What is a Neo-Con?

[Dreamy]

I see this term thrown out everywhere but just when I think I know what it covers I am told something new. I read that Neocons originated around the early 1970's when the McGovern "doves" and the "Scoop" Jackson "hawks" parted ways. The McGovern side won the day in the Democratic party and the Scoop Jackson side eventually migrated over to the GOP and became the neo-conservative wing aka neo-con.

Pat Buchanon calls neo-cons "the boat people of the Democratic party".

Accurate? Neocons are actually Dems who took over and control the GOP?



Neoconservatives are the boat people of the McGovern revolution. Buchanan

– Where the Right Went Wrong
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I have always liked Buchanan. His comments on Ron Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQBZmsQEd8&feature=player_embedded

[86Dùde]

Originally, they were liberals who embraced the types of things true conservatives would not. The problem is simply that since the the fall of the Soviet Union, the term is used too loosely and is associated too much with the Bush II administration.

[Dreamy]

Originally, they were liberals who embraced the types of things true conservatives would not. The problem is simply that since the the fall of the Soviet Union, the term is used too loosely and is associated too much with the Bush II administration.

That is where my confusion has lied. I see it often bantered around by the left as if Bush is the poster boy for neo-con when in truth the neo-con faction is a spin off of the Democrat Party.

[AlbertJ]

Neo-con is short for neo-confederate.

It refers to those people here who support racist views similiar to those of Ron Paul.

[Šñøü†ê®]

A classic example of a neo-con is David Horowitz. One of the most dangerous is Bill Kristol. Neo-cons are responsible for death and destruction that makes dictators of the past roll in their graves.

[86Dùde]

Neo-con is short for neo-confederate.

It refers to those people here who support racist views similiar to those of Ron Paul.

You can't be that ^ stupid.

[Šñøü†ê®]

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[caddis]

It's come to mean "Any jew or zion-supporting-joo-loving Republican that favors strong national defense that involves action instead of ceding power to the UN Security Council"


.....Or something

[Sparkly Mary]

You can't be that ^ stupid.

Yes. Yes he can be, and is.

[Cyclone Ranger]

The early neo-cons, like Irving Kristol, were Sixties leftists who were converted to a more hawkish foreign policy outlook via the political philosophy of Leo Strauss during the Reagan era. However, many of the younger neo-cons were always right-wing

[KillZone]

What is a Neo-Con?

A term that means whatever I want it to mean.:)

It ain't used as a compliment as far as I've seen.:)

[Powerboss]

Dreamy, you'll get a lot of different answers. Many neocons were once Democrats but when the Democrat party turned sharply left, and left them coupled with them growing up and becoming more wise, they found their views more aligned with the Conservative philosophy as where all intelligent thoughtful people end up.

[Cyclone Ranger]

I don't see a lot of evidence of high former Democrat participation amongst the neo-cons. They were Troskyiite radicals, not mainstream liberals.

Neoconservatism is primarily a foreign policy ideology.

[jwreck]

Bush is the perfect neo-con. Socially conservative fiscally liberal nation builder out to show the world that he know's what's best for them. Much like Obama...

[Cyclone Ranger]

Obama is hardly socially conservative.

[Notalibtard]

Obama is hardly socially conservative.

You got that one right Bubba

[jwreck]

Obama is hardly socially conservative.Didn't say he was.

[Cyclone Ranger]

You said he was much like Obama, although perhaps you mean Obama isn't like bush in all ways, only most. Of course, that isn't true either.

[BooRadley]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#Leo_Strauss_and_his_students

It's basically a self-destrictive and parasitic political philosophy starting with Leo Strauss and working it's way down to most of the players in teh Bush Administration. They took over the GOP, and thats' what a lot of the infighting in the party is about, right now. Look at Bill Kristol and Paul Wolfowits, Rumsfeld and his boy Dick Cheney, and Bolton are examples of the philosophy in action. Basically, the opposite of what Bush campaigned as in 2000, but exactly what he did. A summary from wikipedia:

* a tendency to see the world in binary good/evil terms
* low tolerance for diplomacy
* readiness to use military force
* emphasis on US unilateral action
* disdain for multilateral organizations
* focus on the Middle East
* an us-versus-them mentality".

Based on personal experience in DC, they don't really like democracy much, either, and often (in private) endorse the kind of lying and propaganda abuse that you see on Fox because they don't think the rank-and-file "the stupid people" are smart enough to know what's best. They definitely believe in severe top-down leadership, and think the very concept of ethics is just a control mechanism for "the stupid people". They're fiercelly pro-Israel, as well. They also don't tend to understand the idea of actions and consequences. They do the kind of things that -- well, that they did when they were in power during the Bush Error, which was all a complete disaster, none of which they take any responsibility for.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

I don't see a lot of evidence of high former Democrat participation amongst the neo-cons. They were Troskyiite radicals, not mainstream liberals.

