Super Celeron to attack the Duron - In a news item that is quite interesting but fuzzy on some key details, Digitimes reports that "... Intel upgraded its Celeron processor with a 512K L2 cache and increased processing speed with the Coppermine-T core ..." What? The past tense makes it seem like it has already happened, and perhaps it has and motherboard makers have chips in hand. So, bye-bye, desktop Tualatin and PIII, and hello, super-Celeron. Further interesting data points from the Digitimes article state that by the end of 2001, the Celeron will be 40% of Intel's chip shipments. By Q2 2002, all Celerons will be made using Intel's .13 micron process. In August 2001, the 850MHz Celeron will be reduced to US$64, and a Coppermine-T core Celeron at 1.2GHz will be priced at US$103. It's not entirely clear from the article, but I believe that it is implied that the 1.2GHz Celeron will be available in August. Also, they note that, "Motherboard manufacturers will modify their Tualatin lines to suit the Celeron." Wow! If all of this happens on that timeline, AMD is going to face a lot tougher competition with their Duron processor. The Super Celeron is on the way. Now, will it work in a dual board? That would be nice. Perhaps this will actually make AMD do something besides selling the same speed chips for less and less money. The Super Celeron (as I call it, not Intel) will target the sub-$799 market. The $799 and over market will be aimed at by Pentium 4 systems with Intel's i845 SDRAM chipset. Digitimes reports that Intel may face a shortage of i845 chips. Towards the end of this year, it appears that Intel is really upping the performance bar and lowering prices. I won't complain about that. -
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Manu Narayan

So basically they're renaming the PIII 100mhz bus a Celeron?

Is it a 100?

I thought the new cellys that came out are 133 FSB...

But also, the .13 micron p3s are KILLER...

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Manu Narayan

Well, if it's an 850, it has to be a 100 bus. i.e. 100x8.5. 133 can't go into 850. That's why there are no 133 bus PIII 850's.


In any case, it seems to me like we're looking at a renamed PIII, after all, some of the older Celerons were no more than a socket 370 (vice slot 1) PII with a different name.


Damn, I can't wait to get out of the marines and get paid big bucks for this ****.

[This message has been edited by pitchafit (edited 07-30-2001).]

It still won't sell. Why? Intel now sucks. You're paying $64 for a sub-performance 850mhz chip when for about 15 bucks more you can get an Athlon 1g which has no problem handing an equally rated P3 and a higher rated P4 its arse. On a price/performance basis, it considerably closes the gap, but still doesn't surpass a Duron 750 (which goes for about $35). Kinda like Ford and Chevy. Chevy has had 200hp in their V6 Camaros since like 1992, and it takes Ford 7 years to get theirs up to 190.


--edit-- The Super Celery will be 100mhz. Current Celerons run a 66mhz bus, and 100 will be their max, as clock multipliers usually top off at like 14 or 14.5

[This message has been edited by slayr420 (edited 07-30-2001).]