i still don't get men. :confused:

... but nevermind ....

I dont get Men either..
All about you one day, the next who are you..

Get the book..Mars and Venus on a Date..

I find the only psycho guys out there are the ones that women want. If you WANT to know if a guy's psycho or not, look at how many women want him . . . and for no obvious reason. The guy's either a psycho or an angler extrodanaire.

I find that many women will "buy a Porsche" and then complain that there's no room in the back seat to all their friends.

Well, you can usually spot a physco guy easily. And it doesnt count if they just have mood swings and stuff. But you know they are fuked in the head, so you want to be with it.

As for physco women, they can seem normal, then crack, and freak, and go nuts. They can be fun in bed...but its a risk. They can try to track you down, slash your tires, stalk you, fight with a new girlfriend...thats just a bit too much for me.

You want a man you can figure out? Find a nice guy who is too shy to talk to you. He will just be happy you are around, etc. But Im sure thats too timid for you, you rather date the freak who lives in a shack building "clocks."

i think this one's truly schizo.
As a certified schizo, I'm offended. (Dave's probly thinking to himself that that explains alot) :D

They can be fun in bed.
Why is that? The psycho ones are always good in bed. That makes it that much harder to get rid of! (I have a really hard time turning down sex. especially freaky sex)

I could make the excuse that dude may just be uncertain about the relationship or have a fear of commitment...

Personally though as a "nice guy" who gets crapped on all the time, I'm beginning to see Dave's point... It's the jerks and psychos that always get their behavior rewarded, SO...

BAH! Leave us say Dave's Porsche analogy is fitting.

Whether you are a guy or a girl, relationships make you real stupid but some people do take it to the extreme.
My friend Michael's ex-girlfriend is a cancer research doctor but is til acting like she is 13. She calls and leaves nasty messages on his answering machine, comes over and demands his time just to talk or whatever and there have even been incidents where she has bitten him enought to break skin, damage muscle tissue and leave scars. She has even stolen his Jeep and hidden it then a week later she stole the battery out of it.
My best friends ex-boyfriend stalks her(she lives in a gated community and when she won't let him in the gate, he waits there until someone else comes so he can get through), calls a million times a day on her car phone, house phone and work phone. He beats on her door at all times of the day, yells through it or cries until she lets him in because she is scared she might get a complaint filed on her from a nabor because of all the craziness.
After all this shit I see, people wonder why I don't have a boyfriend...I don't want to deal with that, I am not stupid!

Well Alison I would tell you that not all relationships are like that, but I'm beginning to wonder myself anymore... :(

I suppose my optimistic side would say you'll know when the right one comes along... Instead I'll just quote Obi-Wan Durden... Uh Kenobi (LOL!) "You must do what you feel is right for the force" :)

I've come to the conclusion that it's not just girls or guys that are crazy, they both are. For all the ****ed up things I've had done to me by girls I've seen my friends do some equally screwed up shit.

I still don't understand th nice guy/bad guy thing.. I started life being the most rediculously nice guy out there, only to find myself getting shitted on over and over. All while I'd watch my ******* friends hook up left and right. After a few years I finally decided to act just like them, boy did my luck change. I think it's sad I had to become an ******* to get girls to pay attention to me. But now I don't really care, I'm pretty cynical about the whole thing, I'm not gonna run some act to get chicks. If I find a nice girl who isn't looking for an ******* great. If I don't, their loss..

Oh, I'd definately agree with you there... The ladies are pretty quick to point out how quickly guys go for "hoochie mommas" when we point out how they go for jerks. Pretty sad that dating comes down to that on both sides....

Despite my last post here, I'm not quite as cynical YET as you claim to be CA, but I'm getting there in a hurry any more... Try to be nice and what does it get me? Crapped on 85% of the time:(

... nevermind ...

90% of the guys out there aren't going to admit to that kind of thing... You admit to having feelings you just get them used against you and your heart ripped out. I've even seen some girls manipulate guys that were just friends like that.

Ni offese also, but EVERY woman I've ever known that said she can handle directness & honesty got mad as hell at me when I tried to deal with problems in that manner.

Originally posted by Shadowhawk
......Crapped on 85% of the time:(

85?? lucky you.. :)

truthfully it goes both ways, when people start manipulating relationships, it's bound to fall, I don't have a whole lot of room to talk but I know that you can't have a healthy relationship, if you keep trying to get back at each other..

it's not suppose to be like that

Originally posted by Shadowhawk
90% of the guys out there aren't going to admit to that kind of thing... You admit to having feelings you just get them used against you and your heart ripped out. I've even seen some girls manipulate guys that were just friends like that.

Ni offese also, but EVERY woman I've ever known that said she can handle directness & honesty got mad as hell at me when I tried to deal with problems in that manner.

The force is strong in this one. That's the truth brother. You admit to fealings and you might as well hand her a strap on and bend over because you're about to get screwed, and not in a good way.:mad: Synical? Who me?;)

but what about psycho men ?

i know this one that plays hot and cold.
it's the most absolutely ****ing annoying thing ever.
he'll want to talk one day, and not the other.
only at his convenience.
i thought that he was innocent, so he wouldn't play these ****ing games.
turns out, they all know how to play this game.
i give him fairplay and the same treatment back (hot and cold), and he gets upset and says he can't understand me.
then when i ignore him, he gets loveydovey.
i think this one's truly schizo.

i really don't get men

It's all about control. If you're posting here about it, you're obviously sweating the guy and that's exactly what he wants. A lot of guys get a kick out stuff like that. When you turn around and play the game back with him, and he get's all lovey dovey...you've taken his control away from him. Have fun with it, but obviously any relationship where one or both people are playing games isn't worth investing much of yourself into.

90% of the guys out there aren't going to admit to that kind of thing... You admit to having feelings you just get them used against you and your heart ripped out.

This is SO true it is scary....however even with myself knowing this...I still am one that will not BS or play games. Yea, the nice guy may finnish last, but I know I will finish the race on day.... (I think)

You know guys... We're screwing up here giving away all our guy secrets:D We're not supposed to let them know these kind of things... It's in the handbook somewhere:D:D:D ROFLMAO!