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MorphicOutFielder
12-07-2002, 12:24 PM
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Benjamin Freedman Speaks: A Jewish Defector Warns America

by Benjamin H. Freedman

Introductory Note: Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century.Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. .....

.....Here in the United States, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of ourgovernment. For many reasons, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co- religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep.

What happened? World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.Within two years Germany had won that war: not only won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean. Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, with one week's food supply -- and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting, they were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

Not a shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: "Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started." England, in the summer of 1916 was consideringthat -- seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make -- they said: "Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally." The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; wewere powerful. They told England: "We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war." In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.......

........Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it - - the United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally.

I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: ...........

.....Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. ......

........The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on themoon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I.

After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: "Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war." They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration.

The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. ........

...That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, "How about Palestine for us?" And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, "Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war." The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost.

That brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. ..........
.......The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: "Well, that was quite a sellout." .......

....Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth." .......

.......Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said "Shema' Yisroel" or "Our Father." Nobody cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feelingthat developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat.

And World War I had been started against Germany for no reason for which Germany was responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. .....

....Their navy was rivaling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody, they could make better products. What happened as a result of that?

There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia to slap down Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically.

When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in very fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to comprise about 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons, and others who had international affiliations. ......

......And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come in with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically everything. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that.

The Germans took appropriate action against the Jews. They, shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could. They shunned them. .....

.....After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And they said to Germany: "You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was.You can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an ultimatum upon you. You can imagine what the Germans told them. So what did the Jews do?

In 1933 Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference, came to the United States and went from the steamer to the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he in effect said, "The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business." ....

....Now in this declaration, which I have here, and which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that "this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the National Recovery Administration," which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, and which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on it. In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted if anyone came in and found a dish marked "made in Germany," they were picketed with signs saying "Hitler," "murderer," and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews, a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked "made in Germany."....

...Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing.

Naturally, the Germans said, "Who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries come to a standstill? ....

...The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found them then breaking windows and having street fights and so forth.

Now I don't like to use the word "anti-Semitism" because it's meaningless, but it means something to you still, so I'll have to use it. The only reason that there was any feeling in Germany against Jews was that they were responsible for World War I and for this world-wide boycott. Ultimately they were also responsible for World War II, because after this thing got out of hand, it was absolutely necessary for the Jews and Germany to lock horns in a war to see which one was going to survive.In the meanwhile, I had lived in Germany, and I knew that the Germans had decided that Europe is going to be Christian or Communist: there is no in between. And the Germans decided they were going to keep it Christian if possible. And they started to re-arm. In November 1933 the United States recognized the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was becoming very powerful, and Germany realized that "Our turn was going to come soon, unless we are strong." The same as we in this country are saying today, "Our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong." Our government is spending 83 or 84 billion dollars for defense. Defense against whom? Defense against 40,000 little Jews in Moscow that took over Russia, and then, in their devious ways, took over control of many other countries of the world.

For this country now to be on the verge of a Third World War, from which we cannot emerge a victor, is something that staggers my imagination. .......
......Why might such a war take place? It will take place as the curtain goes up on Act 3: Act 1 was World War I, Act 2 was World War II, Act 3 is going to be World War III. The Jews of the world, the Zionists and their co-religionists everywhere, are determined that they are going to again use the United States to help them permanently retain Palestine as their foothold for their world government. That is just as true as I am standing here. Not alone have I read it, but many here have also read it, and it is known all over the world. ........Not a person in the United States knew it. You weren't permitted to know it. Who knew it? President Wilson knew it. Colonel House knew it. Other insiders knew it.

Did I know it? I had a pretty good idea of what was going on: I was liaison to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., in the 1912 campaign when President Wilson was elected, and there was talk around the office there. I was "confidential man" to Henry Morgenthau, Sr., who was chairman of the finance committee, and I was liaison between him and Rollo Wells, the treasurer. So I sat in these meetings with President Wilson at the head of the table, and all the others, and I heard them drum into President Wilson's brain the graduated income tax and what has become the Federal Reserve, and I heard them indoctrinate him with the Zionist movement. Justice Brandeis and President Wilson were just as close as the two fingers on this hand. President Woodrow Wilson was just as incompetent when it came to determining what was going on as a newborn baby. That is how they got us into World War I, while we all slept. ....

