Nice guys finish last?? well, in my experience they sure do..

I have had two girls that I have "dated" in the last year. Both of which I treated very well, after we got passed getting to know each other. Don't think I treated them before hand.. just didn't want to scare them..

It got to the point in the relationship where I would take them (seperately of coarse) out on a date.. bring flowers, come pick them up.. pay for everything, hold doors, open car doors, the whole nine yards.. and got crapped on at the end..

truethfully girls want that.. but I think girls may want that from a "bad guy" trying to change him more or less.. the "chivalrous" man that has been mentioned in here is borring to girls.. and guys who treat them bad are interesting and exciting.. well I give up on the whole dating thing.. I quit.. they can date whoever they want.. I am not going to treat a girl bad.. no girl deserves that..

my mom taught me to be a gentlemen to all girls, and that is what I have been trying to do.. not always do I do it.. but I am a momma's boy, and want to make her proud.. I think I will find that special one someday, and it will be more than worthe it.. but as for now.. no more dating girls that don't respect me..

thanks for listening..
*first time poster*

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95 Mustang Gt. .. .. wait wait, wrong web site. : )

Piece of advice . . . find a girl who's been through the crapper over some scumbag guy. Treat her nicely. Show her how things COULD be. That works. Just make sure the intentioned woman is smart enough to know the difference and is worthy of a long term relationship.

Oh, and there's NOTHING wrong with having a little edge around women. I mean, don't be boring or complacent. Make them work a little bit. It keeps things interesting.

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Go ahead and call Cosmo "Chief" and Bill is "Fearless Leader" . . . I'm HAPPILY "Minister of Spanking"!!

Famous Last Words:
Socrates - "I drank WHAT?"

Originally posted by D Durden:
Oh, and there's NOTHING wrong with having a little edge around women. I mean, don't be boring or complacent. Make them work a little bit. It keeps things interesting.



oh I agree with that totally.. if everything was easy all the time.. it would get old fast.. that has happen to me..

in order for you to enjoy a roller coaster it has to go up and down right?? it would be no fun if it just went up.. you do have to work at a relationship.. and that is what makes it special.. but most girls just want the guy to like them after that.. it's on to the next one


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95 Mustang Gt. .. .. wait wait, wrong web site. : )

Oh man, have I been there.

Really it is important to just go with it and keep on going.

Try not to get too attached until you see something 'more' there.

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Originally posted by Manu:
Oh man, have I been there.

Really it is important to just go with it and keep on going.

Try not to get too attached until you see something 'more' there.



yeah deffiently.. and yesterday was a break threw day.. I was actually very attracted to another girl.. a friend of mine netherless.. very attracted.. I haven't been attracted to a girl and been like this in a while.. not bad considering it happened like 2 weeks ago..

won't get into all that.. but atleast I know there is "more fish in the sea"



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95 Mustang Gt. .. .. wait wait, wrong web site. : )

There are some guys that can do nothing wrong, and others that can do nothing right.

I gave up pursuing women out of sheer frustration, amongst other things. I was told by many that if I paid them no mind, they would flock to me. Bzzt, try again. They now seem to think I'm gay because I'm not ogling them & kissing their ass. That's assuming they notice me at all.

To hell with 'em. It's still an improvement over the way things were before. I used to make a good effort, and not get any. I still don't get any, but at least I'm not wasting my time trying.

Originally posted by Dest98:
To hell with 'em. It's still an improvement over the way things were before. I used to make a good effort, and not get any. I still don't get any, but at least I'm not wasting my time trying.

witty! oh god i laughed out loud on that one- good for you for putting your time towards more fulfilling pursuits, like writing posts about the "nice guy blues."

i guess it's just hard for me to sympathize because i don't get treated to the "nice guy" way of life. i think it's the weird college scene- either you're a one night stand or virtually married- not much room for the casual dating, flowers, and a dinner thing.

I wouldn't give up on women, i'd just inject some sarcasm into your language, which is an intersting tool: you can interact with women while still keeping your "i'm a nice guy who wants to rub your feet forever" spirit to yourself for unveiling when appropriate.