[b]Neoconservatism is primarily a foreign policy ideology[b/].

Pretty much. There were five of them, but I can only recall Horowitz and Kristol.

As the term is (mis)used these days, there isn't any real difference between neo-cons and neo-liberals outside of rhetoric; both are shills for that 'Globalism' scam and selling out of U.S. sovereignty, massive corporate welfare. international financial swindling, and slave labor for 'everybody else', so the differences don't matter any more.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

Dreamy, you'll get a lot of different answers. Many neocons were once Democrats but when the Democrat party turned sharply left, and left them coupled with them growing up and becoming more wise, they found their views more aligned with the Conservative philosophy as where all intelligent thoughtful people end up.

Name a neo-con who was ever a Democrat. Horowitz was one of the owners of Ramparts magazine, and played a key role in bashing Democrats, including many of the demonstrations at Democratic Conventions in the '60's and 70's. Kristol was never a Democrat; he might have been a writer or advisor to a far left candidate somewhere, but certainly never a Party man. They hated Democrats worse than they hated Republicans.

At least they finally realized that the Soviets were the major warmongers, not the U.S., unlike the Useful Idiots littering message boards and regurgitating silly, ridiculous old KGB propaganda to this day.

[Guido]

Name a neo-con who was ever a Democrat. Horowitz was one of the owners of Ramparts magazine, and played a key role in bashing Democrats, including many of the demonstrations at Democratic Conventions in the '60's and 70's. Kristol was never a Democrat; he might have been a writer or advisor to a far left candidate somewhere, but certainly never a Party man. They hated Democrats worse than they hated Republicans.

At least they finally realized that the Soviets were the major warmongers, not the U.S., unlike the Useful Idiots littering message boards and regurgitating silly, ridiculous old KGB propaganda to this day.

Sen Henry "Scoop" Jackson was a Democrap, like the early neocons who actively supported him including Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Perle. Jean Kirkpatrick was a Democrat. Norman Podhoretz was certainly a leftist (not sure if he was a Democrat) in the 1950s.

[Powerboss]

I don't see a lot of evidence of high former Democrat participation amongst the neo-cons. They were Troskyiite radicals, not mainstream liberals.

Then let me provide you with the evidence you moron. Bill Bennett, Charles Krauthammer, Michael Medved, Dennis Prager to name a few.


Neoconservatism is primarily a foreign policy ideology.

No it's just another one of those moronic assignment labels.
Like any ideology, there are spectrum's across it from moderate to extreme.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

Sen Henry "Scoop" Jackson was a Democrap, like the early neocons who actively supported him including Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, and Richard Perle. Jean Kirkpatrick was a Democrat. Norman Podhoretz was certainly a leftist (not sure if he was a Democrat) in the 1950s.

Jackson was a Cold Warrior, nothing 'neo' about Jackson.

Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle were never Socialists, hence 'neo' doesn't apply to them, either.

Kirkpatrick was indeed a 'neo-con', she was a Socialist who supported an aggressive foreign policy against the Soviets, lots of Trotskyites did, but just because she supported a Republican foreign hawk or two doesn't mean she was ever a former Democrat. She supported Humphrey and Moynihan, Liberal hawks, on foreign policy issues, but nobody runs around claiming Humphrey and Moynihan were 'neo-cons', do they?

Most Liberals were Cold Warriors, including the Kennedys; they weren't Neo-Cons.

Podhoretz was never a Socialist, he just started calling himself a 'Neo-Con' because it was a new, fashionable buzz word for his magazine audience; Israel became a key foreign policy issue under Carter and he backed a more aggressive, liberal foreign policy over Carter's appeasement of Islamo-Vermin re the Middle East.

The term 'Neo-Con' is misused by the clueless, and doesn't make any sense outside of referring to Kristol, Horowitz, and a few others. Just because media airheads are confused and don't use the term correctly doesn't change anything.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

No it's just another one of those moronic assignment labels.

More or less true, but at one time, before confused morons in the media began misusing it, it had a specific meaning.

[Going Postal]

What are Neoconservatives, what do they believe and why should I care?

Neoconservatives or “Neocons” believe that the United States should always feel free to use its forceful powers to promote its ideals around the world. Neocons speak of the need to cultivate a global US empire. Neoconservatives believe in a US ruled New World Empire or “New World Order.”

