Ok guys, i'd like to get to know your opinions on the current situation between Russia and Georgia, does the US gov. have the right to initiate the campaign against russia as an initiator no 1 because of the recent Russian and Georgian conflict by trying to isolate it from EU countries and US, And who do you thing will suffer the consequences more if the US gov will achieve what it is working on?

The problem with US policies of late is that it is left with little footing upon which to stand and preach to Russia. Abkhazia and South Ossetia want independence and Russia backs them and the US doesn't. But just last year, Russia warned (http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/30/news/kosovo.php) that Kosovo independence would "encourage separatist movements in the Russian-backed regions of Ossetia and Abkhazia in Georgia." Now that this has happened, what can the US say that won't appear hypocritical and vapid?

Bush fumes that Russia had "invaded a sovereign ... state" but we all know what Bush did to Iraq in 2003. The Kremlin and the rest of the world is laughing at the utter hypocrisy of this. Bush's administration has no only left the US military over-worked and over-stretched and the wallet empty but it has also left her very little diplomatic room to move around without coming off as an arrogant hypocrite that no one listens to anymore.

if a murderer tells you killing people is wrong does that mean we ignore what he says?

i ask this because lots of countries have done all kinds of shit they have pointed fingers at other countries for doing, the US isnt unique in this respect its just the US is just a favorite target for so many to bash.

yeah our government does some real ****ed up shit and yeah sometimes they call out other countries for doing that same ****ed up shit but that doesnt mean our government is wrong or should be ignored or just called hypocritical and ignored. whats wrong is wrong. i dont give a shit about this thing between russia and georgia, i dont live in either country BUT...since russia is now giving the finger to NATO and has dragged its heels in doing the things they signed an agreement to do after their little fracas with georgia i think they're being major *******s. now i live in america and we've done some pretty ******* things but that doesnt mean we arent allowed to point it out when we see it. if that was the case many a country wouldnt be able to say shit about what other countries are doing or have done.

you have a to learn to draw a line and say "yeah it seems hypocritical but if they're right in pointing it out then so be it." i know that doesnt gel with the bash america and be super critical over everything little it does and says and largely ignore what every other country does crowd but if its wrong for america to do (insert something you disagree with here) and other countries do it, then its just as wrong there too and it doesnt matter who is pointing the finger, wrong is wrong and even if a hypocrite is doing it its better than nobody doing it.

if a murderer tells you killing people is wrong does that mean we ignore what he says?

i ask this because lots of countries have done all kinds of shit they have pointed fingers at other countries for doing, the US isnt unique in this respect its just the US is just a favorite target for so many to bash.

yeah our government does some real ****ed up shit and yeah sometimes they call out other countries for doing that same ****ed up shit but that doesnt mean our government is wrong or should be ignored or just called hypocritical and ignored. whats wrong is wrong. i dont give a shit about this thing between russia and georgia, i dont live in either country BUT...since russia is now giving the finger to NATO and has dragged its heels in doing the things they signed an agreement to do after their little fracas with georgia i think they're being major *******s. now i live in america and we've done some pretty ******* things but that doesnt mean we arent allowed to point it out when we see it. if that was the case many a country wouldnt be able to say shit about what other countries are doing or have done.

you have a to learn to draw a line and say "yeah it seems hypocritical but if they're right in pointing it out then so be it." i know that doesnt gel with the bash america and be super critical over everything little it does and says and largely ignore what every other country does crowd but if its wrong for america to do (insert something you disagree with here) and other countries do it, then its just as wrong there too and it doesnt matter who is pointing the finger, wrong is wrong and even if a hypocrite is doing it its better than nobody doing it.

wow, very interesting and emotional opinion..
Well regarding your example of a murderer,
is an unpurnished murderer have the right to insist on other murderer's purnishment??
If to be more precise on the situation, the US gov is not only telling the world that russia did wrong, but it wants it to face so called critical for russia consequences, which are less beneficial for the US and for the whole world as it will only develop confrontation among the countries which is another step toward 3rd, or maib it's more correct to say, last world war..

and regarding NATO, its even clear to a child that it's only an organization following what the US gov wants and decides, so why not russia cannot give the finger to NATO and wouldn't have dragged its heels in doing the things they signed an agreement to do..???

NATO have passed it's expiry date when the US was the first who did the "real ****ed up shit" and give the finger to NATO..
NATO didn't even attempt to do anything on that "american" action

sorry, double post..

...does the US gov. have the right to initiate the campaign against russia...

Absolutely not. The obvious hypocrisy is that the ZionNazi AIPAC PNAC policy of bombing Iraq and flucking around in Afghanistan makes it okay for any country to attack another country. The less obvious element is that the US has no business flucking around with other country's disputes unless they are treating both sides as equals.

Absolutely not. The obvious hypocrisy is that the ZionNazi AIPAC PNAC policy of bombing Iraq and flucking around in Afghanistan makes it okay for any country to attack another country. The less obvious element is that the US has no business flucking around with other country's disputes unless they are treating both sides as equals.

)) so clever.. i'd rather be happy if you gave a suggestion on proper position to be taken by the US gov.. and avoiding this kind of things to happen in future..

Russians should die like dogs in a nuclear fire. The End.

Ok guys, i'd like to get to know your opinions on the current situation between Russia and Georgia, does the US gov. have the right to initiate the campaign against russia as an initiator no 1 because of the recent Russian and Georgian conflict by trying to isolate it from EU countries and US, And who do you thing will suffer the consequences more if the US gov will achieve what it is working on?

This is a sorded and complex situation. Maybe the international community should try to negotiate a peaceful resolution.

But for the US and Condi Rice to get up on its high horse and tell Russia how to behave is ludicrous. The Bush Administration has a long history of mucking up foreigh nations. They cant even govern their own country. Why in the hell should Putin or anyone else take these clowns seriously. :|

)) so clever..

Just stating the obvious which retards like PrankMonkey are too stupid to admit.

i'd rather be happy if you gave a suggestion on proper position to be taken by the US gov.. and avoiding this kind of things to happen in future..

First of all, blow meh. Second, since English is not your first language, I will rephrase my comment that y'all commented on. The US should not take sides, they should however seek a peaceful resolution to the conflict through diplomacy. Ya fluckin' dork.

Just stating the obvious which retards like PrankMonkey are too stupid to admit.



First of all, blow meh. Second, since English is not your first language, I will rephrase my comment that y'all commented on. The US should not take sides, they should however seek a peaceful resolution to the conflict through diplomacy. Ya fluckin' dork.

sorry verry much i english no good as your of englash.. i isn't anderstand whot your mean becoase your comment seems like you sarcasticly commented on my post by quoting it, but not prankmonkey.. ssorry for mesanderstandingggg,

This is a sorded and complex situation. Maybe the international community should try to negotiate a peaceful resolution.

But for the US and Condi Rice to get up on its high horse and tell Russia how to behave is ludicrous. The Bush Administration has a long history of mucking up foreigh nations. They cant even govern their own country. Why in the hell should Putin or anyone else take these clowns seriously. :|


fully agree with you, to be honest i don't like russians as well, cos with my chinese looking face i'm not wanted there especially by ****ing nazi skinheads.. but if we look at this case objectively it seems like the US is provoking war even though Russia is stepping back and just trying to defend its citizens in that part of georgia who were previously bombed by georgian force.. Hopefully the US will calm down and both sides will come out with a peaceful solution.. no wonder if this conflict has something to do with presidential elections in the US and if there was involvement of the US gov for Mccain's benefit..