I was on my way up from the laundry room this afternoon when I saw this piece of **** up on the wall...
http://www.johnfech.com/DSC01429.JPG
:mad:
I was enraged when I saw this piece of trash on the wall. I ripped it down and I plan on doing the same to every otehr on e I see!:mad:

As a member of the Armed Forces I was truelly offened by this! I am going over to the the campus activities board as well as possiblely the ROTC corp here to place my own flyers up! This is one of the few things that will anger me to such an extent!:mad:

John:mad:

Can I be the group enforcer? I am so definatly in this one with ya man.

First start. Quite lame, but I don't have PrintShop at school, but I know people with it...
http://www.johnfech.com/DSC01430-1.jpg
It's just outside my room, but hey I'll do more Monday when I can with permission form the school.

John:mad:

Shelter, dude you're in! No questions about it.

Good for you ponyboy!

Ok so we have a two member anti anti war group. Both of whom happen to be either current or former soldiers...LOL Thats ok though cause the more of us there are the better we can fight those hippie draft dodgers..LOL They werent taught how to fire and manuvere.... Cover me while i move Pony...:D

Never mind

im still very against this war
thats all i have to say about that

Originally posted by ISUPonyBoy
First start. Quite lame, but I don't have PrintShop at school, but I know people with it...
http://www.johnfech.com/DSC01430-1.jpg
It's just outside my room, but hey I'll do more Monday when I can with permission form the school.

John:mad:

Shelter, dude you're in! No questions about it.


what is on your poster?


oh, and :nice: I agree with you 100%, but freedom of speech allows others to put up posters just like that :(

More Details in Former Weapons Inspector's Arrest

More details are emerging on the arrest of former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter. The Delmar resident was arrested by Colonie police in June of 2001 on a misdemeanor charge. And Channel 6 News has learned that Ritter had been issued a warning after being caught by police once before. Colonie police will not confirm any of this, but Channel 6 News learned that Ritter was caught in a sex sting early in 2001. He was issued a warning then, but eventually arrested for the same thing three months later. Ritter, who has made national headlines for speaking out against going to war with Iraq is keeping silent on this issue. He has been unavailable for comment since details of his arrest were made public. In June of 2001, Ritter was accused of engaging in a sexual discussion, on the Internet with a person who he thought, was a 14 year old girl. It was actually an undercover investigator who agreed to meet with Ritter. When Ritter arrived at the location, expecting to meet the girl, police warned him that he had been set up. Three months later Ritter allegedly fell into the same trap, only this time he was arrested. The misdemeanor charge relating to child endangerment was eventually disposed of and sealed. Assistant District Attorney Cynthia Preiser has since lost her job over the incident. Albany County DA Paul Clyne fired Preiser on Friday because he says she never informed him that the case against Ritter even existed. Prieser would not comment and Ritter has also been unavailable for comment. The case against Ritter was eventually sealed, preventing everyone from disclosing details about the case. In fact, Ritter can deny it ever happened since sealed cases essentially mean, it never happened. CNN tells Channel 6 News, Ritter is on his way to Baghdad, but will be in New York City tomorrow to shoot an anti war message.

Maybe he can get some little girls to pose with him. :mad:

I'll be the third member of the anti-anti war group and your commentator from europe. The demonstrators here are getting abnoxious. They stood outside the post where I work and disrupted traffic patterns on thursday and friday and then they had the better part of 4 blocks blocked off on Saturday which screwed up traffic ect. I mean hey, we got it already, you don't want to fight a war, but take it up with your government so that they can go to ours. Protesting one units movement is ridiculous.

im #4

lets start a pro-war rally.

:)

I am 100% for war. I got in fight with an older liberal lady at my work tonight. Needless to say I owned. We can't read your poster tho...scan it or something so we can see it.

I'm not pro-war, I'm pro Freedom and I'm pro American. IF war is the only means to secure our freedom from those who do not value it as we do then I am proud to say I will shed my own blood for those I chose to defend. But I will not go seeking a conflict, so far they have brought this war on themselves.

John

I agree with ISUPonyBoy, i'm not pro-war either, but it seems that Saddam has pushed us into a situation where war is inevitable. Well maybe Bush is overreacting, but heck this is the ole' gulf war team we've got going up against Saddam, they know how he acts. I'm sure we'll do what is needed for the preservation of freedom. Also, if war does break out, enlist, do any little thing you can to help the great men and women fighting for us. Don't join anti-war groups, that's just messed up, be in one now, but later on do something to contribute.

Why would you join an anti-war group NOW, and then join the war when it starts, Emortio?

This makes me sick. I think peaceful protest of what people think to be true and right is perfectly valid. And so does the government as a matter of fact. HELLO! Constitution! If I'm not mistaken human beings have the right to think freely, for crying out loud, who's gonna stop us???
A school walk-out is a better way to protest than going on an anti-war rampage against all pro war, pro bush, righty followers. It's peaceful, it's a gathering of people of the same kind, and it's our f*ing right. In fact, I'm helping stage a walk-out at my school in the event of war.
Free thinking should not include rage, anger, and the defacing of perfectly legal public postings. Nor the mockery of individualized and widespread opinion.
Feel free to post your own beliefs anywhere you want. But don't expect everyone to go along with you. angry, snide re-posters are just something that will get bad attention and rolled eyes. Scroll up. look at the top of this page. Divided we stand. Not Divided we hate.

~me (she who wants the actuality of free thought and the advantage of legal action in context.)