The original Neoconservatives were a small group of mostly Jewish liberal intellectuals who, in the 1960s and 70s, grew disenchanted with what they saw as the American left’s social excesses and reluctance to spend adequately on defense to support the Israeli/US alliance of power. Many of these Neocons worked in the 1970s for Democratic Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson.


By the 1980s, many Jewish Neocons had become Republicans, finding in President Ronald Reagan an avenue for their aggressive approach toward a New World Order in which America is the controlling Empire with Israel by its side.

Leftist Neocon, Irving Kristol once remarked, “a Neoconservative is a liberal who was mugged by reality and wants to press charges.” Meaning that Neoconservatives have a self-righteous revenge agenda, when it comes to what they consider to be the role of Jews in the world.

Both Jewish Neoconservatives and the Bush administration’s “Compassionate Conservatives” share unwavering support for Israel, which they see as crucial to US empowerment in the Middle East. They see Israel as a key military outpost. Neo-cons believe that anti-Americanism and anti-globalization is unwarranted. Neocons advocate the entire destruction and rebuilding of the Middle East into a US dominated political and financial transformation of the region, starting with Iraq. “Compassionate Conservatives” are Christian Zionist Conservatives. Jewish Neoconservatives are Jewish Zionists.

The US/Israel occupation of Arab land and the security of Israel remains a fundamental principal to be upheld by Neoconservatives in the US Government who traditionally support whatever Israeli government is in power. Especially since 1993 and the Oslo peace accords, the US Government Neocons became much more closely identified with the views of the right-wing Likud Party which opposed the Oslo peace treaties.

The neo-conservative identification with Israel can be explained in part by its predominantly Jewish membership, but Christian neo-conservatives very much share the sense that a strategic alliance with Israel constitutes a moral imperative in a post-Holocaust era.

Even though there are a number of prominent Christian Conservatives who currently hold neo-conservative beliefs. These Christian Neocons prefer to call themselves by a term that George W. Bush himself coined, “Compassionate Conservative.” Both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have been split by these various movements within party lines.

It is important to note the differences between Party movements:

Once again it is important to note that the vast majority of Neoconservatives have their roots on the left, not the right. They are products of the largely Jewish-American Communist movement of the 1930s and 1940s, which eventually morphed into a kind of militaristic and imperial right with no precedents in American culture or actual political history. They want to change history in order to change the future. The Neoconservative agenda is frighteningly very Orwellian.

“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed – if all records told the same tale – then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘ Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan,’ controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered.”
- 1984, George Orwell

These Neoconservatives call their revolutionary ideology “Wilsonianism” (after President Woodrow Wilson), but it is really the Communist theory of the permanent revolution mingled with the far-right Likud strain of Zionism. A Genuine American Wilsonianism belief would be in the self-determination of people such as the Palestinians. Zionist Neocons don’t believe in the self-determination of anyone who is not Jewish and as such they are oppressing everyone in the world who is a non-Jew. It is a new tyranny of ism’s that the world has never seen before.

“The modern bourgeois society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms. It has only established new classes, new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in the place of old ones.”
- The Communist Manifesto, Marx

Neoconservatives are currently oppressing the European-American poor and working class people of our society. Neither Compassionate Conservatives nor Neoconservatives care about Americans who they consider to be “poor White trash” and thus poor White people and working class White people are marginalized within American society more than they ever have been in the history of American politics.

This racism and classism against poor and/or working class White American citizens needs to stop. But, first it has to be recognized. At this juncture in American politics very few people are willing to recognize the oppression of White people. Eventually they will have to. It can not go ignored for long.

Now, the only big difference between a Compassionate Conservative and a Neoconservative is that Neoconservatives are Jewish and Compassionate Conservatives are Christian. They are both Zionists. The difference between a Conservative and a Compassionate Conservative is that Conservatives are not liberal on domestic polices. Compassionate Conservatives are liberal when it comes to domestic affairs. Conservatives tend to be Republicans while Neoconservatives can be either Democrat or Republican. Many Liberals disenfranchised by the Neoconservative infiltration of the Democratic Party have turned instead toward the Green Party. Weakening domestic Liberalism but strengthening Jewish Zionist foreign policy. In a sense true Liberalism has been forgotten and replaced by Neocon Zionism or what the media terms “Politically Correct” thinking which is not politically correct or even really Liberal.

True Liberals are not Zionists and do not support the belief that Jews are “the chosen people”. This is a racist theology and conflicts with Liberal thinking which is why the Neoconservatives stopped being Liberals. Neocons although they pretend to be Liberals are not Liberals in the true sense of the word.

