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Manu
09-03-2002, 02:33 PM
TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Citing a lack of "basic freedoms" in Cuba, Gov. Jeb Bush urged Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura to reconsider his plans to attend a trade exposition there next month.

"While I don't expect you to cancel your trip, I strongly believe doing so would be the right thing to do," Bush said in a letter, dated August 29, to Ventura. "I encourage you to consider other options as you look for opportunities to expand international trade for your state."

But a spokesman for Ventura said the Minnesota governor did not agree with Bush's "isolationist approach" and would not alter his plans.

Ventura will help promote the sale to Cuba of Minnesota-produced food and agricultural products at the U.S. Food & Agribusiness Exhibition, to be held September 26-30 in Havana, his office said.

Exhibit organizers predict 18,000 to 20,000 people will attend the expo and that more than 150 companies, organizations and government offices from 30 states and the commonwealth of Puerto Rico will participate.

Ventura's announcement brought a swift response from his counterpart in Florida, home to a large Cuban exile community opposed to trade with the communist nation.

President Bush's brother urged Ventura to bear in mind during his trip that Cuban President Fidel Castro denies the 11 million Cuban people rights that Minnesotans -- and political independent Ventura -- take for granted.

"Speaking out against government policies, fighting for what you believe, or attempting to change the established order in an effort to create a better society will gain you the label of an 'independent' or 'maverick' in the United States," he wrote.

"In Cuba, you are called a 'dissenter' and an 'enemy of the revolution' -- and then summarily thrown in jail."

Money made from trade will be used by Castro and the Cuban government "to finance his oppressive regime to ensure its continued existence," Jeb Bush said.


Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura plans to promotoe state goods at a trade show in Cuba next month.
The island nation "simply is a bad credit risk," the Republican governor continued. He urged the former wrestler to meet with dissidents during his trip.

John Wodele, a spokesman for Ventura, said the governor would proceed with his trip to Cuba.

"On a personal level, he likes Governor Bush, but he just happens to disagree with Governor Bush's hardline positions," Wodele said.

"He believes that building a strong economic relationship will do a whole lot more to build government and cultural reforms than the isolationist approach Governor Bush endorses."

Organized by Westport, Connecticut-based PWN Exhibicon International LLC, the exhibition is licensed by the Office of Foreign Assets Control of the U.S. Department of the Treasury for representatives of U.S.-based companies and organizations.

A three-decade-old embargo on U.S. trade with the communist nation was altered by the Trade Sanctions Reform and Export Enhancement Act of 2000. It authorized the export of food and agricultural products from the United States to Cuba.

Since last December, U.S.-based companies have sold to Cuba-based entities $109 million worth of agricultural and food products, the conference organizers said.

This year, Cuba ranks 54th of 180 countries in terms of agricultural product purchases from United States-based companies, up from 138th last year and 180th in 2000, the organizers added.
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86Dude
09-03-2002, 04:43 PM
Ventura is such a moron. Of course, so is Jeb Bush.

ChaoticThoughts
09-04-2002, 01:51 AM
What do people expect? Elect an actor for president, a pro-wrestler for Governor...and countless corrupt others...you get what you deserve.

Criminal
09-08-2002, 02:41 AM
Criminal to Ventura... Go to Cuba and tell Jeb to stick it up his arse!!!!!

Hey, the Governer of Illinois, George Ryan went to Cuba twice and met with that old bearded fukker Castro. I salute anyone who is willing to thumb their nose at this hypocracy!!!!

Truth Teller
09-08-2002, 03:16 PM
I'd like to see Ventrura body slam Bush.:D

The embargo hurts only the people of Cuba and resentemnt of the emabargo probably keeps Castro in power.

Besdies ,who is Jeb Bush to tell anybody how to run a state? :D

Corporate Avenger
09-08-2002, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Criminal
Criminal to Ventura... Go to Cuba and tell Jeb to stick it up his arse!!!!!

Hey, the Governer of Illinois, George Ryan went to Cuba twice and met with that old bearded fukker Castro. I salute anyone who is willing to thumb their nose at this hypocracy!!!!



Yea, Ventura should tell Jeb Crow to go #%& himself...

RedLine99
09-08-2002, 05:14 PM
"In Cuba, you are called a 'dissenter' and an 'enemy of the revolution' -- and then summarily thrown in jail."

