not deserve the respect of a proper noun. So "a" is OUT!
c) Uzbekistan- Is that near timbucktoo? I could never learn to spell this country with ease. So, "c" is OUT.
d) Pakistan- I would get fat on donuts and loose my mind trying to choose the many Quickie Marts to patronize.I guess "d" is out.
e) Saudi Arabia- I hate sand in my swim trunks. So, "e" is out... but having the chance to be a two faced, oil drenched, terrorist IS a big selling point. Maybe I should reconsider.

Sooooo. That leave b) Germany.

I guess I should look for a good Leederhooozen tailor somewhere? Do you think there is a good one in Chicago?

SSSCHNITXEL FOR EVERYONE!!!!

Eich ien a jelly donut.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
03-16-2004, 05:34 AM
Is that near timbucktoo? I could never learn to spell this country with ease.

It's not a country, Timbuktu is the capitol of Mali.

But since your german is even worse than your geography, it doesn't really matter.

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