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Cynic
09-07-2002, 09:57 AM
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=mvemjsunp


I'll be amused to see pb's answer. :p

I'm taking the test now.

Cynic
09-07-2002, 10:01 AM
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Your results are below...
#1 Progressive
#2 Shachtmanite
#3 Libertarian Socialist
#4 Social Democrat
#5 Democratic Marxist
#6 Christian Socialist
#7 Democratic Socialist
#8 Anarchist
#9 Bookchinite
#10 DeLeonist
#11 Kimist
#12 Stalinist/Maoist
#13 Leninist-Trotskyist
#14 Castroist


I would have said Libertarian Socialist or Social democrat. But what is a Schactmanite?:confused:

IFF
09-07-2002, 10:07 AM
link please?

Cynic
09-07-2002, 10:09 AM
oh, sorry.
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=mvemjsunp

Frank
09-07-2002, 10:18 AM
1) Social Democrat

2) Christian Socialist

3) Kimist

tam
09-07-2002, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Cynic
what is a Schactmanite?:confused:

sounds like an STD to me :D

oh, and i copied the link to your first post, hope you don't mind.



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my score:

#1 Progressive
#2 Shachtmanite (oh no!)
#3 Anarchist (..for the UK!)

Betty
09-07-2002, 10:43 AM
#1 Progressive
#2 Shachtmanite
#3 Libertarian Socialist

tam
09-07-2002, 10:47 AM
SHACHTMANISM: Hybrid political ideology that mixes (in varying ratios) Trotskyism and Social Democracy. The originators of Shachtmanism include Max Shachtman, Tony Cliff, CLR James, James Abern, and numerous others. Shachtmanites believe that the Stalinist rulers of Communist countries are a "new (ruling) class", completely distinct from the workers. Therefore, they go beyond Trotsky's description of Stalinist Russia as being a "degenerated workers' state"; Max Shachtman described the USSR as a "bureaucratic collectivist" society, while Tony Cliff (and Ted Grant before him) called it "state capitalism". Left Shachtmanites consider Communist nations to be as bad as imperialist nations (often calling Soviet aggression "imperialist"); the more right-wing, social democratic Shachtmanites (including Shachtman and SDUSA) consider Communist nations to be worse than Western capitalism, usually siding with the US government in international conflicts. In America, Shachtmanite groups include the ISO, the International Socialist wing of Solidarity, and (most notoriously) Social Democrats USA. In Australia and the UK, the Workers' Liberty groupings are the best-known Shachtmanite organizations

Cynic
09-07-2002, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Frank
1) Social Democrat

2) Christian Socialist

3) Kimist

that makes you an atheist christian totalitarian liberal (why I don't take these tests very seriously)

IFF
09-07-2002, 04:53 PM
i love question 4 :D

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#2 Anarchist
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#3 Democratic Marxist
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#5 Progressive
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#6 Shachtmanite
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#8 Leninist-Trotskyist
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#11 Castroist
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#12 Christian Socialist
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#14 Stalinist/Maoist
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Unrepresented
09-07-2002, 05:18 PM
#1 Anarchist
#2 Democratic Marxist
#3 Shachtmanite
#4 DeLeonist
#5 Democratic Socialist
#6 Leninist-Trotskyist
#7 Castroist
#8 Kimist
#9 Progressive
#10 Stalinist/Maoist
#11 Bookchinite
#12 Libertarian Socialist
#13 Christian Socialist
#14 Social Democrat

Justin

JoeyNormal
09-07-2002, 06:28 PM
#1 Anarchist
#2 Democratic Marxist
#3 DeLeonist
#4 Leninist-Trotskyist
#5 Castroist
#6 Democratic Socialist
#7 Bookchinite
#8 Shachtmanite
#9 Kimist
#10 Stalinist/Maoist
#11 Progressive
#12 Libertarian Socialist
#13 Christian Socialist
#14 Social Democrat

ChaoticThoughts
09-07-2002, 06:56 PM
#1 Progressive
#2 Shachtmanite
#3 Libertarian Socialist
#4 Anarchist
#5 Bookchinite

"PROGRESSIVISM: Belief in reforming government to rid it of bureaucracy and corruption, and to improve the quality of a society as a whole. Many Progressive reforms have been identified as socialistic over the years. The prime era for this movement, "The Progressive Era", occurred between 1900-1917. Well-known Progressives include Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, and Progressive-Party founder Robert M. La Follette. "

Powerboss
09-07-2002, 07:46 PM
1 Christian Socialist
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#2 Libertarian Socialist
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#3 Social Democrat
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#4 Progressive
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#5 Shachtmanite
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#6 Bookchinite
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#7 Democratic Marxist
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#8 Anarchist
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#9 Democratic Socialist
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#10 Castroist
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#11 Kimist
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#12 Stalinist/Maoist
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#13 DeLeonist
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#14 Leninist-Trotskyist
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Criminal
09-08-2002, 02:56 AM
This is me, though I see myself as being more of a Christian Socialist.


DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM: The belief that the equality which socialism is designed to bring cannot be achieved without democracy. Unlike Social Democracy, Democratic Socialists are more Left-wing than centrist. Democratic Socialists are opposed to both Communism and capitalism, feeling that both systems have failed to emancipate the workers of the world from exploitation. During the Cold War, when the Social Democrats sided with the capitalist West and the Communists sided with the East, Democratic Socialists were pulled in the middle, because they saw both systems as evil in different ways. While the Soviet Union had political inequality, America had economic inequality. Perhaps the earliest large Democratic Socialist movement in America was the Socialist Party of America, which was founded in 1901 by Eugene V. Debs and his comrades. Today, perhaps the best-known American advocate of Democratic Socialism is Howard Zinn, columnist for The Progressive, author of A People’s History of the United States, and professor emiritus of Boston University. The largest Democratic Socialist groups are the Socialist Party USA and the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). There are also Democratic Socialists within the Greens USA. Other world Democratic Socialist parties include the Socialist Party of the Netherlands, the German PDS, the Australian DSP, and the Japanese New Socialist Party.

Turbostang
09-08-2002, 01:40 PM
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Cynic
09-08-2002, 02:02 PM
so basically reverse order of leftism. makes sense.

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