...Now any judge, when he charges a jury, says, "Gentlemen, any witness who you find has told a single lie, you can disregard all his testimony." I don't know what state you come from, but in New York state that is the way a judge addresses a jury. If that witness told one lie, disregard his testimony.

What are the facts about the Jews? .......The eastern European Jews, who form 92 per cent of the world's population of those people who call themselves Jews, were originally Khazars. They were a warlike tribe who lived deep in the heart of Asia....

.......They were phallic worshippers, which is filthy and I do not want to go into the details of that now. But that was their religion, as it was also the religion of many other pagans and barbarians elsewhere in the world. The Khazar king became so disgusted with the degeneracy of his kingdom that he decided to adopt a so-called monotheistic faith -- either Christianity, Islam, or what is known today as Judaism, which is really Talmudism.
....Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a synagogue, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the Talmud teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916. We are going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason.

The Truth Shall Set Us Free.

jillianjiggs
12-07-2002, 01:10 PM
:spam:

MorphicOutFielder
12-07-2002, 02:02 PM
TRUTH!

Get used to the truth, because your era od suppression is nearing an end.......Unless they gain control of the internet, which they are systematically trying to do.

AverageJoe
12-07-2002, 06:43 PM
first of all, im not jewish, but im getting awfully sick of your anti-semitic posts. and you talking about your blonde, blue eyed viking grandson, thats some pretty sick stuff. imagine a guy in a Klan hood sitting in front of a PC monitor typing fervently.

so i think im gonna start posting about how i hate old people. old people are a drain on the economy. they take up our resources and give nothing back. we pay social security out of our paychecks to keep them alive so they can produce nothing. our medical costs are higher because they get all sorts of deals. they shouldnt be allowed behind the wheel because i see an old person almost kill someone with their car about 3 times a day, and yet they dont have high insurance costs like teens. you know why? because they have nothing better to do than sit around and lobby the hell out of congress and bitch and moan and start interest groups to ge what they want done while all the rest of us have to GO TO WORK TO EARN A LIVING! then, they get old and they cant take care of themselves so their children have to pay through the nose to put them in a decent rest home because the medicare only homes are holes in the wall where people go to die. did i mention old people smell? sometimes like poop because they shat their pants, other times like moth balls because theyre slowly trying to keep themselves from rotting.

so my modest proposal for how to deal with old people:
i figure we could put them in giant implosion chambers kinda like the nazi gas chambers. then we bury them in mass graves like the jews. as their bodies rot, we could use them for fertilizer; there sure would be a lot of it. or we could burn the corpses for fuel too. put another log on the fire grampa! i imagine a little kid putting a severed arm on the fireplace! some people just dont know when to die.

MorphicOutFielder
12-07-2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by AverageJoe
first of all, im not jewish, but im getting awfully sick of your anti-semitic posts. and you talking about your blonde, blue eyed viking grandson, thats some pretty sick stuff. imagine a guy in a Klan hood sitting in front of a PC monitor typing fervently.

It is your imagination. Use it how you wish.

Hah hah. Don't have a klan hood. I do love my grandson. What is wrong with blond hair and blue eyes?

Anti-semetic? Mostly, I post what jews says aboutthemselves. If you have problems with that, I suggest that you take up with them. Check this jew out. He and I don't agree on everything, but his site really propelled me forward.

http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/ampp.html

so i think im gonna start posting about how i hate old people. old people are a drain on the economy. they take up our resources and give nothing back. we pay social security out of our paychecks to keep them alive so they can produce nothing. our medical costs are higher because they get all sorts of deals. they shouldnt be allowed behind the wheel because i see an old person almost kill someone with their car about 3 times a day, and yet they dont have high insurance costs like teens. you know why? because they have nothing better to do than sit around and lobby the hell out of congress and bitch and moan and start interest groups to ge what they want done while all the rest of us have to GO TO WORK TO EARN A LIVING! then, they get old and they cant take care of themselves so their children have to pay through the nose to put them in a decent rest home because the medicare only homes are holes in the wall where people go to die. did i mention old people smell? sometimes like poop because they shat their pants, other times like moth balls because theyre slowly trying to keep themselves from rotting.

