WTF, I've been labelled as someone on the far left of politics. I consider myself anti-nazi, anti-white supremist, but that in no way makes me a communist, nor a socialist. The fact that I don't like white supremists does not make me a left winger. It makes me someone who has morals. To all those people who want to label people, because they feel a need to, :p

No, morals aren't yours to claim.

That's like claiming the grace of God is on your side.

:bs:

Justin

Originally posted by Unrepresented
No, morals aren't yours to claim.

That's like claiming the grace of God is on your side.

:bs:

Justin
Justin is Wrong......put that in your sig;)

Oh to be self-righteous again, like in the old days....

like last week:D

Justin

WTF, I've been labelled as someone on the far left of politics. I consider myself anti-nazi, anti-white supremist

Don't you mean anti-White?

Originally posted by Unrepresented
Oh to be self-righteous again, like in the old days....

like last week:D

Justin I'm sorry if you think I'm a leftist. I don't consider myself that, but if you do, it's all good. Peace?:) PS, I don't know why Frank is posting here. He knows I ignore him..;)

PS, I don't know why Frank is posting here. He knows I ignore him..

Read the above quote, you did not ignore me. :p :p :p

Sorry Mods just having a little fun with this guy.

Well, see where you stand on the spectrum...

www.politicalcompass.org

Me


Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.49

Me:

Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 3.08

I am a Right-Wing Authoritarian! COOL:cool:

Originally posted by Powerboss
Well, see where you stand on the spectrum...

www.politicalcompass.org Holy crap, I am slightly to the left of the spectrum,and I'm closer to libertarian than authoritarian. I'm so close to the middle (one square), that you could could almost call me in the middle. Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.18 Definately closer to Ghandi, but not quite....

Me


Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.46

I'm in about the same place as Ghandi.
It makes me a left wing Libertarian.

That's funny, a lot of people here consider me right wing.

Holy crap!

I shifted a bunch!

Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.64

I'm becoming centrist in my economic leanings! Augghhh!

The end is near!

Justin

Originally posted by Unrepresented
Holy crap!

I shifted a bunch!

Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.64

I'm becoming centrist in my economic leanings! Augghhh!

The end is near!

Justin You're accusing me of being of being "resident leftist" ,yet you are more leftist and libertarian than me....the irony!!:D

Originally posted by Unrepresented
Holy crap!

I shifted a bunch!

Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.64

I'm becoming centrist in my economic leanings! Augghhh!

The end is near!

Justin

Ah Ha!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew I was having a profound affect on you!;)

Dont worry though, I have shifted slightly in the opposite direction as well. Not quite as much of a shift as you but a slight shift nonetheless.

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.28

^Whoah... can you say "hippie"?

Originally posted by Betty
^Whoah... can you say "hippie"?

no...but i can say radical

I guess I'm a realist. How can a country really function with a totally right-wing government. Just look at Nazi Germany, Austria.... All those fascist governments....
But a totally leftist country doesn't survive ie Albania, Soviet Union...
China may call itself communist, but it's close to the middle beacause of its capitolism.....
Being close to the middle means you're slightly cynical, and yet hoping that many other non-extremists can unite to make a positive change, This change, as history dictates, is not expelling ethnic groups, although illegal immigration must be stopped, not saying one group is superior to another (what a STUPID thing), making the state own everything is not an option either, as it totally goes against human instinct (what's wrong with posessing personal property). The government should help those who could use the help, but only for a limited time. There are certain types of criminals who can't be rehabilitated, why waste money on them? A bird whispered in my ear that I'm racist against white people. Fact: Myfather is white, he raised me. Fact: most of my friends are white. Fact: I hate people who are racist against black people,(or white people )whether those people are black,white, mexican ,pakistani or asian. Fact; I may have been raised in Australia, but i've never called myself australian, and I've always said http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/aproudam.gif Anyone doesn't like me for my views?

I dig. I dunno what to call myself...

My politics don't necesarilly fit into any specific "group", I'm too liberal to be conservative, and too conservative to be liberal, depending on the issue.

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 2.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 4.00

Kitty told me that the most racist people against whites usually are self-hating whites or semi-whites, However he did not finish as a he ate a bird who had a conversation with a self-loathing semi-white.

:D :D :D

Diab - I've been off the board for a couple days and missed a lot of posts - so I'm not exactly sure where you get the idea that you were labeled the resident leftist.

I used that term immediately after one of your posts in the "Attn all military members" post. I was not, however, referring to you. That reference went to the the statements made by CA, which Powerboss cited when he started the thread.

I highly doubt that you're a leftist - your posts don't strike me as such.

Perhaps that reference is not what drove this post - but if it was, know that there was a misunderstanding involved.

Interesting....