[Going Postal]

Liberal – adj. 5. Tolerant of views differing from one’s own; broad-minded; specif., not orthodox. – Webster’s Dictionary

Neoconservatives are Jewish Orthodox Zionists and NOT Liberals.

How Jewish Liberals Became Jewish Neoconservatives

Liberals first applied the “neo” prefix to their Jewish comrades who broke ranks to become more conservative in the 1960s and 70s. Many Jewish Neocons decided not to defect and remained Democrats who lean to the right on military and foreign policy issues. The liberal defectors who became Neocons still remained liberal on domestic policy issues. But these mostly Jewish liberal defectors eventually turned conservative whom we now call Neo-conservatives believe in the full military and financial support of the Israeli regime and the US as a strong neo-con Empire by Israel’s side.

And so it is this militant Israeli foreign policy stand that defines Neoconservatism. Jewish-American Neocons foreign policy interests include financial support for Russian Jews to immigrate to Israel. Jewish-American Neocons foreign policy interests include financial and military support of the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Not all Jews support these Neocon interests. Many Jews in American and in Israel are against the US and Israeli led slaughter of innocents in the name of this New World Order. Who are the Neocons to keep our eyes on? The leading Jewish-American Neocons who remain in the Democratic Party. Because these Jewish-American Democratic Neocons seem to be “liberal” with domestic policies they are the most dangerous, they mislead millions into thinking that they are truly liberal when they are not.

“I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness…”
- Allen Ginsberg (Excerpt from “Howl” written in 1956)

Here radical Liberal Allen Ginsberg, of Jewish decent, refers to Liberals from his generation as having gone mad, because they have become Neoconservatives.

True Liberalism does not advocate the mass destruction of innocent lives for economic interests. Liberals do not support blood shed and global domination in the name of power, money, corporations and greed. If a Liberal tells you they do, they are no a true Liberal.

Neocon Democrats use what is considered “politically correct liberal” rhetoric to convince Americans that they are Liberal and the “War on Terrorism” and “New World Order” is defensive and not an offensive attack upon the world, these Jewish Dem Neocons are two-faced blatant liars. Although Jewish Neocon Democrats profess devotion to liberal democracy, they have never hesitated to assail “liberalism”, or what they sometimes call with their Christian Conservative allies “secular humanism.

And so, even while supposedly defending “liberal” and democratic ideals, the Jewish Democratic Neocon attitude is ambivalent. Neocons need to realize that they shouldn’t mask their hypocrisy by calling themselves Liberals. They can’t have it both ways. Their military support for Israel and their support of global imperialism combined with Zionism is contrary to true Liberal thinking. These Neocon Democrats are trying to convince people that they are Liberals in order to win the minority vote.

The Black Vote

Now, if the Democratic Party wants to win the minority vote, especially the Black vote, they need to have a candidate that is not a Neoconservative Zionist because the majority of Blacks understand and know what Zionism is and are generally against it.

The Blacks have had exposure to Farrakhan’s teachings which, although filled with Black Supremacist ideologies, does accurately illustrate Zionism. Blacks are very informed about what Zionism is. They understand it and they oppose it. Blacks recognize Zionism as Jewish racism. Blacks will not vote for a Democrat whom they feel is a Zionist Neoconservative.

Jewish Neoconservatives Are Zionists

Joseph Lieberman is a Jewish Democrat and Neoconservative. Technically, he is not a Liberal, he is a Zionist Neoconservative. Liberals are not Zionists. Neoconservatives are Zionists. These Neoconservative Jewish Zionists found a common ground with Compassionate Conservative Republicans. But still, there are differences between the two parties that have joined together.

“Republicans are good at wielding power, but they’re not so wonderful when it comes to the more idealistic motives of liberal internationalism. The Democrats are better at liberal internationalism, but they’re not so good at wielding power. I would say that if there were a Joe Lieberman/John McCain party, I’m in the Joe Lieberman/John McCain party.”
- Robert Kagan – An Outspoken Zionist Neoconservative

Mayor Bloomberg of New York City is a Jewish Democrat and Neoconservative. It is an unwavering fact that Neocons support the Zionist mentality.

Still, even with the Christian Zionists on board, the Zionist movement remains predominantly Jewish, and the monthly journal that really defines Neoconservatism over the past 35 years, Commentary, is published by the American Jewish Committee.

The Neoconservative stance on foreign policy is more specifically about Jewish-American interests abroad, such as Israel and Russia.

