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Criminal
12-05-2001, 06:51 AM
Recently I have been reading about Hinduism, which is in my opinion a very fascinating religion. I thought I would share some information with you.

The Hindu faith is probibly the oldest organized religion in the world. We know this because the worlds first religious text was written as long as 2500 BC. This first text is called the Rig Veda. It talks about the lives that the first Hindus must have led. This religion was started by the Aryans, a fair skinned people who invaded India from what is now Russia. They organized a religion which probibly resembled the old Teutanic religions more than modern Hinduism. The old texts emphasised ritual sacrifice in much the same way that the Biblical book of Leviticus did. As time went on the religion evolved. One principal developement was the introduction of the Caste system. This was probibly instituted by the Aryans. It had those who were pure Aryan become the Brahmans, or twice born. These were the priestly casts of India. Other groups were of mixed origin and at the bottom were the outcasts or Untouchables. (It should be noted that while Ghandi and the current Indian government have condemned the caste system, it continues to exist in modern Indian society).
Another developement was the recognizition of three principal gods, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Brahma is the creator of all life. Vishnu is the preserver of life and Shiva is the destroyer. The God Vishnu is perhaps the most celibrated of the Gods, particularly in his incarnation as Krishn. Shiva too is celebrated though his worship is more celibrated by Tantrics and other obsure sects.

There are also minor gods in Hinduism, many of them are regional dieties. One favorite is the benevolent god of good fortune, Ganesha, the elephant headed son of Shiva.

Another popular figure in Hindu mythology is Kali, an incarnation of the goddess Ambika. According to mythology, the heavens were attacked by deamons who arose such fear among the gods that they could only call on Shiva to defend them. Shiva was in a deep state of meditation however and the all was answered by Kali. Kali went to war riding a bull and slew all the deamons. Kali is depicted as a black skinned godess. She is nude except for a necklace of skulls and a girdle of human hands. She has 4 arms and is often seen holding a severed head. Her eyes and tounge are covered in blood. In spite of this fearsome appearance she is seen as a benevolent godess who heals.

One cult of Kali, which breaks from orthodox Hinduism, continues sacrafice of goats and other animals. At one time humans were sacreficed to Kali as well.

A central aspect of the Hindu faith is reincarnation. This is related to the caste system in that one who does rightous acts in their current life will attain a higher status in their next. Those who are wicked, by contrast will be born at a lower status or even as an animal. Those who are particularly rightous can break the cycle of rebirth and be reunited with Brahma.

While orthodox Hinduism has an organized priesthood and emphasises attainment of a higher life through an asthetic life of prayer and meditation(e.g. yoga), one radical offshoot of Hinduism started in the 5th century and emphasises religious celebration through sexual union. This is known as Tantra. Though not highly regarded by the mainstream of Hindu society, this form of worship has a very rich history. Central to this was the worship of the Linga or Lingus. The Linga is a depiction of an erect phallus. Such forms of sexual worship is found in many old temples where depictions of couples having intercourse are found.

Manu
12-06-2001, 01:29 PM
Wow, that is a VERY good overview...

I agree with almost all ya said.

Have you ever been to an Indian temple? They are VERY cool.

Having been to a large temple of Kali in India, I can attest to the ritual sacrifice, the floor is sometimes coated in a sheen of blood.

You're definately right with Krishna being one of the most celebrated Gods. Many of the sects of Hinduism give a lot of attention to Krishna and the 'love' he brings.

The thing about caste...I would have to disagree somewhat. The idea of caste, at least outside of villages is really disapearing fast. There are 'social classes' which are more based upon economy than birth right...

In modern India caste is disapearing quick. Peolpe relate reincarnation more to quality of life rather than the caste they will then be born into.

All in all a great overview!

Criminal
12-07-2001, 01:04 AM
Are you Hindu by any chance? I find it to be a fascinating religion. Since the time I was a child and saw "Lives of a Bengal Lancer" I read as much as I could about India. I have always been interested in Indian art and culture. I have a friend whose mother went to study in an Asharam. She talked a great deal about her experiences. She is a practicing yogi as well.

I never visited a Hindu temple though there is a beautiful temple in Lemont, IL. I have seen it from the outside though.

Regarding Tantra, I saw a really interesting program on the learning channel. I found it hard to believe but there are temples in India with embedded immages of couples engaged in sexual acts. I found it particularly odd because I always immagined Hinduism to be a puritanical religion. The host of the program said that this is depicted because in India, religion encompases all aspects of the human experience and sex is seen as part of this experience.

I had also checked out the web and found some really interesting information on Kali. Artistic renderings of Kali show her as looking very frightening, and at times even hideous. Yet she is revered by a great many people. I was surpised to find that she has been accepted as a mother godess and even in the west. Many feminists have used Kali as an icon.

The Temple to Kali you visited, was that the one in Calcutta by any chance? I would love to see that place. I found some really amazing info on that place on the internet.

Manu
12-07-2001, 01:18 AM
Well I am 'hindu' in the sense that both of my parents are and that is the only religion practiced at home. I personally do not perscribe to an organized religion perse, but with the reading/research and people I have met from each, Hinduism lies the closest with what I feel.

The temple of Kali I believe was in Calcutta, it was one of the biggest Kali temples. When I was younger I used to think she was a demoness and not a Godess. There are some VERY frightening pictures of her.

I spent a week in an Ashram on the ganges last time I went to India. (we used to go every other year, but then high school and college got in the way.) That was a very religious (well, more spiritual) experience. There are so many thousands of peolpe bathing in the waters, so many people praying and hoping there. You get 'caught up' in it and do truly feel something indescribable.

I have never been to a temple of tantra, but it si true that hindus as a whole are not as conservative as people would believe. Their traditions/culture is deeply enrouted in religion, but it is in a manner that si VERY accepting of anything/everything.

I think what strikes me most about most of the Hindus I've met here and in India is that they are VERY receptive to other people/cultures/religions. Hinduism in fact explains the existence of other religions and accepts them...

Criminal
12-10-2001, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Manu


I think what strikes me most about most of the Hindus I've met here and in India is that they are VERY receptive to other people/cultures/religions. Hinduism in fact explains the existence of other religions and accepts them...
I find this aspect of the Hindu faith to be very admirable. I think Judism is the same way. These are faiths that do not seek to proselytize others. I think that if all Hindus are like Ghandi then it must be a great religion.

Manu
12-10-2001, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by Criminal

I find this aspect of the Hindu faith to be very admirable. I think Judism is the same way. These are faiths that do not seek to proselytize others. I think that if all Hindus are like Ghandi then it must be a great religion.

haha, unfortunately they/we are not all like Ghandi. Hell, even Ghandi had his issues...but the ability to do what he did in a non violent manner...that was impressive.

If you ever have the opportunity to go to India I say jump on it. It is quickly becoming very industrialized/commericalized and it is totally different everytime I go...

The best thing is, english speakers are abdundent there, espcailly if you stick to cities. Anyone that goes to school there knows English (hell better than a lot of us know english.)

It is just amazing to be driving around a busy city street, double decker busses, scooters, cars, rickshaws<sp>, and then a heard of cows crosses the street...it is a trip.

Or going around fairly large buildings, but then going down and ally and having a totally old school market with small 'tents' and such set up. It is just an immensly unique experience.

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