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.23

Originally posted by green68stang
Diab - I've been off the board for a couple days and missed a lot of posts - so I'm not exactly sure where you get the idea that you were labeled the resident leftist.

I used that term immediately after one of your posts in the "Attn all military members" post. I was not, however, referring to you. That reference went to the the statements made by CA, which Powerboss cited when he started the thread.

I highly doubt that you're a leftist - your posts don't strike me as such.

Perhaps that reference is not what drove this post - but if it was, know that there was a misunderstanding involved. It was a post from Justin in the "Neo -Nazi' thread.

It turns out that I'm a tree-hugger.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.79

Originally posted by Dilbert
It turns out that I'm a tree-hugger.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.79 Cool.:werd:

Keep in mind this test was constructed by a Libertarian group, Im pretty sure and the questions have been framed in a certain manner....some I didnt particularily like and had a hard time deciding wheather or not I agree or disagree on a few of them.

PB - Was it? I seem to recall that this one was designed solely to be objective and unbiased, and was created by a group of British university lecturers. When it was first posted here, however, a Libertarian [Snouter, Eanax, or 'Stang maybe?] commented they disliked oit and preferred a similarily aimed one which was created by only Rand's most devout followers.

I am economic -9, political -7.54. More extreme than before economically, but a little less Libertarian/Anarchist.

Originally posted by Diabhal
It was a post from Justin in the "Neo -Nazi' thread.

Diabhal, I'm not all that "left" myself, although I'm sure my critics will argue otherwise:p.

I wasn't intending to suggest that you're a socialist, I was simply saying that I agree with you that racial seperatism strikes me as being a poor concept for distributing freedoms to the majority. I agree with you on that issue, and that's not particularly "left" or "right" in the traditional economic sense.

Being an "egalitarian" as Frank enjoys calling us, is not the sign of anything more than a stance on a single issue.

In fact, your leanings so far aside from that have been fairly absent. It would be incorrect for anyone to try to pin you down since you don't participate too frequently in the political forums beyond that topic.

My complaint was on the level of maturity that I felt you were demonstrating for US in this particular topic. That was the extent of my complaint, nothing beyond that.

Justin

Originally posted by Powerboss


Ah Ha!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew I was having a profound affect on you!;)

Dont worry though, I have shifted slightly in the opposite direction as well. Not quite as much of a shift as you but a slight shift nonetheless.

I was around 3 something to the left before, which struck me as a bit more extreme than I thought of myself, this actually seems closer to the way I view myself.

But I'll let you gloat if you'd like;)

Justin

This is a "gloat free" message board.:p




Joey....You may be right, I am not 100 percent certain about it.....I was trying to access my memory and it seems that issue was discussed a while back and that is all I can remember from it.
NOTHING is unbiased though.

Originally posted by Unrepresented


Diabhal, I'm not all that "left" myself, although I'm sure my critics will argue otherwise:p.

I wasn't intending to suggest that you're a socialist, I was simply saying that I agree with you that racial seperatism strikes me as being a poor concept for distributing freedoms to the majority. I agree with you on that issue, and that's not particularly "left" or "right" in the traditional economic sense.

Being an "egalitarian" as Frank enjoys calling us, is not the sign of anything more than a stance on a single issue.

In fact, your leanings so far aside from that have been fairly absent. It would be incorrect for anyone to try to pin you down since you don't participate too frequently in the political forums beyond that topic.

My complaint was on the level of maturity that I felt you were demonstrating for US in this particular topic. That was the extent of my complaint, nothing beyond that.

Justin I'll admit all of my post havem't been that mature. Sometimes I just get in that kind of mood. I was playing devil's advocate by suggesting one word frankly meant neo-nazi.
It's human nature to be in different moods at different times. I hope we can still discuss stuff in a positive manner.

Here's your chance to find out the political sway of DA. Be honest, and you'll get and honest overview. www.politicalcompass.org mine was Economic Left/Right: -1.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.18



Please share your result...:p

we have already done this... TWICE

there is another thread you started with the same stuff in it.




n/m I just merged the 2 threads

Originally posted by Kraw
we have already done this... TWICE

there is another thread you started with the same stuff in it.




n/m I just merged the 2 threads Thankyou for merging the threads, but the subjects were slightly different, and I saw no need for the merging.:|

Originally posted by Unrepresented
No, morals aren't yours to claim.

That's like claiming the grace of God is on your side.

:bs:

Justin
Well I am God and if I say I am on your side than thats how it is!:p

Originally posted by Powerboss
Well, see where you stand on the spectrum...

www.politicalcompass.org

Woo hoo! My politics were in the same quadrant with Gandhi!:D

my numbers on the chart were Economic Left/Right -2.00
and Authoritarian/Libertarian -3.85
I thought I was more conservative than that, to be honest.