That's fine walk out. I'll still be walking point for you when and if we do go to war. Do not attend classes for a day, that's fine, I'll still give up my freedom to defend yours. Organize peaceful rallies and then when you feel you have spread the word enough go home and put your feet up, I want you to, becasue I will still being laying prone slinging my riffle in a foreign land. In fact not only will I, but so will hundreds of thousands other Americans. Some older and many younger than I. Those that are there already have given up more than you will understand so you will have the right to not understand what and who you protest against. I do not pray for war, but I do believe that sometimes force is required. I do not hunger to cause death, but I do strive to protect the innocent. America has never gone looking for war, but those who wish to harm coming looking for it. And our sword is mighty, but our hearts are stronger. When and if the war clouds so completley darken our skies I will be with you in spirit when you walk out only because you are using that freedom that I so willingly defend.

John

btw: I have so much respect for the American men and women already overseas. There are no finer people on this planet.

WHAT? you think I don't defend freedom? I'm a freedom fighter that just doesn't believe in unnecessary force. I agree that sometimes force is necessary to quell the force being inflicted upon us. That is a given. Any person with common sense would defend themselves in a fight, no? I just disagree with the way THIS war is being managed, being organized, and being put into action. I'm not going to go into detail because it would take hours. Every day I work toward the freedom we ALL strive for. Every day I try to overcome the racial, social, and sexual prejudices that Americans and everyone else in this world must deal with daily. This is not an easy world to live in, granted. And I respect anyone and everyone that defends the freedom of the people in general. This can come in may forms, whether it be yours as a member of the armed forces, or like mine, as an outspoken, politically oriented, firm believer in my leanings, who will strive to educate and find ways to help the children grow in a peaceful world. I may be young, but it's so strange growing up in this age of war and violence. this is not what I imagined this world being like as a child. The least I can do is help contribute to the happiness of the people. If happiness means following a personal belief, then fine. That's what I'm for. In this case, a walkout is the largest statement we as high school students can possibly make without breaking laws or district rules. Anything else would get us kicked out. Believe me I've looked into it.
I have nothing against your being in the armed forces. On the contrary, good for you. Do what you like and what you believe in. Just don't try to pawn it all off on others. I am NOT impressionable.
On a different note, I want to thank you for being the most receptive debater I've found here on DA. Nobody with an opinion opposite mine has been able to maintain a respectful tone. Thank you for that

~me (she who doesn't like anger)

I totally agree with you Salach.

I find it disgusting and extremely insulting that anyone would say attacking Iraq has anything to do with our freedom. Our founding fathers would be rolling in their graves.

All more ironic when our own government is busy taking our freedoms AWAY! Now they are EXPANDING the powers of the "Patriot" act.

What Smedley Butler said is true today.

When is the military going to go force the government to do away with the Patriot and Homeland security act both of with nullifies's the Constitution? When? Our freedoms been taken by DOMESTIC enemies.

What i don't get is.....


the poster dosen't say anything about Anti-armed forces....


why are you so put off?


So what....people want to protest....why does that make you angry?...

I have no problems with people protesting, so long as it doesnt get out of line. Personally I take the poster as a slap in the face to those who are putting their ass on the line for others, but thats ok if they feel like doing it. I dont have to like it, I just have to defend it. I however think a walkout in school to be not only disrespectful to those in conflict, but a waste of time. Why dont ya walk on a weekend and protest the government sending you to war, not the soldiers fighting the war for your government.

Originally posted by ISUPonyBoy
btw: I have so much respect for the American men and women already overseas. There are no finer people on this planet.
Of course, they're yanks. How could they be anything but the saviours of the universe? :rolleyes:

thanks CA.
hmm....

Originally posted by Shelter
I have no problems with people protesting, so long as it doesnt get out of line. Personally I take the poster as a slap in the face to those who are putting their ass on the line for others, but thats ok if they feel like doing it. I dont have to like it, I just have to defend it. I however think a walkout in school to be not only disrespectful to those in conflict, but a waste of time. Why dont ya walk on a weekend and protest the government sending you to war, not the soldiers fighting the war for your government.
protesting (for me) during school IS a protest of the government, not the soldiers. I go to school in a public system, run by the GOVERNMENT. And oppressed by the social rules put upon it.

Originally posted by Potyondi

Of course, they're yanks. How could they be anything but the saviours of the universe? :rolleyes:
*chuckle*

~me (she who... it's too early in the morning to think. bah. time to go to school. whee.)

But....how is it a slap in the face of those fighting the war?



They are doing their job....

IT DOSEN'T SAY ANYTHING AGAINST THE ARMED FORCES...



You can hate the cause, but still care for the people who fight for the cause...


Like....lets say...that your wife was in......the IRS..........

you don't hate your wife becuase she is reposnsible for income tax and stuff.....that's just her job....

Originally posted by JustDance
Why would you join an anti-war group NOW, and then join the war when it starts, Emortio? Hey n00b...read... closer....

ANTI-ANTI War group




ISU. If you need a tactics and weapons specialist, I'm your guy.

I'm with scott here, I don't see the problem here.

I support our troops, and I pray every single one of them comes home safely. I am however completely anti-war, in this specific case, I am anti-stupid politicians that want to start a pointless war.

Thank you Scott and Igofast. You've made my point much simpler without me going into hopeless semantics about my reasoning.

~me (she who gets somewhat carried away)

Originally posted by kOnTrA
I am 100% for war.

Do you know how wicked that sounds praising for a needless war? No one should want war, yet you liberaly express yourself saying that you want war and violence.

Originally posted by kOnTrA
I got in fight with an older liberal lady at my work tonight. Needless to say I owned.

ROFL right, you can't even own Fade even if your life depended on it. :rolleyes: