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Powerboss
11-21-2003, 03:19 AM
Was this an Islamic Terror attack?

Was it brushed under the rug?

There are countless witnesses that had a lot to say but were ignored by the FBI.

Monster
11-21-2003, 03:43 AM
:confused:

I believe this happened long enough ago that I was largely uninterested in any news that did not affect my immediate plans.

Links?

Snouter
11-21-2003, 03:51 AM
TWA 800 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30697)

302Riz
11-21-2003, 08:23 AM
That happened near my Aunts house out in Center Moriches. A few witnesses said that they saw something hit the plane. Thats what they told FBI investigators.

They are covering up something. If it was a terrorist attack, we would have known about it already.

Kraw
11-21-2003, 11:55 AM
I suspect foul play, personally

Snouter
11-21-2003, 01:49 PM
Here is an article (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32009) regarding the Great Stain Maker's coverup of possible terrorism for political reasons by author of a book on TWA Flight 800.

Hannibal
11-21-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Force McCocken
That happened near my Aunts house out in Center Moriches. A few witnesses said that they saw something hit the plane. Thats what they told FBI investigators.

They are covering up something. If it was a terrorist attack, we would have known about it already.
I don’t think it was a terrorist attack personally too. If it was a terrorist attack, why would the government cover up something they could utilize as fuel to keep the current American people into a state of perpetual fear that they already have them in?

I’ve heard a rumor that the US Navy were test firing missiles around that area and that's what brought down the plane.

Ed Toner
11-21-2003, 04:47 PM
I'm a retired TWA Captain. I flew that very aircraft for my ATP rating checkride in Sept 1972. I lost a few friends in the crash.

I, and most of the pilots I know, reject the NTSB findings that a spark ignited the center fuel tank. Not one other of the 1,108 B-747's ever had a problem with it.

I was contacted by Jack Cashill several times. He, like most, like the missle theory. I find a bomb theory more logical.

The nose seperated from the fuselage at the same frame as PAA 003, which was downed by a bomb.

More later.

Nick
11-22-2003, 05:18 PM
Isnt there a high energy physics lab on Long Island, not too far from where the plane went down?

302Riz
11-22-2003, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by Nick
Isnt there a high energy physics lab on Long Island, not too far from where the plane went down?

Yes, Brookhaven National Labs

Monster
11-22-2003, 08:14 PM
You think it was a rogue smashed atom that crashed the plane?

Ed Toner
11-22-2003, 09:32 PM
I fail to see a connection to the Lab.

302Riz
11-23-2003, 09:43 AM
More than likely the Lab had nothing to do with it. They mostly deal with chemicals and particle accelerators.

Nick
11-24-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Stage Monster
You think it was a rogue smashed atom that crashed the plane?


Originally posted by Ed Toner
I fail to see a connection to the Lab.


Originally posted by 302Riz
More than likely the Lab had nothing to do with it. They mostly deal with chemicals and particle accelerators.


Well this is Conspiracy Theories, isnt it? Perhaps Brookhaven is ahead of schedule on its Free Electron Laser that it is planning on building, and someone decided to test it out on an airliner. That would explain why the Gov't isn't too interested in digging into the incident.
It was just an innocent question that involved me thinking out loud, no need to get your panties in a bunch:)

RedLine99
11-26-2003, 12:24 AM
I think if there had been a bomb then someone would have found some sort of residue or something. This could have been hidden by the govt for whatever reason.

Most of our air to air missles are "proximity" type = they explode before actually hitting the target and the fragments destroy it. Something would have shown up with this also. Although, I think a Stinger actually does explode on impact, but then again, you would have some "residue" and physical evidence.

Since the government "claims" not to have found any of this and as highly unlikely that there was a fuel tank explosion, well...what else copuld they say?

A small mercury device near the center fuel tank may have been possible and it would have been totally vaporized by the explosion.

Interesting that no one claimed responsibility for it though.

Ed Toner
11-26-2003, 07:28 AM
The Stinger is a heat seeker and would have flown up a tailpipe.

Also, not very effective above 10,000'.

Court action.

Well, Good Folks, time for another TWA800 update on this 25th day of November, 2003.



We filed the bulk of our paper work on November 14th. It consisted of the motion (38 pages) plus the affidavits with their associated exhibits (356 pages). In addition, we submitted video tapes of several interviews. The motion and part of the affidavits are posted on our website, http://webpages.charter.net/raylahr (our website only holds 10 mb). However, the whole document will soon be posted on Bob Donaldson's website, www.TWA800.com , and there will also be a direct link from our website to the documentation on Bob's website.



I believe that if you scan through this document, you will be astounded by all of the good work done by a large group of dedicated people. I also believe that you will be convinced, as I am, that a missile or missiles brought down TWA800.



We hope these documents will also convince Judge A. Howard Matz. There is one caveat about the hearing. In the opinion of my attorney, John Clarke, the final decision will not be made at the December 15th, 2003, hearing. John indicates that there are some preliminary decisions to be made at the December 15th hearing which will delay the final decision to a second hearing at a later date. So while we encourage and welcome the attendance of our friends to the December 15th hearing (particularly those within reasonable travel distance), we must advise those planning an expensive trip from a long distance that they should consider waiting for the final hearing. Once again, it is 10:00 a.m. at the Federal Courthouse, Courtroom 14, 300 N. Spring Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012. The Federal Courthouse is in the Los Angeles Civic Center between Main Street. and Spring Street, and it abuts the south side of the 101 freeway. It is about two blocks from the Los Angeles City Hall and the Union Train Station. The Courtroom is on the Spring Street level. If you enter from Main Street, you will go up one floor.



I am sending these TWA800 updates to everyone on my email list so that I don't miss anyone. Please let me know if you prefer not to receive future updates. Thanks for the support from all of you. Have a good Thanksgiving.

Ray Lahr
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Corporate Avenger
11-26-2003, 09:13 AM
I think it was shot downb by a Navy missile, all the evidence seems to prove so, and the governments secrecy and strange doing sure makes it believable.

Ed Toner
11-26-2003, 09:48 AM
CA- NEGATIVE! What evedence?

Corporate Avenger
11-26-2003, 10:13 AM
The hundred plus witnesses that saw a streak of light hit the plane, the fact that no other 747 has just blown up in mid air (I've been on a 747 that was hit by Lightning which blew one of the engines and I'm still here). The Navy training going on in the area, the FBI secrecy surrounding the case, and other things that I don't have time for now.


What do you think brought it down??

Ed Toner
11-26-2003, 11:59 AM
CA - I don't recall the exact numbers, but something like 70 witnesses said they saw this streak, but the other 600 witnesses did not.

I think it was a bomb like the one that brought down PA 003 over Lockerbie.

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