Neoconservatives admire the Israeli Likud party’s tactics, including preventive warfare such Israel’s 1981 raid on Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor, is mixed with odd bursts of ideological enthusiasm for “democracy”.

And so it is … that the core group now in charge of the American governing system consists mostly of Jewish Neoconservatives. Many of them started off as radical extremist Liberals before moving to the far right. This may be a surprise to many, but actually makes sense if you think about it. On the political spectrum, the farther left you move, eventually you end up right.

Communism is a totalitarian governing system that many extremist Liberals advocated and even admired. Compassionate Conservatism and Zionist Neoconservatism is not a far stretch from this type of governing system in which the domestic affairs are over socialized in the guise of Socialism and foreign affairs are tyrannical in the guise of National Patriotism. Therefore Neoconservatism and “Compassionate Conservatism” is a movement more like its tyrannical Communist predecessor. Communism promoted a domestic pseudo liberal form of Socialism. Communism like Neoconservatism brainwashed it’s people to become over socialized and dependent on the government for food, clothing, everything all the time thinking that they are “free” and “independent” and “patriotic” when really they are not, they are slaves to tyranny. To be a slave to the tyranny of Neoconservatism is a dangerous thing for all of America and the entire world.

[Going Postal]

Christian Compassionate Conservatives and Jewish Neoconservatives

It is important for everyone to know that today, in this 2K Generation world we live in that both Christian Compassionate Conservatives and Jewish Neocons are very much alike. They both favor a US military that supports Israel in its occupation of Palestine. They both favor a high military spending budget. They both favor liberal domestic issues. They both favor Global Imperialism. They both are in favor of a “New World Order” where the US and Israel are united. They both believe that Jews are the “chosen people in the Land of Zion” i.e. the Mid-East. But, unlike Jewish Neocons and their Compassionate Conservative Christian counterparts your average Conservatives express greater reservations about US military support of nation building in the Middle East. Jewish Neocons share no reluctance in their support of Israel and US domination and control of the Middle East and eventually the entire world. Conservatives tend to be more conservative about domestic issues than Jewish Neoconservatives.

Conservatives tend to feel that being concerned with foreign affairs more than domestic affairs is treason and Un-American. Conservatives tend to believe that America, within its borders, that is, America’s domestic affairs take precedence over foreign affairs unless there is an immediate threat. So you see Compassionate Conservative Christians are very different from your average Conservative. Compassionate Conservative Christians and Jewish Neoconservatives are both Zionists.

1973 – The OPEC boycott

Since the discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia in the 1930s, the relationship between the US and the Middle East has revolved around oil, along with, after World War II, the status of Israel.

Ensuring access to abundant and cheap oil has topped the foreign policy agenda ever since. The catalyst for the 1973 boycott by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) is the Yom Kippur War and US support for Israel.

Saudi Arabia lead a boycott against countries supporting Israel and oil prices went through the roof.

Boycotters demanded a complete Israeli withdrawal from all occupied territory. The boycott caused major economic upheaval worldwide, and pushed the US to the forefront of Israeli-Arab peace negotiations.

After OPEC’s boycott, every US president has been compelled to take an active role in Mideast politics and policy.

1982 – Reagan’s Evil Empire Speech

Reagan launched the largest peacetime military build-up in American history. Reagan withdrew all arms control talks with the Soviets, and instead pursued guerrilla movement military tactics around the world.

The Strategic Defense Initiative, dubbed Star Wars, was the plan that reversed two decades of US defense policy by challenging the Soviet Union to a technological competition.

Targeting the Soviet Union as the “evil empire” reshapes the world’s strategic landscape. From then on, US foreign policy focuses more intently on the “evil” spheres that threaten US preeminence, underlining an addictive American “them against us” syndrome.

This Ronald Reagan “them against us” and “we’re number one” attitude of the 80’s resurfaced 20 years later with President George W. Bush’s “axis of evil” speech.

Two very important Neo-con leaders in the Ronald Reagan administration; Abrams and then-UN ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick.

And so, with President Reagan’s support, regardless of whether he knew it would lead to this or not, Neocons began to greatly influenced US foreign policy in the 1980s, changing it forever.

“Israel is and must remain our closest ally in the [Middle East] region.”
- “Israel and the Peace Process, Worth fighting For” Dan Quayle

“The United States should not allow its effort to help the peace process along to obscure its relationship with Israel. We may, and should be, an honest broker for peace, but we are not neutral between the two parties [Palestine and Israel]. We are interested in the peace process only to the extent that it results in a situation in which Israel finds itself more secure.”
- “Israel and the Peace Process, Worth fighting For” Dan Quayle

“There are limited effective military responses to terrorism, and I certainly do not favor a wave of additional Big Brother-type restrictions on civil liberties that would do little to effectively curb the threat. But we have to remind ourselves that leadership is about making choices.”
- Dan Quayle

Quayle, a remnant of the Reagan era, and his quotes from 1999, show early signs of what was to come under a religiously conservative Zionist run government.

