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Proletarian
11-13-2002, 08:23 PM
A horrible thing happened this year, the Republicans did realy well in the Election, and let me tell you it is going to be a very large in the Democrat bum. THe worst thing that will come out of this is the judges, due to the fact that they will be sitting there for many years to come and here is what we have at stake.

- the revesal of such things like Roe V. Wade
- the cases concerning the protecton of free speach.
- the possiblity of more judges from the Rehnquist school of Judges.
- deciding on how far Bush can go on his war on terror within the country
- and many more VERY important issues!

Well that is the bad part, but here is the Democrats solution.

- FILIBUSTER
- If the democrats can continue the filibusters long enough they will be able to secure enough posts till 2004
- Dont worry the REpublicans did this a lot during the Clinton years and other times in history.
- IF the Democrats stand up in this way and proclaim their intention, they will not be seen as the spineless cowards that lost 2002

That is my solution to the TOP Democratic pain in the BUM, now act on it.

CYLLON
11-13-2002, 08:32 PM
as opposed to actually following the constatution and not being activist judges.

Darn good.

Georgia Republican John Linder, who introduced the FairTax plan into the current congress as HR 2525.has the bush bunch giving it serious consideration.Maybe the courts will finaly see the income tax for what it is.Unconstatutional.

Free speech.
ROFLMAO

Leftist would not know what it was if it fell on them.Just go to university sponsered debate.

As opposed to the socialist potential minority leader.Oh ya,we need more of that in the courts dont we.

In the wake of last week?s Republican election blowout we?re starting to see a revival of the ?E? word. Every where you look the media and the Democrats are referring to conservatives and Republicans as ?extremists.?

Remember this. Whenever you hear a politician or a media pundit blurt out the ?extremist? word you know that they are substituting rhetoric for oratory. They know that a large part of their under-educated constituency is intellectually incapable of understanding the facts and nuances surrounding the various issues that comprise our political debate in 2002. To appeal to these mindless voters the left just goes for the ?extremist? label. They don?t? need to tell their followers why they disagree with the conservative viewpoint ? or why the conservative viewpoint is wrong. All they feel they have to do is label it as ?extreme? and they?re home free.

Not unlike your extreme scare list.
the list is crap.try scarring somewhere else.not gonna work here.

This is not worth a spell check.

Proletarian
11-13-2002, 08:38 PM
really that bad? please do tell how my "scare list" is wrong!

CYLLON
11-13-2002, 09:23 PM
In a letter to the editor of the Lincoln Journal Star (third letter) Randall Rimkovsky weighs in:

The dictatorship begins as the diabolical Republican party rises to power.

We will see senior citizens shivering, begging for food, and dying a tortuous [sic] death after George W. Bush shoves them into the streets.

Hospitals and care facilities will suffer neglect as the attention to health care is diverted by the worship of war.

Calamity inevitably abounds. Terrorists will unleash horror as we've never seen before, because the warmongering dictator, George W. Bush, will now have his way, and the terrorists are really going to get mad at us now.

Pollution will proliferate and thousands will perish by poisoning through our food, water and air. The delicate environment will deteriorate before our very eyes.

Children, especially black children, will starve in our schools. Schools? What am I saying? There won't be any schools.

Black Americans and all Americans of color will now be thrust into oblivion as affirmative action is thrashed and discrimination flourishes throughout the nation. We will see unemployment numbers among minority citizens soar like never before.

Corporate executives will line their pockets with gold while we watch the average workers' income plunge.

Roe vs. Wade is inevitably history, and we will see stories abound of bloodied girls in the streets desperately trying to rid themselves of the horrible inconvenience of an illegitimate child.

Yes, the dictatorship begins. George W. Bush and the diabolical Republicans will reign over a nation of barbaric horror.

As we all know, there are many cable news networks that are constantly battling each other to increase their respective audience.

We undoubtedly will have the ugly misfortune of witnessing these deliberate acts of violence upon our nation.

Is Rimkovsky {and proletarian**a brilliant satirist or just a nut? We report, you decide.