so my modest proposal for how to deal with old people:
i figure we could put them in giant implosion chambers kinda like the nazi gas chambers. then we bury them in mass graves like the jews. as their bodies rot, we could use them for fertilizer; there sure would be a lot of it. or we could burn the corpses for fuel too. put another log on the fire grampa! i imagine a little kid putting a severed arm on the fireplace! some people just dont know when to die.

Be careful with that hate. Hate is self destructive. I allow my self to get angry, but I always try to avoid hating, because I know that it would just eat me up.

I wish you well.

Ponycar_302
12-07-2002, 09:19 PM
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Nick
12-07-2002, 09:39 PM
Dont take this as criticsism or anything, but I was a little curious.
......And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come in with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically everything. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that.

Werent there considerably less german citizens than that? If I remember correctly wasnt there like 50 million people?

I found your post interesting, although I find that I cannot totally agree with your position on Jews. It seems evidence does exist, that a group of people do have control over world affairs, but depending on who you ask, it could be anyone from the Freemasons to the Jews to Aliens.

Just out of curiosity, do you have an opinion on the Freemasons that you would like to share?

MorphicOutFielder
12-07-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by stanger87lx
Dont take this as criticsism or anything, but I was a little curious.


Werent there considerably less german citizens than that? If I remember correctly wasnt there like 50 million people?

I found your post interesting, although I find that I cannot totally agree with your position on Jews. It seems evidence does exist, that a group of people do have control over world affairs, but depending on who you ask, it could be anyone from the Freemasons to the Jews to Aliens.

Just out of curiosity, do you have an opinion on the Freemasons that you would like to share?

I do not like or trust them. Unlike the jew, I can't find much that is overt to point toward. The Skull and Bones boys scare the hell out of me, too. When the powers that are attend the Bilderberg Meetings we get list of who I don't trust. Those meetings were kept secret for a long time. Never seen the press report on a meeting. I understand that the few reporters who ARE invited are sworn to secrecy.

I can see what jews are doing in the media. I know that jews own or control the banking system. I know that AIPAC, a jewish lobby is the most powerful in America. I know that German jews joined with world jewry and sold their own country, Germany, out to get Israel via the Balfour Declaration. I know that jews were a very significant factor in getting the United States into both world wars. I know that only jews have benefited from both world wars. Jews helped finance the rise of Hitler, then they manipulated his destruction. The Russian holocaust dwarfs anything that happened to jews, but we just keep getting new holocauct movies, always about jews. The holocaust has become an industry. In Germany it is now illegal to even ask questions about the holocaust. What do they fear?

I just can't put it all in one post. I got interested in this stuff about four years ago. I quickly learned that we are not supposed to talk about jews. We can talk about any people except jews.. Why??

But, yeah. I really would like to know more about the Masons and the Bilderberg meetings. Sometimes I think that the powerful elite gentiles use the jesagenda to their advantage, letting the jews use the media to create chaos while they, the elite manipulate us to their advantage. I do know that if we could eliminate the media creted social and political chaos maybe we would be able to figure out what the others are up to. The media has us so confused that we hardly know who we are or what we are about. Education seems to confound the intelligent and the media lures the uneducated into a dream world. Is it just some fantastic sequence of interconnected coincidences?

It reduces to, "I can see what jews are doing."

I'm open to info on Masons and the gentile power elite. I know that we are headed to a World Government. Our standard of living has permanently declined because we have been averaged into the entire world. It didn't have to be that way. We could have kept our good paying industrial jobs. The power elite bartered them away for global power vs national power. I suspect that half of those jews and drunk masons haven't a clue as to what has happened or where we are going, but the elite among them know exactly what is going on.

