Okay, I'm reading this play here at work, and I've come across a quote that I thought I'd post.

What do you guys think of this?

"Women may decry the violent impulses of men, but when push comes to shove and people need defending, then no one wants a good guy anymore. A woman has it easy, because it has just been a luxury for her really not to have to act on this impulse or even feel it, to let a man do it for her, so that she can stand aside and deplore it. Whereas in reality, it is an inextricable part of civilization where she lives, on which she depends."
--From Charles Mee's "Big Love"

I think it used to be largely true back in the old days... Now you see women serving in the military as well as taking up martial arts & even professional boxing. Some women may still fit into that category, but I think most women now are more independant & assertive than that. The damsel in distress thing just isn't generally in fashion any more, LOL!

I'll go along with Shadow on a lot of that. Not only are women more assertive, but we also live in a fairly protective culture now.

If I were to hit some guy in a bar, eh, we may get arrested and slapped on the wrist. I knock the crap out of some "poor girl", and I'm going to jail and face some serious penalties. Men hitting women is REALLY looked down upon . . . as it should be. I just find it kinda' odd when we think it's somehow cool to see some 104 pound gilr beat the crap out of some 200 pound gorilla (on t.v. exclusively, of course!).

I think that women SHOULD be assertive when the need arises, but they need to be realistic. Standing up for yourself is one thing, but jumping into a physical confrontation with a man because NOW says you're equal is damn near idiotic, but we're starting to push that belief on young women. That's dangerous.

With regards to the quote, though, I think you can apply that to ANY group. People like Rosie detest guns and people who own them . . . as long as she has people with guns to protect her. It's sort of the "I don't need guns, why should you? Now, come along Vito, you have to take little Suzi to school. Oh, and hide your Uzi when taking her up the steps, huh? You're starting to scare the other kids."

Tree-huggers are the same way. They'll go protest the exploitation of the environment all day, and then go back home in the SUV's, enjoy television, and bitch because their 401k plans aren't doing well.

And remember, it's EASY to be a peace lover in the U.S. with the world's strongest military protecting you. To me, it's like saying how much you hate your parents and they're awful to you on the way down the steps to get car keys and money from them .. . . you know?

Essentially, the world is full of hypocrites. :D

My GF punched me in the gut last weekend. Still haven't figured out why, and it hurt like hell. But I'm into that kind of thing

My friends and I were talking about this last night, and we all came to the same consensus. We'd be embarrassed and probably pretty annoyed if our boyfriends ever got in some sort of bar room brawl on our behalf. HOwever, we agree that it's much better dating guys who have the potential to do so. It's like when Cody says he'll beat up guys at shows who hit on me. Obviously we both know he's kidding, but I love the fact that he threatens!

I guess I have a different mentality . . . I pity guys that don't hit on or at least check out my girlfriend . . . as hot as she is. It makes them either gay or gutless.

Oddly enough, there are a lot of non-gay guys with guts around here! :D

I'd be worried about my taste in women if guys didn't hit on my girl. I think it's funny when guys get bent out of shape about it.

"ARE YOU STARING AT MY WOMAN??"

"That ugly dirtbag? Hell no! I wouldn't f*(# her with a STOLEN d*#$! She couldn't get a rise out of me with Marth White Flour and a porno mag."

:D:D:D

Originally posted by Allegra
Okay, I'm reading this play here at work, and I've come across a quote that I thought I'd post.

What do you guys think of this?

"Women may decry the violent impulses of men, but when push comes to shove and people need defending, then no one wants a good guy anymore. A woman has it easy, because it has just been a luxury for her really not to have to act on this impulse or even feel it, to let a man do it for her, so that she can stand aside and deplore it. Whereas in reality, it is an inextricable part of civilization where she lives, on which she depends."
--From Charles Mee's "Big Love"
A while back I posted something on why women like men who treat them like crap. I think this falls into it. The plain truth is nice guys do finish last on the romance front. I think its totally wrong but its true. One good thing I did find is that women who do like bad men usually get what they deserve.

It was more true in the past, its not 100% true, but it is true in most cases. There are so many factors involved in this: male/female roles, culture, society, laws, insticts, etc.

But in most cases, men protect/ fight for the women, although there is not much to protect them from or fight for.

I am not sure if it is primitive insticts, or the security of a big guy with balls, but women like the badass that can fight.