Yeah..lets feed the bastards and send them MTV and give you guys a place to go on holiday.

Corporate Avenger
09-08-2002, 05:29 PM
Funny how nobody cares when the president goes to a place like China... But a governor dares go to Cuba and watchout.. The attack dogs come out.. The American government has no right to tell it's citizens where it can and cannot go. The best thing people can do is to ignore them, they have no authority over us even though they think they do. They can eat lead..

Truth Teller
09-08-2002, 07:03 PM
CA is right.

Cuba does lots of hateful things [like locking up people only because of their sexual orentation,something most of you right-wingers probably approve of],but China is a million times more brutal,always have been and always will be,yet nobody [least of all Jeb Bush] says anything about China.

RedLine99
09-08-2002, 07:27 PM
Yeah, like you guys are going to be on the first boat to take on China. Gimme a break:o They'll be your best buds if they even start to breath hard on us.

Powerboss
09-09-2002, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by Truth Teller
CA is right.

Cuba does lots of hateful things [like locking up people only because of their sexual orentation,something most of you right-wingers probably approve of],

Will you please show us anywhere, anytime, any conservative on this website has ever mentioned this?

Sheesh, Id figure you'd like Cuba TT...after all they are a "humanist" government.



We shouldnt be dealing with Cuba, Red China, Saudi Arabia, or the many other pathetic countries that embrace totalitarianism, communism, or radical Islam.

Truth Teller
09-09-2002, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Powerboss


Will you please show us anywhere, anytime, any conservative on this website has ever mentioned this?



I said probably ,not definitely.

With all the homophoba some [not all] right-wingers here have it would be logical for them to apporve of it.

And I have heard right-wingers [granted,none of them here] say that while they hate Castro they approve of how he handles gays.

See the flim " Before Night Falls" , a true story about how Castro persecuted someone becasue he was both a dissdent and gay.


Sheesh, Id figure you'd like Cuba TT...after all they are a "humanist" government.



Noting about Cuba fits the defintion of humanism I posted here, what you said is just typical neo-conservative hate and disfinformation.

As I've said before I'm against any country that treats any of it's citizens inhuamnely,whereas most neo-conservatives seem to think it's allright to mureder,rape ot torute in the name of "anti-Communisim".

It's the right who is selective in it's morlaity,not the left.



We shouldnt be dealing with Cuba, Red China, Saudi Arabia, or the many other pathetic countries that embrace totalitarianism, communism, or radical Islam.



I don't think we should be dealing with any country that treats it's citizens inhumanely,that included right-wing as well as left-wing [or no wing].

Powerboss
09-09-2002, 04:19 PM
Noting about Cuba fits the defintion of humanism I posted here, what you said is just typical neo-conservative hate and disfinformation.

I see you've learned a new word too today.
One important criteria for being a neo-conservative is that they have dropped the abortion issue.
Have I dropped that issue?
I think not.

Now, the common definition of humanism, as known by many members here is that its communist. You, and a few friends have come up with some perverted meaning of it therefore your definition is not applicable.

Cuba does lots of hateful things [like locking up people only because of their sexual orentation,something most of you right-wingers probably approve of],

And what is this????? Neo-Humanist hate?

Truth Teller
09-09-2002, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Powerboss


I see you've learned a new word too today.
One important criteria for being a neo-conservative is that they have dropped the abortion issue.
Have I dropped that issue?
I think not.

Now, the common definition of humanism, as known by many members here is that its communist. You, and a few friends have come up with some perverted meaning of it therefore your definition is not applicable.



And what is this????? Neo-Humanist hate?


Harry Truman used to talk about the Republicans and people would say "give 'em hell Harry", Truman would respond "I only tell the truth and they think it's hell".

That's it,I tell the truth [as my handle says] and the neo-conservatives [and conservatives] think it's hell.

Marty-Mar
09-09-2002, 09:59 PM
I say Jesse should give Jeb THE CHAIR!!! :D

tryton
09-09-2002, 11:42 PM
As a resident of the state that he governs, I say that he should go to Cuba and never come back.

Marty-Mar
09-14-2002, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by tryton
As a resident of the state that he governs, I say that he should go to Cuba and never come back. So you're saying "the boot", not "the chair"?:D

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