Steven Speilberg and peers and Bush/Clinton/Bush/Gore know exactly what they are aiming to do. Their offspring will never attend the public schools, and for us that's where it all starts. Well....And the jewtube.

MorphicOutFielder
12-07-2002, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by stanger87lx
Dont take this as criticsism or anything, but I was a little curious.


Werent there considerably less german citizens than that? If I remember correctly wasnt there like 50 million people?



That is a good question. Damn! Someone who can read. I don't know.

The only thing that I can figure is that he is counting Germans in other countries, and their were millions. When the SS was forming there were a lot of Germans who volunteered from other countries, but no longer spoke German. A major reason that Hitler invaded Poland was that the Poles were mass slaughtering Germans who lived within Poland's new Borders, which should never have been. I'm wondering how they counted a German. I know that Hitler had a great deal of difficulty trying to determine who was jew. Riggs, claims the he had up to 150,000 jews in his army. One fourth was considered jew, and one eight generally was not.

You have aroused my curiousity. I know that something like 11 million Germans died in WWII.

The bulk of what Freedman is pretty easy to substantiate if you look around, even other jews support it.

Nick
12-08-2002, 12:30 AM
Since the Republican coalition (the Social Democrats, Catholic Centrists, Democrats) could not command a majority in the Reichstag. Dr. Bruning (a member of the Catholic Centre Party), the Chancellor from 1930 to 1932, could only rule by issuing emergency decrees. His unconstitutional and undemocratic rule made his government increasingly unpopular. The unpopularity of the government was shown in the presidential election of April 1932. The Republican coalition put forward Hindenburg. He was re-elected with nineteen million votes. But Hitler, who also entered himself for election, won thirteen and a half million votes. So it may not be far from truth by saying that at least 40% of the German people were more willing to support Hitler than the Republican government.

I'm not sure if this is right, but this is what I could find. So according to these figures, there were about 33,750,000 people in Germany in 1932 if the author literally meant "40% of all people". If he meant of total voters, well then the actual population could be anywhere from 40,000,000 to 60,000,000. I guess it all depends on voter turnout and such, and honestly im boring myself already.

Some of the stuff that Freedman said does make sense just from my past knowledge, but like all things I take it with a grain of salt.

This is strictly hypothetical, but Freedman's statements seem to imply that Germany was forced into WW1 and WW2 by the Jews. Therefore, the Zimmerman(if it is a Jewish name, and Zimmerman was Jewish) telegram would be seen as proof that the Jews wished to force war between the U.S. and Germany.

Now before you offer me a membership to the Aryan Nation:D (J/K) keep in mind that I'm making observations. Your threads do intrigue me, however, I still find the idea that the entire Jewish religion is seeking world domination through exploitation of global financial markets, while simutaniously corrupting world leaders to be rather unlikely. It just seems like a bad James Bond movie script:)

AverageJoe
12-08-2002, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by MorphicOutFielder
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Be careful with that hate. Hate is self destructive. I allow my self to get angry, but I always try to avoid hating, because I know that it would just eat me up.wow, that's funny, because it sure seems like you love to point fingers at every one else for all your problems. like those crazy black people and their sexual deviation that causes them to feel up perfectly innocent white girls, or the "jews" who run the media in some sort of zionist plot to take over the world. everyone is out to get you after all, right? if that's not hate, then i dont know what is.

Criminal
12-08-2002, 09:28 AM
History can be interpreted in many different ways so I see nothing wrong with posts like this. Its not necessarily hateful unless its interpreted that way.

I dont doubt that Zionists may have conspired to end Germany's participation in the war. During war powers make deals with anyone who can further their own means (like Germany did with Lennin who promised he could help them defeat Russia).

I personally dont think any of this gives the Germans the right to kill jews though.

Nick
12-08-2002, 09:50 AM
I personally dont think any of this gives the Germans the right to kill jews though.

I completely agree with Criminal on this. While nothing can rationalize genocide, there are interesting footnotes in History such as these which lend some credibility to Morphic's post.

In my opinion, if you wish to try to understand the post and others such as this, you must ignore things like the Holocaust for a minute just so that you are not blinded.

