You are a dumbass who contributes nothing but friction to this board. You have no couth and do not understand how to talk to people in a reasonable manner. I for one am sick to death of you attacking the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. An attack on someone is not a rebuttal. This is discuss anything, but I have yet to see you discuss anything at all. You make statements and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Why don't you take your ass back to wherever it is you came from.

Originally posted by jwreck
You are a dumbass who contributes nothing but friction to this board. You have no couth and do not understand how to talk to people in a reasonable manner. I for one am sick to death of you attacking the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. An attack on someone is not a rebuttal. This is discuss anything, but I have yet to see you discuss anything at all. You make statements and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Why don't you take your ass back to wherever it is you came from.

DING DING DING.

In thise corner wearing the purple trousers weighing in at 454lbs... :-)

Remember guys, what happens in fight club stays in fight club.

FIGHT

Originally posted by Manu


DING DING DING.

In thise corner wearing the purple trousers weighing in at 454lbs... :-)

Remember guys, what happens in fight club stays in fight club.

FIGHT Damn, I need to go on a diet!!

And in the other corner...?

Originally posted by jwreck
And in the other corner...?

It would appear we have a no show... :D

ladies and gentlemen...


"let's get ready to rumble..."

or my personal fav.

"Let's get it on.."

Originally posted by jwreck
You are a dumbass who contributes nothing but friction to this board. You have no couth and do not understand how to talk to people in a reasonable manner. I for one am sick to death of you attacking the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. An attack on someone is not a rebuttal. This is discuss anything, but I have yet to see you discuss anything at all. You make statements and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Why don't you take your ass back to wherever it is you came from.

You're disgusting. All of those accusations are fabrications and lies. You obviously fabricated all your evidence and are in on the grand conspiracy to fry Mymommyia.

And don't BOTHER copy/pasting what I wrote, because you falsified the source, anyway. You're useless evidence and witnesses mean nothing because you're a liar and a racist and obviously evil.

:p

ROFLMAO! Sounds like an accurate portrayal to me Dave:D:D:D

Well, he didnt have anything to say of value the entire time he was at RATM. But his useless messages do not get lost in the pile like in Ratm.

Originally posted by jwreck
You are a dumbass who contributes nothing but friction to this board. You have no couth and do not understand how to talk to people in a reasonable manner. I for one am sick to death of you attacking the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. An attack on someone is not a rebuttal. This is discuss anything, but I have yet to see you discuss anything at all. You make statements and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Why don't you take your ass back to wherever it is you came from.
I doubt if he ever comes here to the fight club. You might send him a message in the Political Debate. I believe that is the only place he goes.

Originally posted by Criminal

I doubt if he ever comes here to the fight club. You might send him a message in the Political Debate. I believe that is the only place he goes.
Tried that already. He's just a bitch.

He already left him a challenge at the beginning of a new Mumia thread Rob tried to start. That was about a week ago. Guess our boy assed out:D

LOL! Looks like J & I were posting this at the same time. Oh well, its a free post:D

I would say that Rob was the bigger man for not responding to this flame fest. Its one thing to have a grievence with somebody but entirely another to stoop to call them hurtful names. I think it shows real lack of charactor. Personally I dont know mush about either jwreck OR Rob but judiing on what I see in this thread, Rob would be invited to a party of mine before J.

Originally posted by Fordman50
I would say that Rob was the bigger man for not responding to this flame fest. Its one thing to have a grievence with somebody but entirely another to stoop to call them hurtful names. I think it shows real lack of charactor. Personally I dont know mush about either jwreck OR Rob but judiing on what I see in this thread, Rob would be invited to a party of mine before J.

C'mon Ian, you must have totally forgotten what this forum is all about. It is specifically for airing grievances and disagreements between members. As a mod here, you should know this. Besides, you of all people are one to sit back and criticise someone for flamings others with some of the insults and crap you've typed in the past.

Brian, I never liked the idea of a fight forum since day one but thats just my opinion. Also, I draw the line at name calling, always have.

Originally posted by Fordman50
I would say that Rob was the bigger man for not responding to this flame fest. Its one thing to have a grievence with somebody but entirely another to stoop to call them hurtful names. I think it shows real lack of charactor. Personally I dont know mush about either jwreck OR Rob but judiing on what I see in this thread, Rob would be invited to a party of mine before J. Have you not been to the political forum lately? All Rob does is attack people and call them names. Gee, I think I said that in the first post of this thread. Do I really need to cut and paste his posts for you? I thought you were more observant than that. Besides, is your name Rob from Philly? If not, then I don't believe you were invited to this argument in the first place.

Originally posted by Fordman50
Brian, I never liked the idea of a fight forum since day one but thats just my opinion.

Guess it's a good thing for the rest of us who DO like this forum that you are not the owner, huh... Beside, for someone who didn't like the idea of the Fight Club, you sure have used it...


Originally posted by Fordman50
Also, I draw the line at name calling, always have.