Prove something untrue that has yet to happen.??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????

Its your job to prove they will.You made the list.the burden is on you.Tipickle old stratagy by the left.Scare tactics.

QtrHrsmn
11-13-2002, 09:32 PM
Thanks Cyllon, you did it for me...LOL I really wasn't up for a leftie smash tonight.

CYLLON
11-13-2002, 09:50 PM
The Democratic Party has come to believe its own propaganda. I suppose they will continue to believe this, and continue to say it, in voices growing ever more shrill and ever more loud, yet, oddly, ever more distant and faint.

Corporate Avenger
11-13-2002, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by CYLLON
The Democratic Party has come to believe its own propaganda. I suppose they will continue to believe this, and continue to say it, in voices growing ever more shrill and ever more loud, yet, oddly, ever more distant and faint.


Yet you fall for the Rightest propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

You don't believe what they tell you about the drug war yet you believe every other piece of propaganda they spit out.

And your rantings are getting crazier by the day..

Monster
11-13-2002, 11:05 PM
For the second time I will say this...

Everybody falls prey to the propaganda they agree with in the first place. Yes, it is possible that the Dems now believe their own propaganda, but by the same token you have come to believe your own, too, CYLLON.

And what if someone runs for Democratic office who believes the propaganda? Wouldn't they be more likely to stand up for what all the propaganda says instead of folding?

And as for leftists not knowing about free speech, let us not forget that every single social statement made in this country's history, ESPECIALLY IN THE THEATRE, was made by liberals who are, by definition, Left. "HAIR" was liberal, and Left, and pushed the limits of free speech. George Carlin's "Seven Dirty Words" pushed the limits of free speech...and you know why we can't swear on public TV or radio, even when there are warnings given? BECAUSE A CONSERVATIVE RIGHTIST MINISTER WROTE A LETTER SAYING IT OFFENDED HIM TO HEAR GEORGE CARLIN'S "SEVEN DIRTY WORDS" ROUTINE! All challenges to freedom of speech have come from conservatives, and if you wish to debate me on that topic, who was opposed to "negro" instead of "******" or "black" instead of "negro" or "African-American" instead of "black" hmmm? Was it the liberals? *BUZZ* WRONG! It was the ultra-right wing fanatics who were against it.

I agree with CA, your rantings are so rediculous I may just add you to my ignore list.

Proletarian
11-14-2002, 11:44 AM
I can see my topic has been taken to heart by lots of you. There are some issues id like to fix though.

- how is this "scare list" any different from the Right Wing rants about their guns and their religion.

- no im not a satirist, but thanks for saying the brilliant part.

- "socialist potential minority leader" um yah what dopse that mean, its more Right Wing Cheap shots, no more gore, no more clinton, who to make fun of??????????

- to the first articel posted by cyllon, its radical, but ive seen the same from limbaugh.

Interesting, i didnt know this was going to flame, ohwell continue!

CYLLON
11-14-2002, 08:30 PM
both ypu guys should see the PELOSI thread.The socialist link is hard pat.

You still have not backed up your list Pro.

And if a liberatarian is a right winger than I am guilty babby.

Stage,you know darn well that the left lables those not centrist or toward them just as much as the rightwinged fallwell types do.

Selecting a few example s{wether good ones or not** hardly proves your rant.

Mr. belafontes rant about Powel,David horowitz,the former leftist sixties radical now conservative gets bad mouthed all the time.He is an outspoken opponent of censorship and racial preferences, and a defender of the rights of minorities and other groups under attack ? including the rights of blacks, gays, women, Jews, Muslims, Christians and white males."

The recent visit to Swarthmore
proves my point,as does Haverford,where the conservative was accused of provided "a forum for hate speech." that speaker was Christina Hoff Sommers.
Columbia, where the conservatives were Essentially told by Columbia that the speakers could still deliver their remarks, but the people who had traveled to the conference could not gather to hear them. Banning the spectators instead of the speakers is certainly a unique way to censor an event." http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives/1998/12-9-98/pg1.htm

In april,students attempted to physically attack Ann Coulter -- forcing police to intervene to protect her -- during an appearance at Cornell University. The world took little note of the incident, but it speaks volumes about the state of higher education and of an academic culture that is anything but.

