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realreactionary
02-18-2004, 08:24 PM
The Bush administration is not controlled by "special interests." IT IS SPECIAL INTERESTS!

http://www.house.gov/georgemiller/bushinsiders.pdf

ColWTH
02-18-2004, 11:06 PM
I have always been perplexed by this foolish need to use “Special Interests” as a boogy man.

Please, DO show me one administration, one presidency, one era... HECK just one DAY... when the USA was not run by “Special Interests”? Go on. try it.

IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!

Ever read the Federalist Papers? It is replete with the discussion of special interests and their place at the table of American Constitutional government. Every single industry is a “Special Interest”. Every voting block is a “Special Interest”. Every STATE is a “Special Interest”!

Our nation is BUILT to run on “Special Interests”.

To pretend otherwise is misleading the American people into imagining that “Special Interests” are somehow anti-American.

Johnson
02-19-2004, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by ColWTH
Our nation is BUILT to run on “Special Interests”.


This is America's fundamental problem.

Corporate Avenger
02-19-2004, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by ColWTH
I have always been perplexed by this foolish need to use “Special Interests” as a boogy man.

Please, DO show me one administration, one presidency, one era... HECK just one DAY... when the USA was not run by “Special Interests”? Go on. try it.

IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!

Ever read the Federalist Papers? It is replete with the discussion of special interests and their place at the table of American Constitutional government. Every single industry is a “Special Interest”. Every voting block is a “Special Interest”. Every STATE is a “Special Interest”!

Our nation is BUILT to run on “Special Interests”.

To pretend otherwise is misleading the American people into imagining that “Special Interests” are somehow anti-American.


When the government is too busy performing sexual favors for "special interets", they lose focus of what's important, they don't do their job, and things like 9-11 happen because they either have more to gain by letting it or are too blind to see it coming.

The founding fathers did not want this country to one day be ruled by a elite cabal, you do, they didn't..

ColWTH
02-19-2004, 01:12 PM
.... Like you would know ANYTHING about what the founders wanted! Ha, don't make me laugh. You invoking the founders should be akin to a Communist discussing religion!

The founders are currently turning over in their graves over how powerful this Federal government is. The special interests only have as much power as they do BECAUSE government has even MORE!

Government has taken on so much power it does not rightfully deserve that the special interests are FORCED to spend themselves silly to get the favored treatment from government, a government that has the power (illegally as far as the founder were concerned) to destroy their business through intense regulation and spurious lawmaking.

Basically it is people like YOU who CAUSE the special interests to get so involved with government officials because you want government to get even more involved in the day to day life of every citizen.

Manu
02-19-2004, 05:15 PM
ColWTH=

You're right, they are all corporate *****s, and they all need to stop.

They are supposed to represent the people, not the people with money.

Corporate Avenger
02-20-2004, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by ColWTH
.... Like you would know ANYTHING about what the founders wanted! Ha, don't make me laugh. You invoking the founders should be akin to a Communist discussing religion!


As if you have the slightest clue what you're talking about, you vapid neo-conservative shill.:rolleyes:

If you think the current system is what they envisioned than your ignorance speaks for itself.



The founders are currently turning over in their graves over how powerful this Federal government is.


And they are also turning over in their graves at the collusion between big business and government, the revolving door between government and big business which exists to serve the interests of the elite and no one else.



The special interests only have as much power as they do BECAUSE government has even MORE!


LOL.. They have as much power as they do because they are the government, virtually every government agency is controlled by the businesses they are supposed to regulate. A classic case of the Fox guarding the Henhouse, corporatism. They also have their power because people keep voting for corrupt trash like Bush who serve the elite instead of serving the American people.



Government has taken on so much power it does not rightfully deserve that the special interests are FORCED to spend themselves silly to get the favored treatment from government, a government that has the power (illegally as far as the founder were concerned) to destroy their business through intense regulation and spurious lawmaking.


LOL. You are saying that special interests are "forced" to spend themselves silly to get "favored" treatment? When did they stop getting favored treatment? What planet do you live on?? :lol:

Compared to the enormous amounts of money these special interests have, what they spend on lobbying is a drop in the bucket, but far more than the average citizen can donate.

You talk as if the government is hostile to business interests, this shows you have no clue what you are talking about, the government is in bed with big business in this country. CEO's go from working for a fortune 500 company to working for the White house, and then back into the business world.



Basically it is people like YOU who CAUSE the special interests to get so involved with government officials because you want government to get even more involved in the day to day life of every citizen.


Did your nurse at the institution forget to administer you your drugs again?

People like me??? Your little rant doesn't even come close to making any sense.

I want the government to be as small as possible, and I want them out of the lives of private citizens.

You on the other hand fully support government intervention into our private lives. You 100% back the un-Constitutional Patriot act, the drug war, and jack booted police state tactics. You are a flaming hypocrite, if it was up to you everybody would have a camera in their bedroom to make sure they aren't practicing anything considered "immoral" by the self appointed fundamentalist Christian religious police like yourself.

So spare me your mindless bellowing...

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