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Je t'adore! ruff ruff

Dating is the worst. I hate it. I am fortunate to have had many great girl friends though so to be honest, I never had a lot of time to be lonely. I always played the role of bad guy to some degree. I was a musician, I motorcyclist, an urban survivor, ect. But to my gf I have always been honest, sincere and faithful. I dont ness put them on a pedistal and kiss their ass either. I tell them straight up, I dont play the mind games and Im not into control. That means do screw with my head and dont try to (excuse the expression) pussy-whip me and I will return the favor. Women I know want to be treated as equals, partners, people, not bells or whores for that matter. Bottom line, be yourself, and dont go looking for love, it will always find you.

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Winner of the "peoples Choice award" for supreme advocate for the people!

I'm not "always right", it just seems that way

Spelling is for kids! I think you got the point!

in my experience, most girls want what they cant have. if a guy is married, maybe they want him. If you DONT give attention, they want your attention. something to try.

When I was married, 3 girls I was around now and again did everything but wait for me on my desk naked.

The DAY the divorce was final, they ignored me.

Inexperienced (or immature) women want a) what they can't have and b) EVERYTHING! :L0L!

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Go ahead and call Cosmo "Chief" and Bill is "Fearless Leader" . . . I'm HAPPILY "Minister of Spanking"!!

Famous Last Words:
Socrates - "I drank WHAT?"

I too agree that the nice guys finish last....but they still finish.

I consider myself a "nice guy"....once you get to know me. I have more people tell me I come across as an @sshole the firs time they meet me...but I'm really not, imho. REALLY http://discussanything.com/Ubb/biggrin.gif
Yep, I hold doors open for women, let them in the car first and shut the door behind them (with out catching their leg in it http://discussanything.com/Ubb/biggrin.gif ), pay for them on a date, bring/send flowers....if the relationship goes on, I try and do little things to make them feel special and like a lady....

But, you all have seen what that got me....a divorce.

Not saying that I am Mr. Perfect by any means....but I like to think that I will be a pretty good catch for the future Mrs. Copeland....

The way I look at it....I'm 28....I'm pretty much set in my ways as far as how I treat someone I'm interested/care for....women can either take it, appreciate it, and enjoy it (but know when to return the feelings....or they can go and dig around the septic tank and get treated in the sub-standard way they must prefer....

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I do what ever my Rice Krispys tell me to...

Hehehehehe . . . hey Jester . . . when rolling around on a bed with 3 or 4 hotties, sometimes is BEST to "finish last" . . . LMAO!!!!

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Go ahead and call Cosmo "Chief" and Bill is "Fearless Leader" . . . I'm HAPPILY "Minister of Spanking"!!

Famous Last Words:
Socrates - "I drank WHAT?"

Well, if the day ever comes where I'm rolling around in a bed with 3-4 hotties....I don't know if "finishing last" would even be an option....lol.....

be lucky to finish in anything longer than 20 seconds....LOL



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I do what ever my Rice Krispys tell me to...

Well, if you can get more than three, then you can slip out in the ruckus and get a drink . . . sorta' like Bugs does with Taz.

They don't start missing you for 10 or 15 minutes. Heck, sometimes they don't miss you at all, so, when you return, they think there's ANOTHER guy joining in! LMAO!!!

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Go ahead and call Cosmo "Chief" and Bill is "Fearless Leader" . . . I'm HAPPILY "Minister of Spanking"!!

Famous Last Words:
Socrates - "I drank WHAT?"

I utilize the ******* angle to great effect. I just present myself as supremely confident and vain and the girls dig it. If they express interest in you be nice to them at first, then once youve snagged em try to tease and shock them as much as possible. Works for me, I gots more women than i know what to do with.

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"He could not plead want of employment, nor incapacity of getting his bread in an honest way, but frankly own'd it was to get rid of the disagreeable superiority of some masters he was acquainted with and the love of novelty and change."

William Defoe on Bartholomew Roberts career of piracy