Huey Long: "Share the Wealth"

[Truth Teller]

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[86Dùde]

You people really are stupid.

[antiquity]

Since Hugh Long was a democrat, what did you expect?

[Dick Tator]

Fuck sharing the wealth. EARN the wealth. That applies to the rich, too. Something I'm sure we can all agree on...

[9ball8]

Fuck sharing the wealth. EARN the wealth. That applies to the rich, too. Something I'm sure we can all agree on...

Wow. So sitting on one's ass by the pool, waiting for the dividend check to come in on wealth made by one's ancestors, is EARNED income? And if not, why are you such a communist? ;)

Not so simple is it. How about the gov't going into business, making a slight profit on all services rendered? Or the gov't can enable a non-profit empire, building an economy of non-profits competing with gov't to provide essential services to all, with minimum overhead. Of course, while that would enable individuals to keep more of what they earn, it would put a serious dent in the for-profit housing, health, food road building, energy, communication and education industries.

That's a socialist-flavored remedy to preserve people's earning power. I'm sure that someone will figure out how capitalism can prevent monopolies from forming without gov't intervention. And demonstrate an unregulated economy that weeds out the worst behaviors automatically. That might keep gov't out of everyone's earning power. Let us know when that happens, BTW.

[Dick Tator]

Wow. So sitting on one's ass by the pool, waiting for the dividend check to come in on wealth made by one's ancestors, is EARNED income? And if not, why are you such a communist? ;)

When a person inherits something, they have a choice... if they happen to choose to NOT to cash in stocks then they have earned dividends by being a shareholder in the company that they now own.


Not so simple is it. How about the gov't going into business, making a slight profit on all services rendered? Or the gov't can enable a non-profit empire, building an economy of non-profits competing with gov't to provide essential services to all, with minimum overhead. Of course, while that would enable individuals to keep more of what they earn, it would put a serious dent in the for-profit housing, health, food road building, energy, communication and education industries.

Going into business isn't the proper role and function of government.


That's a socialist-flavored remedy to preserve people's earning power. I'm sure that someone will figure out how capitalism can prevent monopolies from forming without gov't intervention. And demonstrate an unregulated economy that weeds out the worst behaviors automatically. That might keep gov't out of everyone's earning power. Let us know when that happens, BTW.

Monopolies exist BECAUSE of government regulations which prevent small startups from succeeding.

[Truth Teller]

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[9ball8]

When a person inherits something, they have a choice... if they happen to choose to NOT to cash in stocks then they have earned dividends by being a shareholder in the company that they now own.
So they earned the dividends by sitting by the pool and having the correct last name. Not that I'd tax that any differently than taxing
someone who labors for their check. I would make sure it was taxed at a modest rate, though. No loopholes, no exceptions above a certain income level.


Going into business isn't the proper role and function of government.
Fair enuf. It is the role of gov't to provide a proper environment for business -large & small- to prosper in the longer term. If gov't fails to take this responsibility, the results are similar to a gov't that fails to enforce criminal laws. -Chaos.


Monopolies exist BECAUSE of government regulations which prevent small startups from succeeding.
Why don't we call monopolies, "trusts", then? That helps libertarians understand that monopolies can exist by colluding with gov't, or because gov't fails it's responsibility to provide for a proper business environment. The monopoly of today exists due to gov't collusion or gross incompetency. The trusts of yesteryear (old west to guilded age) existed because gov't failed to maintain a rational business environment. Kind of a sliding scale between serious enemies of the small business concept: big gov't and big business.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Monopolies exist BECAUSE of government regulations which prevent small startups from succeeding.
^ Total bullshit. Monopolies exist when government refuses to enforce antitrust regulations that ensure true competition, allowing the largest companies to grab too large a market share, and use that advantage to drive competitors out of business.

[Cyclone Ranger]

So they earned the dividends by sitting by the pool and having the correct last name. Not that I'd tax that any differently than taxing
someone who labors for their check. I would make sure it was taxed at a modest rate, though. No loopholes, no exceptions above a certain income level.
There is no reason to tax inheritance at a modest rate. As John Stuart Mill noted, while excessive income taxation may discourage work, taxes on inheritance encourage work by limiting generational wealth.

[Alberto_Balsalm]

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Sounds like a good recipe for capital flight.

Incidentally, I get the impression that many backers of the Dictator of Louisiana thought a lot like the lady in the below video.

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[Dick Tator]

^ Total bullshit. Monopolies exist when government refuses to enforce antitrust regulations that ensure true competition, allowing the largest companies to grab too large a market share, and use that advantage to drive competitors out of business.

Monopolies exist because of expensive government regulations that only the big companies can afford, thus ensuring that the little companies are effectively driven out of business and that small start-ups never get off the ground.

An analogy would be if the government said that all new apple trees had to be planted in solid gold pots. All the big apple producers wouldn't have too much of a problem with this as they could absorb the costs for new trees a bit while also raising prices and cutting pay. Also, don't forget that their existing trees wouldn't have this requirement.