“Time and time again, religion has infused political movements in America.”
- “Religion and Politics, Worth Fighting For” – Dan Quayle

“…religious conservatives want to establish a theocracy.”
- “Religion and Politics, Worth Fighting For” – Dan Quayle

These quotes illustrate early signs of common ideological thinking that would eventually lead to the Neoconservative and the Compassionate Conservative alliance.

But even with support from Republican Zionists like Dan Quayle and many others, the Neocons hit a bump in the road in the 1990s. Neocon cries failed to convince the Clinton administration to push toward Global Domination. Outside of Jewish Neocon and Christian Conservative think tank circles and Israel’s right-wing Likud Party, their calls for a regime change in Iraq and total military occupation of Palestine were ideas deemed too provocative and extremist by the political mainstream of the time, under the Clinton administration.

Bill Clinton was not a Neocon Democrat. He was a liberal Democrat. The Project for the New American Century urged Clinton to agree to an invasion of Iraq throughout the Clinton years, for reasons that had nothing to do with supposed links between Saddam and Osama Bin Laden.

Public letters signed by Wolfowitz and others called on the US to invade and occupy Iraq, to bomb Hezbollah bases in Lebanon and to threaten states such as Syria and Iran with US attacks. He ignored such letters. But, unfortunately, eventually, even for him, there where a few exceptions, where he gave into Neocon pressure, such as Clinton’s decision to launch isolated strikes at targets in Afghanistan and Sudan in 1998, talks of preemptive military action was largely dismissed.

Despite being silenced by President Clinton who called for restraint and humility in foreign affairs, Neocons used the 1990s to hone their message, their so-called “politically correct” rhetoric and lies to brainwash Americans and successfully craft their blueprint for American World Domination.

Another corner of the Jewish Neoconservative US Government is occupied by several media empires. Neocon Rupert Murdoch disseminates propaganda through his Fox Television network. His magazine the Weekly Standard, edited by William Kristol, acts as a mouthpiece for Neocons such as Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith and Woolsey as well as for Sharon’s government. The National Interest is a news agency now funded by Jewish Neocon Conrad Black, who owns the Jerusalem Post and the Hollinger Empire in Britain and Canada.

The media network centered on the Washington Times is owned by the South Korean messiah and ex-convict, the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, who owns the newswire UPI. UPI is now run by John O’Sullivan who once worked as an editor for Zionist Conrad Black in Canada.

Through media channels such as these and more, the Jewish-Neocon journalism filled with “politically correct” rhetoric and lies along with its Europhobic content, has succeeded in contaminating the US Conservative European-American movement.

The Neoconservative Zionist occupied pentagon was linked together in the 1990s by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), run by Kristol out of the Weekly Standard offices. Using the Media PR television brainwashing techniques pioneered by their Trotskyism predecessors, the neo-cons promoted their Pro-Israel/US globalization and New World Order agenda. They also published a series of public letters, whose signatories often included Wolfowitz and other Neocon members of the Bush foreign policy team. They called for the US to invade and occupy Iraq and to support Israel’s campaigns against the Palestinians. During Clinton’s two terms, these Neocon agendas were ignored. Bill Clinton frustrated Neocons and Conservatives alike. Neocons just couldn’t have their way with Bill. But, they eventually managed to get rid of him. But, Jewish Neocon long-time ties to Republican circles helped many Neocons win key posts in the Bush administration by crossing party lines.

Few Neocons supported Bush during the presidential primaries. They supported the Al Gore/Joe Lieberman ticket, mostly because of Lieberman not because they liked Al Gore. Al Gore does not favor a war for the sake of Israel. How Al and Joe ever managed to decide to run together is beyond me. As we now see, Al Gore is currently endorsing Deans run for the presidency and not Joe’s because Joe is a pro-war-for-Israel Neoconservative and Al Gore is not.

When Bush was running for the presidency the Neoconservatives feared that the second Bush would be like his father; a wimp who had failed to occupy Baghdad in the first Gulf war and who had pressured Israel into the Oslo peace process and that his administration, again like his father’s, would be dominated by moderate Republicans instead of Zionist Neocons.

