Many of us conspiracy theorists know that Project MK Ultra was found to have no conclusive results.

Mostly, this post is a placeholder while I hunt down more stuff, but here's a few things:


The CIA used LSD on unsuspecting civilians to see if astral projection could be harnessed for a new generation of spies.
LSD was developed by the CIA, and was developed for the specific purpose of inducing hallucinations.
Not all of these hallucinations were hallucinations. Some people were able to report visions that were accurate.
No evidence was ever found to prove that the individuals who accurately reported had ever seen or had knowledge of the information they reported.
MK Ultra was discontinued.


And now, off to find links!

From here: (http://www.mindspring.com/~txporter/sec3.htm)

- Hypnosis, drugs, and psycho-surgery; separately and combined, were the tools of this quest for the ultimate truth serum on the one hand, and the capability to create an agent who could not have his or her mission tortured out of them, or even be aware that they were carrying secret information given to them in an altered state of consciousness. More and more sophisticated drugs were experimented with, such as LSD, Ketamine, and Psilocybine. Lobotomy and the implantation of electrodes were considered as methods for creating a compliant agent. Electro-Convulsive Shock, combined with LSD, sedation for days at a time, and constantly replaying the patient’s own voice through helmet-mounted headphones was a notorious Canadian researcher’s recipe for mind control.

- One of the most remarkable cases of mind control involves a famous model of the late 40's and 50's named Candy Jones. In the book, "The Control of Candy Jones" the author reviewed hours of tapes made by Candy Jones and her husband which revealed a systematic program to create and manipulate alter personalities as the foundation for programmed couriers resistant to torture, where the primary personality would not even be aware of the secret information being carried. The information could be summoned forth via a post-hypnotic command or response to a pre-programmed cue.

- Research continued into early 70's by CIA's own admission during the Church hearings.

- There have been persistent rumors of Navy research involving attempts at telepathy from submarines under water, the Nautilus being the most famous of these.


History House: LSD and the CIA (http://www.historyhouse.com/in_history/lsd/)


Martin A. Lee and Bruce Shlain report in their Acid Dreams: The CIA, LSD, and the Sixties Rebellion, that by 1953, the CIA had authorized project MK-ULTRA, designed to perfect mind-control drugs during the Cold War.

Conceived by Richard Helms of the Clandestine Services Department (yes, the CIA actually gives its departments silly names like that), it went beyond the construction of mere truth serums and ventured into disinformation, induction of temporary insanity, and other chemically-aided states. The director of MK-ULTRA, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, figured LSD's potential as an interrogative agent paled in comparison to its capacity to publicly humiliate.

Anyway, not to be outdone by the CIA, the Army Chemical Corps later came up with quinuclidinyl benzilate, or BZ, coined a super-hallucinogen. It affected individuals for three days, "although symptoms - headaches, giddiness, disorientation, auditory and visual hallucinations, and maniacal behavior - have been known to persist for as long as six weeks." Yipes!

There's more, but I'll space it out. :)

Originally posted by Stage Monster

LSD was developed by the CIA, and was developed for the specific purpose of inducing hallucinations.



I believe LSD was developed by a dutch chemist. Perhaps I am wrong though

Post WWII, there was a lot of bizarre experimentation, a lot of it carried out by former Nazi scientists who were given asylum.

I need to do more reading into LSD and the CIA, but I couldn't be suprised one bit.

The Pentagon and defense agencies as a whole were quite curious to look into remote viewing and other forms of 'advanced thought.'

Yea, the CIA abducted homeless people, tested LSD on them...I bet the govt. still abducts homeless people and tests chemical and biological weapons on them.

Originally posted by Stage Monster
LSD was developed by the CIA, and was developed for the specific purpose of inducing hallucinations.


Thats not true, but they sure did experiment with it after its invention.

Well, actually after reading this over again, the CIA did develop LSD farther, so i guess that is correct.

Just to state, I was not listing facts in that 1st post, but points of the conspiracy theory surrounding MK-Ultra.

Originally posted by Kareem
...I bet the govt. still abducts homeless people and tests chemical and biological weapons on them.

I wish they would get more of those bums off the streets. :p

Anyone see this movie?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0792838289.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Yea, a min. wage job would help.. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Nick


I believe LSD was developed by a dutch chemist. Perhaps I am wrong though A swiss chemist by the name of Hoffman in 1945.

The CIA experimented on mentally ill people in psychiatric hospitals, military personall, prison inmates and others.

Among the subjects of the experiments were Ken Kesley, who wrote One Flew Over the CooCoo's Nest.

LSD was a legal drug until 1967.

Originally posted by Snouter


I wish they would get more of those bums off the streets. :p

Anyone see this movie?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0792838289.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
I did and it kicked ass. Probibly the best movie on brain washing ever made.

One interesting fact, Lawrence Harvey was one year younger than Angela Langsbury who played his mother in the movie.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Criminal
A swiss chemist by the name of Hoffman in 1945.

The CIA experimented on mentally ill people in psychiatric hospitals, military personall, prison inmates and others.

Among the subjects of the experiments were Ken Kesley, who wrote One Flew Over the CooCoo's Nest.

LSD was a legal drug until 1967. [/QUOTE

I dont believe the Ken Kesley was a test subject of the CIA, I believe he was just someone who tripped on acid and wrote books. Ken Kesley also had shock therapy done on himself, so perhaps he is not a CIA test subject

Originally posted by Criminal
A swiss chemist by the name of Hoffman in 1945.



My mistake, I thought he was dutch.