http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/4/151216.shtml
Part Two: The Educational Establishment’s Left Wing Agenda, the Indefensible Tom Daschle.

Sean Hannity may think that liberals, on the whole, are nice folks, [deep down inside where it doesn’t show, of course].

But he doesn’t believe they do nice things. Among the bad things they have done is wreck the nation’s public schools by turning them into propaganda organs for the disastrous left wing agenda.

"Too many of our public schools have become liberal indoctrination centers, cultural battlegrounds and poorly performing graduation factories,” Hannity wrote.

"Modern liberal elitists, since the 1960s, have largely taken control of our educational establishment. Motivated by an aversion to many of the traditional values and principles upon which this nation was founded [and to Western civilization in general], they de-emphasize and distort them in their revised versions of history,” Hannity charged.

"Instead of proudly acknowledging our heritage, they apologize for it. Where fair-minded students of history see America as a grand and noble experiment, they see it as racist, sexist, homophobic and unjust.”

Hannity notes that liberals seek to expunge all mentions of God, Judeo-Christian beliefs and Holy Scripture and have junked proven methods of teaching in favor of untied experimental teaching techniques.

As a result, Hannity says, "K-12 education in America is an unmitigated disaster …appalling, immoral and unjust.”

Hannity’s answer to this catastrophe is to "set parents free to choose the schools and teachers and systems that work best for their kids.”

An Act of War

Hannity quotes from the 1983 study, "A Nation at Risk” prepared by the National Commission on Excellence in Education for then-President Reagan: "The educational foundations of society are presently being eroded by a rising tide of mediocrity that threaten our very future as a nation and a people … if an unfriendly foreign power has attempted to impose on America the mediocre educational performance that exists today, we might have viewed it as an act of war.”

The Indefensible Tom Daschle.

"Tom Daschle masquerades as a nice guy – passing himself off as a mild-mannered moderate fighting for the average American,” Hannity wrote. "But don’t let appearances fool you. Daschle is a New Left Democrat. And he has spent his career proving it.”

Hannity recalls that Daschle reached his post as Senate Majority Leader – de facto boss of the Senate – when Vermont’s turncoat Republican Senator left the GOP, declared himself an independent and cast his lot – and his votes – with the Democrats.

Because Daschle wields enormous power Hannity suggests that readers take to trouble to learn all they can about this doctrinaire liberal. If you do, Hannity tells you what you’ll discover about Sen. Daschle:

• September 19, 1979: The democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and Jimmy Carter was in the White House. The U.S embassy was just two months away from being seized by Islamic radicals, the USSR was on the verge of invading Afghanistan and the U.S. military was "run down and demoralized after Vietnam.” Congress has voted an amendment to increase defense spending by $3 billion to upgrade our nearly threadbare defense establishment. Tom Daschle, freshman Democrat Congressman voted against it, along with his colleague, liberal Dick Gephardt. Thanks to these two and their leftist Democrat cohorts the pro-defense amendment was defeated by a vote of 221 to 191.

• May 4, 1983: The House passed a nuclear freeze bill that would have tied President Reagan’s hands in dealing with the Soviets, by a vote of 278 to 149.

http://www.geocities.com/red331w/yourthread.txt

Now there is an intelligent, thought provoking response if I ever did see one.

Lets see, you must think the nations school system is great, right?
And you must also think that voting to defund the military is also a grand idea as well, right?
And that capitulating to the Soviets was just swell, right?

LOL....Your answer tell us much about your positions....

Powerboss, I take it you take back all your old trash-can posts?

Yep.

Originally posted by JoeyNormal
Powerboss, I take it you take back all your old trash-can posts?


LOL...

Originally posted by Powerboss
Yep.

Good ;)

I'd like to know why its trash.....
By calling it trash then you must believe the things I stated above.
And if thats the case it just further proves that radical leftists in power are dangerous to the well being and security of the country.
If the Daschles and CA's of the world were in power the Soviets would still be around and South and Central America would be red...

Originally posted by Powerboss
Now there is an intelligent, thought provoking response if I ever did see one.


Anything from Sean Hannity doesn't deserve an intelligent response..


Lets see, you must think the nations school system is great, right?


WRONG... It sucks... Bad... And All the stupid tests are making them worse.


And you must also think that voting to defund the military is also a grand idea as well, right?