How did the Zionist neo-cons, Christian as well as Jewish, Republican as well as Democratic come to power and manage to capture and control the Bush administration?

Neoconservatives support Zionism and believe that Israel and the US should join forces in the domination of the entire Middle East. Zionism is the belief that Jews are the Chosen people and that “the land of Zion” or The Middle East was promised to them by G-d. Judea-Christian conservatives and Jewish Neocons who believe in this religious theory support a US/Israel led Global domination or “New World Order”.

[Going Postal]

What is ZOG?

The Jewish Neocons are everywhere; they are in or around the actual Pentagon, are at the center of the Israel lobby and have infiltrated the religious right, plus Christian Conservative circles, foundations and media empires. This Jewish Neocon US Governing System is what many people are calling the Zionist Occupied government or ZOG.

Simply said, ZOG is Zionist American Imperialism. It is the tyranny of the Jews.


The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs or JINSA

The major link between the Christian Conservatives, the Jewish Neocons and the Israel lobby is the Washington-based and Likud- supporting Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), which co-opts many non-Jewish defense experts by sending them on trips to Israel. The Israel lobby itself is divided into Jewish and Christian wings. Wolfowitz and Feith have close ties to the Jewish-American Israel lobby. Wolfowitz, who has relatives in Israel, has served as the Bush Administration’s liaison to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Feith was given an award by the Zionist Organization of America, citing him as a “pro- Israel activist”. While out of power in the Clinton years, Feith collaborating with Perle, co-authored for Likud a policy paper that advised the Israeli government to end the Oslo peace process, reoccupy the territories and crush Palestine once and for all.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Bill Bennett
You mean, the Bill Bennett who served under Reagan and Bush I? :rofl:


Charles Krauthammer
Don't see the evidence he's a Democrat. Also, he was highly critical of Bush, Jr. and the Iraq War.


Michael Medved
Huh? He's a blogger at Town Hall, and an intelligent design theorist. Also, he endorses Romney.


Dennis Prager
Prager is a diehard religious conservative and Republican. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/250192/proud-be-republican-dennis-prager

[Cyclone Ranger]

No it's just another one of those moronic assignment labels.
Like any ideology, there are spectrum's across it from moderate to extreme.

That has nothing to do with anything. Neoconservatism is about foreign policy, not domestic affairs.

[Cyclone Ranger]

What is ZOG?

The Jewish Neocons are everywhere; they are in or around the actual Pentagon, are at the center of the Israel lobby and have infiltrated the religious right, plus Christian Conservative circles, foundations and media empires. This Jewish Neocon US Governing System is what many people are calling the Zionist Occupied government or ZOG.

Simply said, ZOG is Zionist American Imperialism. It is the tyranny of the Jews.


^ A bunch of Stormfront-style anti-Semitic crap.

[Cyclone Ranger]

More or less true, but at one time, before confused morons in the media began misusing it, it had a specific meaning.
Neocons believe in a Pax Americana generated by aggressive imperialist warfare waged to spread democracy, as per the writings of Leo Strauss.

[Going Postal]

Leo Strauss, another Jew Zionist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss#Strauss_and_Zionism

[Going Postal]

^ A bunch of Stormfront-style anti-Semitic crap.

And yet, they said "The Black Vote" was too intelligent to vote for a neocon. So what is it - do stormfronters considered blacks to be retarded knuckledraggers or smarter than the average bear? Me thinks you can't dispute the evidence so you cry racism.

[Cyclone Ranger]

I can't dispute what is too incoherent and inane to be parsed by anyone outside Stormfront. :shrug:

Use a search engine to translate your post into English and then we can discuss it.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Leo Strauss, another Jew Zionist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss#Strauss_and_Zionism

Of course. Israel is the Jewish homeland, and should be supported by all Jews, Christians and everyone else.

[hadit]

The term "Neo-Con" is rapidly losing significance through overuse. It will shortly join "Nazi", "homophobe", "racist", etc on the trash pile of meaningless political insults.

[Going Postal]

Of course. Israel is the Jewish homeland, and should be supported by all Jews, Christians and everyone else.

Critics of Strauss accuse him of being elitist, illiberalist and anti-democratic. Shadia Drury, in Leo Strauss and the American Right (1999), argues that Strauss inculcated an elitist strain in American political leaders linked to imperialist militarism, neoconservatism and Christian fundamentalism. Drury argues that Strauss teaches that "perpetual deception of the citizens by those in power is critical because they need to be led, and they need strong rulers to tell them what's good for them." Nicholas Xenos similarly argues that Strauss was "an anti-democrat in a fundamental sense, a true reactionary. According to Xenos, "Strauss was somebody who wanted to go back to a previous, pre-liberal, pre-bourgeois era of blood and guts, of imperial domination, of authoritarian rule, of pure fascism."[29]

As the Brad Pitt character would say - a Natzi.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

Well, Jews have magically enchanted pocket watches engraved with Talmudic runes that are specially created, using the blood of Christian children, to enable just 5 or 6 of them to hypnotize 100's of millions of goyim into obeying their every command.