Dan Eberhart, approached the Assistant Vice Chancellor and head of Student Life, at Vandebilt,Michelle Rosen, to gain approval for his group, she told him, "there is no need for your organization because a student group already exists, namely the Speakers Committee." This was an Orwellian subterfuge. The Assistant Vice Chancellor knew that the Speakers Committee was a partisan student group dedicated to bringing left-wing speakers to the Vanderbilt campus.

Again,at a columbia conference, Ward Connerly, the University of California drew the notice of the multicultural mob, which operates on the assumption that what it finds disagreeable is indisputably racist and therefore must be crushed under a jackbooted heel.

About 100 noisy protesters showed up to denounce the gathering. They chanted, made faces, waved placards and engaged in other substitutes for thought.

The administration, which was looking for an excuse to cancel the conference, forced AIA to pay an addition $3,200 for extra security.

"We've never had free speech in this country," professed Patricia L. Keeton of Ramapo College. This 'so why start now' characterized the tone of the "When Hate Groups Target Campus Newspapers" panel at the Modern Language Association's (MLA) annual convention in New Orleans. More than 10,000 academics convened in the Big Easy for hundreds of panel discussions on various topics, including "hate speech."

When the panel spotted this reporter's MLA badge reading "Accuracy in Academia," Bill Mullen of the University of Texas-San Antonio asked, "What's Accuracy in Academia?" Jeffery Ross of the Anti Defamation League (ADL) answered: "It's a spin off of Accuracy In Media. A conservative group." Upon hearing this, the panel prohibited Accuracy in Academia from recording the presentation, claiming the MLA had rules against recording. Nowhere in the MLA's program does it list any ban on recording. Other panels had no problems with being taped. Some sessions were even videotaped.

Horowitz again:
"On October 9, I spoke at the Glenn Memorial Auditorium at the invitation of Emory College Republicans. My topic was "Political Bias in the University" and when my remarks were concluded there was a question period. The entire evening was refreshingly civil. The day after, however, Candace Bacchus, the president of the Black Student Alliance sent a letter to university president William Chace and other campus authorities protesting my appearance.

Ms. Bacchus accused the university of making security arrangements that targeted African Americans in order "to tame us." She blamed the College Republicans because I had apparently strayed from the topic she had approved ("Horowitz confirmed our fear of his appearance by offering unsolicited commentary on the issue of reparations and the state of Black America.") She further accused me of "public insult, mockery, and humiliation" of African American, Arab and Latin American students because I criticized reparations, condemned suicide bombings and spoke disparagingly of Fidel Castro?s repressive regime in Cuba. Finally, she demanded an apology to these groups from the College Republicans and a refund of the money I had been paid for my speech.

We can go on with examples.Both sides do it.I dont like either the rigtwingers or the left wingers.Both are dangerouse so dont lable me as one of them
i did not vote for Shrub either.

Ignore away if ya cant handel it.

CYLLON
11-14-2002, 08:34 PM
You don't believe what they tell you about the drug war yet you believe every other piece of propaganda they spit out.

And allthis knowlege gleaned from just a few posts.

Oh what a crystal ball you must have.

i dont beleive a lot more and if yo read through this site you would see that I dont.
In fact,my next post will be on my thread about the computer database reagons buddy poindexter wants.The little tyrant puke.

CYLLON
11-14-2002, 08:48 PM
Maybe you should get Bill Moyer to defend the list for you.

In 1994, Republicans who won control of Congress made abolition of public broadcasting a major goal, contending that it was a platform for a liberal agenda. That never panned out. Then, in 1999, Republicans renewed their attacks on PBS after reports that some stations were sharing donor lists with Democratic political organizations. It was learned later that Republicans were also getting the lists.

Neither bunch is worth a damn!!
Vote libertarian and get us out of this mess.

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