From it's current budget? Hell yes! How much money do we need to spend on defense? We are the only superpower. Maybe if the money was managed correctly and spent the right way we wouldn't need such a massive military budget. For instance, instead of blowing 12 Billion dollars on the outdated and unneeded tank thing from the Carlyle group they could have raised military pay so the soldiers wouldn't have top live off food stamps.



And that capitulating to the Soviets was just swell, right?

LOL....Your answer tell us much about your positions....


Oh yea.. Sean Hannity doesn't even have his facts straight, as usual. The article is just another one of his nutty hit pieces against Liberals. "Tom Daschle is evil! Therefore all Liberals are evil! Tom Daschle is a Liberal!". If that's how it's gonna be then I'll just say all conservatives are like John Ashcroft.

Originally posted by Powerboss
I'd like to know why its trash.....
By calling it trash then you must believe the things I stated above.
And if thats the case it just further proves that radical leftists in power are dangerous to the well being and security of the country.
If the Daschles and CA's of the world were in power the Soviets would still be around and South and Central America would be red...


LMAO... You might wanna see somebody about that bad case of paranoia..

Last time I checked John Hitler Ashcroft wasn't a "Leftist", neither was Bush or Cheney..

The Soviets power was hyped up by the CIA since WW2 to increase defense spending and allow them to use the Red threat excuse to topple any government they saw fit. In case you don't think they are capable of that good of propaganda.. I suggest you read this>>>> http://www.discussanything.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12825 They were good at in Germany, eh?

And thank God people like Ronald Reagler massacred all those innocent men, woman, and children in central and south America:rolleyes:

Oh what would we do if they were allowed to elect the leader of their choice and live the way they want to:rolleyes:

And you wonder why people hate the United States huh? It's no big secret. Thanks for making my daily routine more dangerous Ronnie Raygun...:mad:

Anything from Sean Hannity doesn't deserve an intelligent response..

Why?

WRONG... It sucks... Bad... And All the stupid tests are making them worse.

Well guess who is in control of education??????
It certainly isnt the right......would you agree?



From it's current budget? Hell yes! How much money do we need to spend on defense? We are the only superpower. Maybe if the money was managed correctly and spent the right way we wouldn't need such a massive military budget. For instance, instead of blowing 12 Billion dollars on the outdated and unneeded tank thing from the Carlyle group they could have raised military pay so the soldiers wouldn't have top live off food stamps.


And this is yet another example of why the left is dangerous to this country.

At a time when our military has been abused, defunded, and shredded by the Clinton years, when we are currently in a war, and finally and I know you agree on this point Red China is arming itself to the teeth, planning for a confrontation with us.
This is the exact reason why the Chi-coms were all for the Democrats being in power, they know the Dems defund the military and with the Republicans it will take the Chi-coms much longer to be able take us on.
I agree with you that proper management is in order and that waste should be a priority...I think that Donald Rumsfeld is the man for the job to help eliminate wasteful spending...his qualifications for the job are unequalled by anyone.


Oh yea.. Sean Hannity doesn't even have his facts straight, as usual.

Please point out what facts are wrong.


The article is just another one of his nutty hit pieces against Liberals.

Hit piece yes....whats nutty about the truth?
And again, if its untrue or wrong, please cite where.


"Tom Daschle is evil! Therefore all Liberals are evil! Tom Daschle is a Liberal!".

I didnt see where he said "evil". Can you point it out?

His policys are dangerous, irresponsible and no good.



LMAO... You might wanna see somebody about that bad case of paranoia..

Oh, ok:rolleyes:
Gee, You mean that invasion of Afghanistan was imaginiary? They're massive funding of Cuba was imaginary?
They're insurgency and forcing communism in South and Central America was just someones imagination?


The Soviets power was hyped up by the CIA since WW2 to increase defense spending and allow them to use the Red threat excuse to topple any government they saw fit. In case you don't think they are capable of that good of propaganda.. I suggest you read this>>>>


This is just another example of why the far left is so far out of mainstream thought...
The facts are that the Soviets were aggressively expanding, that was their stated goal, do you deny that was their goal?
"We will bury you", a statement from Kruscheov was just a charade?
Only Kennedy and Reagan stood up to them...Reagan defeated them.
THe capitulators and appeasers like Jimmy Carter were a laugh and did nothing to stop or contain Soviet agression.

Why would you defund and not build when the enemy is funding and building? That is the thinking of the left.


And thank God people like Ronald Reagler massacred all those innocent men, woman, and children in central and south America

Please, nobody believes this trash.
We freed them of communism which is the best gift they could ever receive.


