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Criminal
12-16-2001, 10:41 PM
Alexander the Great
Plato
Aristotle
King David, Loved his brother-in-law Jonathan. It has often been disputed whether or not his love was indeed sexual.
Trajan, great Roman emporer who was said to enjoy the favors of young boys.
St. Augustine of Hippo, early Christian theologian who said "Give me chastidy....but not yet". Lived a very unchaste life as a youth. His Confessions reveal that he may have had relations with men and women alike.
Michealangelo, was said to have had affairs with male models, including the model for his "David"
Leonardo Di Vinci.
William Shakesphere, A real puzzle here. We know he never married. His writings were quite revealing. Little was taboo in his works.His characters often dressed across the gender line.
Peter the Great, was a brutal leader but Russians like that trait in a leader. Was thought by many to be bi sexual.
Baron Van Clausowicz, Prussian General who helped train George Washington's army.
Alexander Hamilton, The first Tresurer of the United States.
Oscar Wilde, Irish born writer. Was convicted of a homosexual affair. Probibly had many more.
Sir Edward Lawerence, "Lawerence of Arabia". Famous brittish adventurer was though by some to be gay, thought others said he was not. Did write in his biography about homosexuality among desert bedouins.

Source: Peoples almanac

Thutmose
12-16-2001, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Criminal
William Shakesphere, A real puzzle here. We know he never married. His writings were quite revealing. Little was taboo in his works.His characters often dressed across the gender line.


Shakespeare did marry. He married Anne Hathaway in 1582, they had three kids: Susanna, Judith, and Hamnet.

Criminal
12-17-2001, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Thutmose


Shakespeare did marry. He married Anne Hathaway in 1582, they had three kids: Susanna, Judith, and Hamnet.
I stand corrected. Evedently the editors of the Peoples Almanac were misinformed.:o

CodyChaos
12-17-2001, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Thutmose


Shakespeare did marry. He married Anne Hathaway in 1582, they had three kids: Susanna, Judith, and Hamnet.

Yea but he could still be GAY.

Snouter
12-17-2001, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Thutmose
Shakespeare did marry. He married Anne Hathaway in 1582, they had three kids: Susanna, Judith, and Hamnet.

Yes. What is interesting is that Ignatius Donnelly declared it unbelievable that since Shakespere did not have much of a library and, if he wrote the plays, would not have permitted his own daughter Judith to reach adulthood without being able to read and write. She was illiterate.

Francis Bacon was highly regarded as an intellectual and literary genius at the time, edited the King James Bible and was more likely to be the author of the plays. The 1640 portrait of Francis Bacon is apparently identical to the portrait that appeared on the first four folios attributable to Shakespere in 1623.

...Ignatius Donnelly, of Minnesota, announces that he has discovered in the Shakespeare plays a curiously interwoven cipher narrative which proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that there was never a man as we all imagine William Shakespeare to have been; that the plays which all the world unites in placing at the head of the world's literature were written by Francis Bacon, England's great jurist and philosopher; that they were produced by Bacon in order to "keep the wolf from the door," and at the same time to inculcate doctrines which his political aspirations and his regard for his own personal safety prevented him from proclaiming publicly over his own name, and that they were sold to, and published under the name of a comparatively ignorant play-acter and theatre manager. The cipher narrative, which Donnelly unravels out of the first complete edition of the plays, printed in 1623, also discloses other startling facts, and is in fact a secret of that eventful period which is known as the Elizabethan era.

The book in which Mr. Donnelly makes public his discovery, was issued in 1888, and its title is "The Great Cryptogram: Francis Bacon's Cipher in Shakespeare's Plays."

Aphasia
12-17-2001, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Criminal
Were these people gay?

Does it really matter? I've heard that James Dean was, too, along with a list and a half of other people.
Coming next...a list of famous people's fetishes...

Shadowhawk
12-17-2001, 02:48 AM
I'm with Aph here. I see gay groups trying to say everybody famous was at least bi, and I see anti-gay groups doing just the opposite. Who the flamin heck cares! It's their life, let them live theirs and follow your own beliefs whatever they are w/o forcing them on others.

Thutmose
12-17-2001, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by CodyChaos


Yea but he could still be GAY.

He could still be gay, and as Aphasia said that really has nothing to do with anything. I was just merely correcting the facts in the People's Almanac.

James
12-17-2001, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Aphasia


Does it really matter? I've heard that James Dean was, too, along with a list and a half of other people.
Coming next...a list of famous people's fetishes...

Does it matter? Not to me. But I'm anxiously awaiting the "fetish list", to see with which famous people I share fetish affinities. :D

ChaoticThoughts
12-17-2001, 03:20 PM
All that matters to me, is that Shakesphere smoked pot.

92Notch
12-17-2001, 06:26 PM
There's no doubt that some of the people on the list are (were) gay if not all of them.

Criminal
12-18-2001, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by Aphasia


Does it really matter? I've heard that James Dean was, too, along with a list and a half of other people.
Coming next...a list of famous people's fetishes...
I think my next list will be famous peeping toms

Criminal
12-21-2001, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by Aphasia


Does it really matter? I've heard that James Dean was, too, along with a list and a half of other people.
Coming next...a list of famous people's fetishes...
Well if you really need to know why this is important I would say because it illustrates the point that homosexuality has been in this world since the beginning and that gay people do live productive lives. I think its important for us to remember this because there are so many people who continue to bash gays and we do need to be reminded that just because someone is different doesnt mean that they are not good people.

Brian
12-21-2001, 09:31 AM
Of course homosexuality has been around for a long time. Just ask the folks who resided in Sodom and Gomora (sp?)...

jwreck
12-21-2001, 10:58 AM
Last I heard they still aren't even sure who Shakespeare was. No, I don't tink it amounts to a bucket of piss who was gay throughout history.

ResidentRice
12-22-2001, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Shadowhawk
I'm with Aph here. I see gay groups trying to say everybody famous was at least bi, and I see anti-gay groups doing just the opposite. Who the flamin heck cares! It's their life, let them live theirs and follow your own beliefs whatever they are w/o forcing them on others.



Hear hear. I knew there was a reason I liked you. Nothing more to the debate, really. All of those overly conservative people claiming that gays are ruining the moral structure of the country and causing their children to become weirdos need to rethink some things.

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