Originally posted by Fordman50
What is up with the freak show that is Walmart? Every one I go to have bearded ladies, 2 foot tall men, 800 pound kids, toothless women, and mullets gallore, even on the chicks! Last time I brought this up on SN I got labeled an elitist. I come from about as poor a family as they get but they have education and good taste at least. These inbreads look worse than the knuckle draggers who come out of the woods for the state fair!

And there was NO name calling in this thread? C'mon, while you didn't actually call ONE individual any names, there sure as hell are some inflammatory remarks in here, toward groups of people, that's every bit as bad as name calling. Better get a grip on yourself, Ian.

Well, its not the public forum he's afraid of. I've even sent him PMs and still no answer.:confused:

You're all just a bunch of Mumia haters :D

Originally posted by Dest98
You're all just a bunch of Mumia haters :D


Damned skippy! LOL! :D:D:D

Maybe, and this is just a wild guess, Rob did not see the point in cruising over here to get pointless childish abuse? Msybe he doesn't give a **** if some person he'll never meet detests him...

So, what you're saying is Rob will continue his pattern of insulting those who disagree with him (reguardless of of the intellectual content of the dissent), will keep posting useless commentary and un-provable information regarding the ongoing case of a convicted cop-killer.

Hmmm, if he was half the person you say he is, he would not be attacking those who disagrees with him in an intellectual manner. As your own 'debate manners' thread indicates proper edicate for internet debate, Rob uses virtually none, yet you are a supporter of his (at least you two agree on the Mummia subject and you have come to his defense on this thread).

Ok I can't stay quiet on this anymore...

Have you not seen the constant insults from the anti Mumia crowd? Why do you gloss that over? Rob isn't the only one.

And you say he's a "convicted cop killer' as if you know that to be the absolute truth. Have you ever researched the case yourself to see how ****ed up it was? How about the people murdered by police? How come nobody ever cries for justice for those people?

Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
Have you not seen the constant insults from the anti Mumia crowd? Why do you gloss that over? Rob isn't the only one.

I'm sure SmilingJack (mod) is in over his ears with all of the stuff that goes on in the war-zone. He's doing a great job but I'm sure it's tough. If any of you guys (pro or not-pro mumia) feel that others get out of line, either bring em in here to fight it out, or report them to a mod. Abuse won't be tolerated in the forums and if it gets too crazy, we're gonna have to do something about it.

And guys, this mumia is just a guy. Whether he's guilty or not, he's still alive and stuff. There's millions of others that die needlessly or innocently. Why is this so terribly important that you would fight over it so badly. Why can't we all just get along?

Because the Mumia thing really represents those who think all gov't, police, military are bad and all who don't. Kind of Freedom versus the commies if you will. Good guys versus bad guys.

That Mumia is a convicted cop killer is a fact. No one here would defend cops who murder,( not that I know of anyway)and not all cops who kill are murderers, as you would have us believe.

Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
Ok I can't stay quiet on this anymore...

Nobody asked you to in the first place.


Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
Have you not seen the constant insults from the anti Mumia crowd? Why do you gloss that over? Rob isn't the only one.

I will not defend those who draw first blood, so to speak. But, in most of the posts I have read, Rob starts the insult wars.

Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
And you say he's a "convicted cop killer' as if you know that to be the absolute truth.

This is the truth. Mumia WAS convicted of murder. Slant the issue all you want, this DID happen


Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
Have you ever researched the case yourself to see how ****ed up it was?

All I have read is the postings going on here. ALL of which is heresay. NOTHING from any CREDIBLE witnesses. After seeing all of the BS going on here with statements like "your ignorant" or "that was a fabrication" and the ever popular "You're a liar," I don't care to research it any better. If the Mumia supporters can't argue the facts any better than that, I don't want to waste my time.


Originally posted by Corporate Avenger
How about the people murdered by police? How come nobody ever cries for justice for those people?

Like who? Timothy Thomas? The black man who was shot in Cincinnati by officer Steven Roache? Yeah he deserved a cry for justice. As I recall you and freedom had all kinds of stuff to say about that case, and none of it credible either. Or any of the 9 (of 14) others who drew and fired first?

How about people who deserve REAL cries for justice, like the trucker in California was was drug out of his truck and beaten during the Rodney King debacle. Or the family of O.J.'s ex-wife, or Ron Goldman's family? Maybe the white couple in Cincy driving back from a movie only to have a brick thrown thru thier windshield during the Cincy? What did they do to deserve that? I'll back cries for justice for ANY of these folks long before I will Mumia. UNLESS you can find CREDIBLE evidence, not from someones aunts brothers best friends cousin who saw a firend who said she saw what happened through a pair of binoculars from 3 River's Statium (and yes, I am aware this happened in Philly and not Pittsburg).

Originally posted by jwreck
You are a dumbass who contributes nothing but friction to this board. You have no couth and do not understand how to talk to people in a reasonable manner. I for one am sick to death of you attacking the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. An attack on someone is not a rebuttal. This is discuss anything, but I have yet to see you discuss anything at all. You make statements and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Why don't you take your ass back to wherever it is you came from.

Well said, and still no response....