Do not think that I am denying the holocaust, for I truly believe it happened. Just understand that everything must be put in perspective.

MorphicOutFielder
12-08-2002, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by stanger87lx

Some of the stuff that Freedman said does make sense just from my past knowledge, but like all things I take it with a grain of salt.



Most of the stuff I post about jews comes from jews.

Here are exerpts from Chales Lindbergh's speech in Des Moines, Iowa in 1941.

National polls showed that when England and France declared war on Germany, in 1939, less than 10 percent of our population favored a similar course for America. But there were various groups of people, here and abroad, whose interests and beliefs necessitated the involvement of the United States in the war. I shall point out some of these groups tonight, and outline their methods of procedure. In doing this, I must speak with the utmost frankness, for in order to counteract their efforts, we must know exactly who they are.

The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish and the Roosevelt administration.......


....Let us consider these groups, one at a time.

First, the British: It is obvious and perfectly understandable that Great Britain wants the United States in the war on her side. England is now in a desperate position. Her population is not large enough and her armies are not strong enough to invade the continent of Europe and win the war she declared against Germany.

Her geographical position is such that she cannot win the war by the use of aviation alone, regardless of how many planes we send her. Even if America entered the war, it is improbable that the Allied armies could invade Europe and overwhelm the Axis powers. But one thing is certain. If England can draw this country into the war, she can shift to our shoulders a large portion of the responsibility for waging it and for paying its cost.

As you all know, we were left with the debts of the last European war; and unless we are more cautious in the future than we have been in the past, we will be left with the debts of the present case. If it were not for her hope that she can make us responsible for the war financially, as well as militarily, I believe England would have negotiated a peace in Europe many months ago, and be better off for doing so.

England has devoted, and will continue to devote every effort to get us into the war. We know that she spent huge sums of money in this country during the last war in order to involve us. Englishmen have written books about the cleverness of its use.

We know that England is spending great sums of money for propaganda in America during the present war. If we were Englishmen, we would do the same. But our interest is first in America; and as Americans, it is essential for us to realize the effort that British interests are making to draw us into their war.

The second major group I mentioned is the Jewish.

It is not difficult to understand why Jewish people desire the overthrow of Nazi Germany. The persecution they suffered in Germany would be sufficient to make bitter enemies of any race.

No person with a sense of the dignity of mankind can condone the persecution of the Jewish race in Germany. But no person of honesty and vision can look on their pro-war policy here today without seeing the dangers involved in such a policy both for us and for them. Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way for they will be among the first to feel its consequences.

(Zionists are self destructive.) See:http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/ampp.html

Tolerance is a virtue that depends upon peace and strength. History shows that it cannot survive war and devastations. A few far-sighted Jewish people realize this and stand opposed to intervention. But the majority still do not.

Their greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government.

(Already in 1941)

I am not attacking either the Jewish or the British people. Both races, I admire. But I am saying that the leaders of both the British and the Jewish races, for reasons which are as understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war.

We cannot blame them for looking out for what they believe to be their own interests, but we also must look out for ours. We cannot allow the natural passions and prejudices of other peoples to lead our country to destruction.

The Roosevelt administration is the third powerful group which has been carrying this country toward war. Its members have used the war emergency to obtain a third presidential term for the first time in American history. They have used the war to add unlimited billions to a debt which was already the highest we have ever known. And they have just used the war to justify the restriction of congressional power, and the assumption of dictatorial procedures on the part of the president and his appointees.

The power of the Roosevelt administration depends upon the maintenance of a wartime emergency. (And today?)

The prestige of the Roosevelt administration depends upon the success of Great Britain to whom the president attached his political future at a time when most people thought that England and France would easily win the war. The danger of the Roosevelt administration lies in its subterfuge. While its members have promised us peace, they have led us to war heedless of the platform upon which they were elected.

In selecting these three groups as the major agitators for war, I have included only those whose support is essential to the war party. If any one of these groups--the British, the Jewish, or the administration--stops agitating for war, I believe there will be little danger of our involvement.




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