Originally posted by Diabhal
WTF, I've been labelled as someone on the far left of politics. I consider myself anti-nazi, anti-white supremist, but that in no way makes me a communist, nor a socialist. The fact that I don't like white supremists does not make me a left winger. It makes me someone who has morals. To all those people who want to label people, because they feel a need to, :p

Hmm, if your avatar is any indication, then your a lefty. I don't know many right wingers who use Mac's, just you artsy fartsy, tree hugger, PC, peace loving democrat types. LOL.

Originally posted by 86Dude


Hmm, if your avatar is any indication, then your a lefty. I don't know many right wingers who use Mac's, just you artsy fartsy, tree hugger, PC, peace loving democrat types. LOL. LOL!:D

Joey, I think I may have mentioned I thought the underlying assumptions within the questions required the answers to be qualified which is possible with the agree or disagree choices.

Here is page 2 of 6 for discussion.

Class background determines peoples' consciousness more than their membership of a particular nation.

What country are they referring to? There aren't official classes in America except celebrities and non-celebrities. I would guess it implies that different people within one country can experience different realities as a result of personal wealth or lack thereof. So I agree money has advantages, but disagree that people are unable to change their economic circumstances.


Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.

There are controversial economic theories regarding the relationship between the two. In a free market, no "control" is needed at all other than insuring anti-trust and other laws are not broken.

Corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily respect the environment.

Generally man is a corrupt creature and the entities he creates will also be corrupt. Laws must be in place to insure he conforms his activities to minimize the destructive aspects of business. Corporations are extensions of man but are immune to consistent application of laws. This is the fault of state and federal legislators for taxing businesses so much and not providing enough benefits to encourage processes that respect the environment. I would agree.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need is a fundamentally good idea.

This is a very Marxist concept. I would disagree.

It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a consumer product.

What country are we taking about? Water has to be used prudently to avoid shortages. I small fee is reasonable if people are too lazy to collect rain water or dig wells on their property.

Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.

Disagree. It would not be taken care of and respected unless it was privately owned.

Many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society.

I would agree. Wall Street and many corporations are run by scam artists and do not abide by the law.

Protectionism is sometimes a necessary element in trade.

I would agree. If a foreign country is violating trade rules and flooding the market by dramatically undercutting the competition only to get customers who are later victimized by higher prices, the home country should protect its businesses.

The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.

That is not a social responsibility that is a financial responsibility. Social responsibility will follow from financial responsilibity. Without a profit, the company will have to close down so break even or profit first and the rest will follow.

The rich are too highly taxed.

How are the quantifying rich? Everyone is too highly taxed.

Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care and education.

I would agree that those will the ability to pay can pay for anything they want. I don't think there is any magical medical care or magical education that money can buy though.

We'd be better off if companies simply told the truth, rather than spending a fortune on manipulative consumer advertising.

I would strongly agree.

The freer the market, the freer the people.

True in the sense that Marxist style, collective markets enslave
people.


There are enough problems with the question and possible answers to discourage me from completing the test. Maybe I will try later sometime.

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.15


I'm close to Ghandi...cool.
I never thought I'd say this, but I actually have to agree with Powerboss (*gasp*) on his statement that some of the questions appear to be worded for a specific answer. I don't think it was done to benefit any particular party, but I think that the questions were written to make certain answers unavoidable.

Also, I don't particularly like any of the political party options currently available in the U.S. The independent parties are single platform parties with plans to solve only one issue and no plans for anything else (like health care, economy, etc.); the Republicans have a basic philosophy that I simply do not agree with; the Democrats have been pulled so far to the middle of the road that the party leaders are either too timid to make their views known or are somehow aligning themselves with the Democrats when they're basically confused Republicans.

I have friends that have been with me for years and still don't know my politics--hell, I still don't know my politics fully...I'm just one big conundrum. I'm of the opinion that the country needs a great big overhaul politically, so whether that puts me as a "liberal" or a "conservative" depending on your views, I say anyone who tries labelling me is wrong. I don't fit molds. Intentionally.

In short, if you wanna know my opinion on a particular issue feel free to ask me, but as for my overall political alignment, uh....I dunno.

--Super Zach

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.00

Originally posted by 86Dude


Hmm, if your avatar is any indication, then your a lefty. I don't know many right wingers who use Mac's, just you artsy fartsy, tree hugger, PC, peace loving democrat types. LOL.

Hey, I'm a directing major, and I've been a theatre person my entire life and I have yet to WILLINGLY use a Mac.

Oh yeah, I'm politcally confused too, so that 'democrat' thing doesn't stick so well either.

So there. :p

--Zach

I question this test when it was says Hitler was not that far right.

My results:

econmic left/right -7.12

authortitarian/libertarian -6.46