Fact.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

Neocons believe in a Pax Americana generated by aggressive imperialist warfare waged to spread democracy, as per the writings of Leo Strauss.

I don't think Strauss was all that 'democratic' in his philosophy, and I seriously doubt Truman or Humphrey ever read his books, and it's a sure thing Lyndon Johnson never read it, and certainly Reagan and neither of the Bushes never did, either, but in any case the term was first used in the 1930's, by other Socialists and Communists as a slur against those Trotskyites who considered America the only country that would have a real communist revolution, as Marx also said at one time.

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This vid was second or so in a search I just made and it is right on target. Cowpunk, thoughts?

[Going Postal]

^^

Wasn't until 9/11...hmmm...

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Neocons have been manipulating US foreign policy for a lot longer than that!

[Guido]

Jackson was a Cold Warrior, nothing 'neo' about Jackson.

Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle were never Socialists, hence 'neo' doesn't apply to them, either.

Kirkpatrick was indeed a 'neo-con', she was a Socialist who supported an aggressive foreign policy against the Soviets, lots of Trotskyites did, but just because she supported a Republican foreign hawk or two doesn't mean she was ever a former Democrat. She supported Humphrey and Moynihan, Liberal hawks, on foreign policy issues, but nobody runs around claiming Humphrey and Moynihan were 'neo-cons', do they?

Most Liberals were Cold Warriors, including the Kennedys; they weren't Neo-Cons.

Podhoretz was never a Socialist, he just started calling himself a 'Neo-Con' because it was a new, fashionable buzz word for his magazine audience; Israel became a key foreign policy issue under Carter and he backed a more aggressive, liberal foreign policy over Carter's appeasement of Islamo-Vermin re the Middle East.

The term 'Neo-Con' is misused by the clueless, and doesn't make any sense outside of referring to Kristol, Horowitz, and a few others. Just because media airheads are confused and don't use the term correctly doesn't change anything.

Here we see FLOP's brain at work:

Rather than admit that his remark that "no neoconservative was ever a Democrat" was wrong, he prefers to assert that Doug Feith, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz are not neoconservatives, although these three individuals are generally considered to be exemplary neoconservatives. Being "right" is just that important to the idiot, even when he's wrong.

This is a vivid illustration of how stupidity works: The idiot sees more benefit in insisting that he's right and the rest of the world is wrong than in admitting that he made a mistake, like other human beings. You can see this sort of logic on display all over DA, which is a good measure of the number of idiots posting here.

[Cyclone Ranger]

I don't think Strauss was all that 'democratic' in his philosophy, and I seriously doubt Truman or Humphrey ever read his books, and it's a sure thing Lyndon Johnson never read it, and certainly Reagan and neither of the Bushes never did, either, but in any case the term was first used in the 1930's, by other Socialists and Communists as a slur against those Trotskyites who considered America the only country that would have a real communist revolution, as Marx also said at one time.
Strangely, Dan Quayle was apparently familiar with Strauss' writings. I don't know if Reagan or Bush ever read him. Certainly, Bush Jr. did not, as he's not a reader, by his own admission.

[Farnsworth,Luther P.]

Strangely, Dan Quayle was apparently familiar with Strauss' writings. I don't know if Reagan or Bush ever read him. Certainly, Bush Jr. did not, as he's not a reader, by his own admission.

That is indeed strange. However, it's pretty much a given that while the real Neo-Cons may claim to be influenced by Strauss, it's immediately obvious he's not an influence on most hawks who favored an aggressive policy toward virulent Soviet aggression; it was the right policy to follow. And, it still is, since Russian foreign policy has always been pretty much the same, whether under Czars, Stalin, or Putin. It hasn't changed strategically since before Peter the Great.

And, Guido is all butt hurt because his silly post based on Two Minute Google Scholarship and recited some half-assed, semi-literate Wikipedia article on Neo-Cons made him look like the ignorant uninformed dumbass he is.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Quayle is a smarter guy than he was given credit for.

At the end of the day, Strauss was a virulent anti-Communist and anti-fascist. He favored an aggressive response to the Soviets.