Maybe he's in jail???:D

Originally posted by JoeyNormal
Maybe, and this is just a wild guess, Rob did not see the point in cruising over here to get pointless childish abuse? Msybe he doesn't give a **** if some person he'll never meet detests him... OK, number one, I'm not here to abuse him. I want some answers as to why he can't ever actually debate something. Is that so wrong? As I already stated, he knows how to trade insults in the regular forum, why not bring it here and do it free from moderation? The fact is he knows I'm right and can't defend himself against the truth.

Originally posted by jwreck
You are a dumbass who contributes nothing but friction to this board. You have no couth and do not understand how to talk to people in a reasonable manner. I for one am sick to death of you attacking the intelligence of anyone who doesn't agree with you. An attack on someone is not a rebuttal. This is discuss anything, but I have yet to see you discuss anything at all. You make statements and then attack anyone who doesn't agree. Why don't you take your ass back to wherever it is you came from.

Originally posted by jwreck
I'm not here to abuse him. I want some answers as to why he can't ever actually debate something.

Those two don't fit together at all well....

[edit=****ed up aquote]

Don't see the contradiction. I stated my grievances. If you see that as abuse then so be it. Besides, why can't he speak for himself instead of you fighting his battles for him? BTW CA, this has nothing to do with Mumia. If Rob was anti Mumia I would still feel the same about him.

I'm not fighting his battles, I'm not defending him against your barbs, rather pointing out why he may not want to defend himself...

If you were just pointing out that he may not want to defend himself here, you simply would have done so & left it at that...

Except JWreck rubbished my point, so I replied.

OK, that's fair:)

Originally posted by hammegk


Well said, and still no response....

Maybe he's in jail???:D Nah, he's still cluttering up the political forum with MORE crap about Mumia.

I will attempt to proffer the answer here.

Rob won't come in here. He doesn't want to take the focus away from what he is trying to get across. He doesn't usually get into debates per se, which I don't like, he just posts information, mostly.

I feel if you are going to post something on these boards you should be ready to back it up. I am not a fan of the post and run technique. On others boards Rob usually avoids threads that "call him out" I know I've done it plenty in the past. It gets under my skin. I guess that makes his posts effective though. If his posts get me that fired up he most be doing something right.

I will give Rob credit. He's devoted to Mumia's cuase. I misinformed as I think he is you can't take that away from him.

While exploring my board options I discovered a private message from jwreck pointing me here -- now I know what his board post that just said "fight club" meant...

This will be my only post here. While entertaining to read, my purpose here is not entertainment. It's to educate and to the degree possible organize. My personality or whether anyone likes me is irrelevant and immaterial to the issues and facts in Mumia's cause. Thus having mudfights with people here would be engaging in a distraction for the EXPRESSED PURPOSE of engaging in distraction, in other words counterproductive (not to mention very negative). If y'all find it cathartic or therapeutic or something, fine, go for it.

That said I note that my "supporters" and "opponents" basically break down along lines of support and opposition to Mumia, so I'm apparently as symbolic to some here as Mumia is to Cosmo, who states that Mumia symbolizes all that is evil to him -- which is typical of Mumia-bashers, they're dealing with more than the actual man.

I will also point out that I can can trash talk as well as the next guy and if people talk shit about Mumia they'll get it back from me, and that the vibe in this Mumia batttle dates back to ratm.com so if it appears that someone here "started" it you're missing a lot of context. Many "questions" addressed to me by people who claim to be "objectively curious" are insincere, leading and rhetorical, and sometimes I decline to play those games. Sorry.

So I'm late for something important. Have fun fighting & I'll see you back at Political Debate. :cool:

Originally posted by Rob from Philly


I will also point out that I can can trash talk as well as the next guy and if people talk shit about Mumia they'll get it back from me, and that the vibe in this Mumia batttle dates back to ratm.com so if it appears that someone here "started" it you're missing a lot of context. Many "questions" addressed to me by people who claim to be "objectively curious" are insincere, leading and rhetorical, and sometimes I decline to play those games. Sorry.
Yeah but I was just "objectively curious" and the behavior of yu and the other supporters quite frankly soured me to your cause before I even knew anything about it. Whatever yu history is with other members should stay history with other members. Don't jump my ass for something someone said a RATM. People might take you seriously then.

Jwreck's right, your personality & attitude are VERY relevant to your fight for Mumia. You alienated quite a few people here who knew zip about Mumia and may have been converts to your cause if not for your abrasive attitude.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

An open hand makes more friends than a clenched fist.

Your actions speak far louder than your words ever could.

All cliches that fit here. Think about it. I generally disagree with alot of what JoeyNormal has to say politically as well, but at least he generally frames his debates in a more civilized manner.

Generally? Oh well, I admit I've got a temper...

Originally posted by JoeyNormal
Generally? Oh well, I admit I've got a temper...

LOL! Not as bad as some people I know:) It's all good though Joey. My point to Rob was that if he handled himself more like you he might have made a few more allies here.

Yeah, I was joking ;)

Thanks for what I'm gonna take as a compliment.