A new apple orchard would never get off the ground as they likely couldn't afford the gold pot regulation. This ensures that there is no competition for the big company, despite the fact that they have an increased cost of doing business. They are essentially paying for their monopoly. :shrug:

[Truth Teller]

Sounds like a good recipe for capital flight.

Incidentally, I get the impression that many backers of the Dictator of Louisiana thought a lot like the lady in the below video.

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Well,Huey Long did get results.

He did build up his state, by bulding bridges,buildings and factories ,he was color blind in the implimentation of more of his programs (in spite of the fact that blacks couldn't even vote in his state) than FDR was in many of his New Deal programs,literacy went up under him too.

I put this in political debate because with Occupy Wall Street it looks like many of the ideas he advocated are finally gettting a fair discussion.

[antiquity]

And Huey Long and his family got rich on the kick backs on most if not all those projects.

[Truth Teller]

And Huey Long and his family got rich on the kick backs on most if not all those projects.

Name me a politican(especially of that era) who didn't do the same?

I'm not saying Huey Long was a saint,I'm not saying he was pure,I'm not saying he wasn't in part a dictator,I'm not saying he sometimes wasn't demagogic.



I'm saying he was very advanced(esepcially for his time and his region) and he did so much more good than most politicans of any time or region ever have.

And OWS tells me that maybe the time for some of his ideas might have finally come.

[antiquity]

The OWS has no political clout. In fact the vast majority of them have no idea what they are protesting. I personally think they are protesting for two reasons. One: for something to do because they are bored and unemployed with time on their hands and/or two: Its an excuse to party. If the reason they are protesting is because they are unemployed they are protesting in the wrong place....they should start with the White house and/or Congress.

I saw a poll taken by I believe NBC or USA Today that said at least 30% believed a violent overthrow of the government is necessary if they don't get want they want. Do you agree with that?

The Tea Party on the other hand did and does have political clout.

Huey Long and his crime family was out not for the people but themselves and their personally gain, which was nothing but power and wealth and if they did anything for the little guy it was for the vote to stay in power. Kind of like Obama promises to the Blacks which he has yet to deliver. Remember black unemployment is the highest it has been in three decades. In fact in some inter-cities it has reached above 30%. How the black population can still support this administration is beyond me.
Remember the video and Black women celebration after the 2008 presidential election saying Obama will pay for her housing and gas for her car.....I wonder what that person is thinking about Obama today?

[antiquity]

Name me a politican(especially of that era) who didn't do the same?.

Try Franklin D Roosevelt.

[Truth Teller]

The OWS has no political clout.

As of now they don't,who knows what the future may hold.


In fact the vast majority of them have no idea what they are protesting.

I think they do know what they are protesting and that's the unfairness of the system,they might not agree on the solution but they are in agreement about the problem.



I saw a poll taken by I believe NBC or USA Today that said at least 30% believed a violent overthrow of the government is necessary if they don't get want they want. Do you agree with that?

No,I don't agree with that.

But when does 30% ever speak for 70%?

Also,I don't see where it is set in stone that one has to agree with everything every person in a movement says in order to have sympathy with that movement?




The Tea Party on the other hand did and does have political clout.

We'll see what the future holds for everyone, "Don't speak too soon for the wheel's still in spin"-Bob Dylan.




Huey Long and his crime family was out not for the people but themselves and their personally gain, which was nothing but power and wealth and if they did anything for the little guy it was for the vote to stay in power.

Well,that's your opinion,even if it's true ,so what?

If Huey Long got results that most people don't ,then to most people it's the results that matter.



Try Franklin D Roosevelt.

Some of your fellow righties won't agree with you.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Monopolies exist because of expensive government regulations that only the big companies can afford, thus ensuring that the little companies are effectively driven out of business and that small start-ups never get off the ground.
Evidence?

Let's see some case studies of small companies and start-ups driven out of business by "expensive" government regulations only the Fortune 500 can afford, despite the fact those regulations typically only apply to large concerns in the first place, causing such widespread devastation to competition in those industries, only one mega-company was left in place.

While you're at it, throw in some sources to validate your "average American commits three felonies a day" factoid.

[86Dùde]

"3 Felonies A Day" by Harvey Silverglate. He's a jew, and he's had some good reviews so that should be enough for your brain to digest.

[Cyclone Ranger]

Note carefully that it's just Mr. Silvergate's opinion, not the product of any research.

[86Dùde]

Note carefully, that there is no amount of "research" that would ever change your mind.

[Cyclone Ranger]

According to who? You?

There was no research. He just made an offhand remark.

[Truth Teller]

"3 Felonies A Day" by Harvey Silverglate. He's a jew, and he's had some good reviews so that should be enough for your brain to digest.
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST ALERT!

Note carefully, that there is no amount of "research" that would ever change your mind.

Pot,kettle,black.