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Powerboss
11-07-2001, 04:54 PM
Im picking this up where Adam, in another thread, explained what a Neutron does.

Can someone clearly state the differences between the 4 types?

Manu
11-07-2001, 05:07 PM
hmm, im a bit confused what you're asking bill...

Can ya restate it?

I THINK you left the word bomb out...and then it would make a whole lot more sense...

Powerboss
11-07-2001, 05:27 PM
Yeah, BOMBS, What are the differences between them all?

D Durden
11-07-2001, 05:44 PM
Nuclear and atomic are the same . . . big boomers . . . radioactive fallout . . . the kind we dropped on Japan albeit a bit cleaner now.

Neutron . . . less blast but kills effectively. It's used when we want to preserve the buildings, tanks, and what not. It's relatively "safe" after the blast.

Hydrogen . . . BIGA BOOMER. This IS the .50 BMG of atomic bombs. It's for when you absolutely, positively MUST be sure he ain't comin' back.

Powerboss
11-07-2001, 06:11 PM
What makes the hydrogen bomb so nasty?
Is it radioactive like the others?
Ect, ect, ect?

hammegk
11-07-2001, 07:10 PM
Things you probably didn't really want know--
Originally appeared in IEEE Spectrum Magazine
January, 1991



This, in effect, is what the neutron bomb is... a bomb by means of which it would be possible to kill people but to preserve
all riches - here it is, the bestial ethics of the most aggressive representatives of imperialism.
-Nikita Khrushchev, in a speech to the Rumanian Party Congress, 1961


At the height of the Cold War in the late 1950s, a tremendous amount of research was under way to enhance and modernize the
U.S. nuclear arsenal. The growing perception of Soviet superiority in conventional arms placed a high priority on the development
of new nuclear weapons. The most likely scenario was a nuclear conflict starting in densely populated Europe, devastating most of
it in the process.

Yet when the neutron bomb, a nuclear weapon that maximizes damage to people but minimizes damage to buildings and
equipment, was nearing deployment in the 1970s, the ethical and political repercussions ignited a firestorm of debate the engulfed
most of the Free World. In the end, however, this ultimate weapon has become a forgotten pawn in a game of global politics.

Since the early 1950s, there have been two main weapons in the U.S. nuclear arsenal: atomic and hydrogen bombs. The atomic
bomb, of the type dropped on Nagasaki in 1945, uses a chemical explosion to compress a core of purified plutonium, resulting in an uncontrolled fission that releases tremendous heat and energy. The fission products and by-products formed by the radiation produce the lethal and long-lived fallout associated with nuclear weapons.

A hydrogen bomb, on the other hand, produces most of its energy by the fusion of heavy isotopes of hydrogen, such as deuterium and tritium. The energy needed to start the fusion reaction is obtained when chemical explosives implode a small core of fissionable material at the center. The energy released is used to compress a surrounding layer of hydrogen fuel, causing the atoms to fuse together to produce helium, energy, and a hail of high-speed neutrons. In a typical hydrogen bomb, these neutrons are absorbed by a uranium casing of fissionable material surrounding the device. This causes the casing to fission, resulting in an
even bigger explosion, releasing even more heat and radiation and still more fallout.

If the outer uranium casing of a hydrogen bomb were removed, the neutrons released would travel great distances. Such neutrons are capable of penetrating relatively well-shielded structures with lethal doses and incapacitating
the people inside. Since fallout is due primarily to products of the fission reactions, removing the outer casing would leave only the
initial small fission reaction, releasing only one hundredth the radiation of a comparable fission weapon. Even so, the weapon would emit a large percentage of neutrons, making it considerably more deadly than a standard atomic or hydrogen bomb. Thus the enhanced radiation weapon (ERW) or neutron bomb was born.

When the idea was first proposed during the 1960s, the Kennedy administration decided against building neutron weapons because it might jeopardize the nuclear test moratorium that the United States and Soviet Union were currently
observing. But when the Soviet Union broke the moratorium in 1961, this barrier was removed and by 1962 the first neutron device had been successfully tested. ERWs became an on-again, off-again item until the mid-1970s, when the Carter administration proposed modernizing the U.S. nuclear arsenal by installing neutron warheads on the Lance missile and artillery
shells planned for deployment in Europe.

However, some felt that the neutron bomb would make the unthinkable thinkable. The complete destruction that nuclear weapons would bring was the primary deterrent to their use. The neutron bomb, however, could conceivably make nuclear war more possible by allowing the use of nuclear weapons without inviting wholesale devastation of the target, it was argued. Military planners might not be as hesitant to use neutron weapons as they might a standard fission warhead.

The ensuing political turmoil shook NATO to its core. The debate over the deployment and use of ERWs was as heated in Europe as it was in the United States. In 1977, West Germans, realizing their country was the most likely battleground for such weapons, began hotly debating whether or not to allow such weapons on their soil. Similar political battles raged in other NATO countries.
President Carter, bowing to domestic and international pressure, decided in 1978 to defer deployment of the weapon, conditional on Soviet restraint in military production and force deployments.

In August 1981, President Reagan fueled the political debate again by re-authorizing the production of neutron warheads for the
Lance missile and an 8-inch artillery shell. Because of strong opposition from Western Europe, Reagan ordered all neutron weapons to be stored in the United States, with the option to deploy overseas in case of war. The USSR publicly announced that while it, too, had tested neutron weapons, it had no plans to deploy them.

In 1980, France announced that it had tested a neutron device.

The current status of neutron weapons is something of a mystery, though. The U.S. nuclear arsenal is still believed [as of 1991] to contain some 350 neutron warheads for the Lance missile and a similar number of 8-inch artillery.

Now for some editorializing:
I vaguely recall that the upper limit for fission-only is about 100 kilotons; human engineering of available materials doesn't allow higher yield. Thermonukes though are open-ended and 100 megaton devices were apparently built. I think the biggest tests were in the 20 megaton range, but again, the strength is limited only by the amount of tritium you have on hand you would like to 'fuse'.

Suitcase nukes, I speculate a few kilotons to perhaps a few dozen kilotons-- pretty hard to get any info on these babies.

Manu
11-07-2001, 07:46 PM
Thanks for the great article!

To recap...

1. Atomic, Nuclear bomb - Uses nuclear FISSION to create the blast.

2. Hydrogen bomb - Uses nuclear FUSION to create the main blast. THis is what happens when atoms gian more neutrons than they normally have...creating new isotopes...

3. Neutron - A Hydrogen bomb minus its uranium shell. (basically)

AdamJ
11-12-2001, 04:36 PM
looks like we are all good on this subject then...

Here is Layman's info from HowStuffWorks.com

http://www.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb.htm

jonnyofthedead
12-05-2001, 07:36 PM
to Manu's post:
In fusion reactions (as in H-bombs), nuclei don't absorb neutrons, rather two separate nuclei collide and fuse, which is why you get formation of helium nuclei from the collision of two isotopes of hydrogen.

JoeyNormal
12-07-2001, 01:53 AM
I can detail the inside of atomic and hydrogen bombs:

Atomic - Multiple small pieces of Uranium (238 I think) or Plutonium are held seperate. Around these is a large sphere of conventional explosive. This pushes the pieces together, creating a mass above critical mass, causing an uncontrolled chain reaction, causing an explosion.

Hydrogen bomb: The same, but in the core there is hydrogen (actually, if I recall, deuterium and tritium isotopes), and the fission explosion of the Uranium compresses them and heats them sufficiently for fusion to occur.

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