Oh what would we do if they were allowed to elect the leader of their choice and live the way they want to

The commies dont allow elections and when they do they are fixed....we changed that and allowed free and fair elections.



And you wonder why people hate the United States huh? It's no big secret. Thanks for making my daily routine more dangerous Ronnie Raygun...

People hate the US because they've been fed lies and propoganda.
Are we perfect? Certainly not, but we are the best hope on earth for continuing freedom in the world.

Teh left is not interested in preserving freedom, in fact to institute their form of a "better" gov't, they will take ours away.

Originally posted by Cosmo
Teh left is not interested in preserving freedom, in fact to institute their form of a "better" gov't, they will take ours away.



Excuse me, you liar...

YOU ARE the one along with the rest of your conservative ilk that laughs at those truly concerned with preserving our freedoms.

And you have the nerve to say the Left isn't interested???

You are supporting the Nazi's in office that are busy taking away our freedoms for a veil of security. Get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself..

Originally posted by Corporate Avenger




Excuse me, you liar...

YOU ARE the one along with the rest of your conservative ilk that laughs at those truly concerned with preserving our freedoms.

And you have the nerve to say the Left isn't interested???

You are supporting the Nazi's in office that are busy taking away our freedoms for a veil of security. Get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself..

YOu know for the smartest boy in the world you resort to an awful lot of name calling. Now I am a liar? Where have I lied? I think what really happened here is what you usually do when someone calls you out, you try to gert the thread locked, the tactic of a real coward. Try replying to PB's question, where did Hannity get his facts wrong?

Originally posted by Cosmo


YOu know for the smartest boy in the world you resort to an awful lot of name calling. Now I am a liar? Where have I lied? I think what really happened here is what you usually do when someone calls you out, you try to gert the thread locked, the tactic of a real coward. Try replying to PB's question, where did Hannity get his facts wrong?


You insult me in all your posts.. Do I whine about it??? NO.. Stop being so sensitive..

Where have you lied? Where do I start? For instance you claimed the Left doesn't care about preserving our rights. Which is an outright lie. The left have been the only ones concerned with our rights as a whole. It's the right wing pundits on tv and most of the conservatives here that aren't concerned with preserving our freedoms. The Patriot act takes them away and you don't even care. Do you see wher you told a lie?

And you just called me a coward, again.. Pot meet kettle..


Swan Hannity? Haha, a right wing shock jock just like Limbaugh, the question should be... Where did he get his facts right?

It's a sad commmentary on this nation when so many people waste their time listening to these talking heads... Real sad...

YOu dont' whine yOu just call names. The true mark of a coward.
You still haven't shown me where I lied, you've only pointed out that we have a difference of opinion on what the Patriot Act means. I have also said I am concerned about the gov't going too far, but I am more afraid of Muslims and people on the left who want to take away my freedom, and replace it with their version of a "better" gov't, becuase they are smarter than me.

I try for the sake of the rules to not use name calling, sometimes I forget just like everybody else. I'm human..

Although telling somebody they are a liar after they blantently lied isn't an insult so I thought. I thought it was just being truthful? Oh well..

You said leftists aren't concerned with preserving freedom and that leftists are trying to take your freedom away. How is that not an outright lie? Nothing is more important to me than preserving our feredoms, without them, nothing else matters..

I'm concerned about genuine terrorists as well, but I also try to understand what drives then to hate us so much that they'd do these things. Because if we don't find out the root causes of terrorism and try to destroy those roots, it'll never end.

I want to change the government back into what the founders intended... They sure didn't intend for a bunch of power crazed men to shred the Constitution, that's for sure.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
- George Washington

The trade of governing has always been monopolized by the most ignorant and the most rascally individuals of mankind.
Thomas Paine

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of
these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish
it....
-- Declaration of Independence

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and
government to gain ground.
-- Thomas Jefferson

There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of
the people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in
power, than by violent and sudden usurpation.
-- James Madison



Yea, I'd say these men had a better idea of what the government should be than the scumbags that run it now. I think they'd agree with me on the current state of the union..

Wait, I thought you believed the founders were just a bunch of rich, old, white, christian, slave owning, greedy, selfish men acting solely in their own interests.....:confused: :confused:

Has your view of them changed?

Or do you just like to quote them when its convenient and bash them at other times?


Also, you've been asked to show where Hannity is wrong, please do so.