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Nor'Easter
08-08-2008, 12:37 AM
I told you I saw a writing gig to do this kind of thing, but you called me a liar. Well, now they went and put the gig out for McCain points. Pathetic.

On AOL they have a whole slave ship posting 24/7 about how Barack Obama is going to destroy the nation and sell our women into Islamic hell if he gets elected. Really sick and hateful stuff being paid for on those "comments" posts, and if you go deep enough into the pages, you start seeing the comments start to become identical between different "posters". It's really some sick shit.

Anyway, here's a way for you straight-talkers to earn McBonus Points.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/06/AR2008080603589_pf.html

Win Points for McCain!
Rewards Program for Online Commenters

By Paul Farhi
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 7, 2008; C01

Spread John McCain's official talking points around the Web -- and you could win valuable prizes!

That, in essence, is the McCain campaign's pitch to supporters to join its new online effort, one that combines the features of "AstroTurf" campaigning with the sort of customer-loyalty programs offered by airlines, hotel chains, restaurants and the occasional daily newspaper.

On McCain's Web site, visitors are invited to "Spread the Word" about the presumptive Republican nominee by sending campaign-supplied comments to blogs and Web sites under the visitor's screen name. The site offers sample comments ("John McCain has a comprehensive economic plan . . .") and a list of dozens of suggested destinations, conveniently broken down into "conservative," "liberal," "moderate" and "other" categories. Just cut and paste.

Activists and political operatives have used volunteers or paid staff to seed radio call-in shows or letters-to-the-editor pages for years, typically without disclosing the caller or letter writer's connection to a candidate or cause. Like the fake grass for which the practice is named, such AstroTurf messages look as though they come from the grass roots but are ersatz.

McCain's campaign has taken the same idea and given it an Internet-era twist. It also has taken the concept one step further.

People who sign up for McCain's program receive reward points each time they place a favorable comment on one of the listed Web sites (subject to verification by McCain's webmasters). The points can be traded for prizes, such as books autographed by McCain, preferred seating at campaign events, even a ride with the candidate on his bus, known as the Straight Talk Express, according to campaign spokesman Brian Rogers.

"Anytime you're getting supporters activated into online communities or taking other actions to spread the word, that's a win," Rogers says.

"Reward points" or other incentives for political work aren't a new concept. The Republican National Committee started a rewards program for volunteer fundraisers several years ago. More recently, Barack Obama's campaign has given small donors and volunteers the chance to win a lunch or dinner with the candidate. (Obama's campaign doesn't have a comment program similar to McCain's.)

More chillingly, dissidents alleged earlier this year that the Chinese government has paid Chinese citizens token sums for each favorable comment about government policies they post in chat rooms and on blogs.

Offering incentives to spread presidential campaign rhetoric online makes sense, says Michael Cornfield, an adjunct professor at George Washington University and an expert in political management online. "Now that social media have expanded citizen comment opportunities far beyond the old letter to the editor and talk show call-in, campaigns should take advantage," he says.

BooRadley
08-08-2008, 06:26 AM
My God that's pathetic. I bet McCain wins, and I bet he makes GWB look like a competent president when he does.

We're ****ed.

Betrade
08-08-2008, 06:31 AM
This looks like smart campaigning to me. Utilizing technology and targeting your demographic a specifically as possible is just smart. I'm surprised that Obama isn't doing it yet.

Advertising is a like a science, and when a particular approach produces the desired result, you stick to it. If this works, everyone will eventually be doing it.

jeremix
08-08-2008, 07:44 AM
McCain is awesome!!

Now give me my money!:cooldance

Nor'Easter
08-08-2008, 11:54 AM
This looks like smart campaigning to me. Utilizing technology and targeting your demographic a specifically as possible is just smart. I'm surprised that Obama isn't doing it yet.

Advertising is a like a science, and when a particular approach produces the desired result, you stick to it. If this works, everyone will eventually be doing it.

It's smart campaigning when YOU DON'T ADVERTISE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT.

:nonono:

Nor'Easter
08-08-2008, 12:16 PM
This looks like smart campaigning to me. Utilizing technology and targeting your demographic a specifically as possible is just smart. I'm surprised that Obama isn't doing it yet.

Advertising is a like a science, and when a particular approach produces the desired result, you stick to it. If this works, everyone will eventually be doing it.

By the way, the GOP's been doing this since Bush/Kerry 2004 - as far as paying writers to do it on messageboards. It's not new, and all the 527's hire people to work their PAC "groundswell" on forums. New product marketers have been doing this for years as well. I know that one because I did some of that myself. Especially on music forums. Tossing in here and there about how great a new amp is or how some modelling processor kicks the shit out of some other modelling processor. To get those gigs you have to prove that you've been on such and such a board for a while and have established your credibility to a company marketing manager. The more boards you can show in the genre that they're targeting, the better your chances of getting a decent rate per post.

I've seen guys get hired on to independent marketing firms as W-4 salaried full-timers by having well-established forum credibility in all major pockets of the US @ the local and regional levels (where the real action is focused). That's a valuable forum poster for a product launch team to have since it's cheap, personal, and it slides right past the bullshit detectors of - let's say - a guy on a car mechanic info forum who's trying to get the straight dope on a after-market rod kit for a '69 Chevelle SS. If he gets sold by the guy who swears that it worked for him - and other folks on the board read the exchange - then the sale just impacted that guy, his pals, the folks at the store he'll get it at, and all the people who saw him get convinced, and all the people they'll impact with that new information. This is how YouTube videos go "viral" within days. Internet word-of-mouth marketing. No one suspects that primal level of professional marketing, and even now people assume it's just urban folklore. Well, it's not. It's real and I've done it myself.

This foolishness is as if the McLame campaign has just gotten their first AOL account and is now spamming everyone with joke emails that have the entire forward email list sitting right there for all to see. My father-in-law comes to mind. Great guy, but I really don't want to know the 67 other people on each of the email jokes forwards he sends out everyday. Poor John McCain. This may end up being a worse campaign than Dukakis in '88.

BooRadley
08-08-2008, 12:49 PM
Well, I just want to point out that John McCain has a comprehensive economic plan that will create millions of good American jobs, ensure our nation's energy security, get the government's budget and spending practices in order, and bring relief to American consumers. Click to learn how the McCain Economic Plan will help bring reform, prosperity and peace to America.

Ahem. (http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx)

Nor'Easter
08-09-2008, 10:39 PM
Well, I just want to point out that John McCain has a comprehensive economic plan that will create millions of good American jobs, ensure our nation's energy security, get the government's budget and spending practices in order, and bring relief to American consumers. Click to learn how the McCain Economic Plan will help bring reform, prosperity and peace to America.

Ahem. (http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx)

Hey, you look like you've been to this rodeo before.

Good job cowboy!

:nice:

grimrebuke
08-11-2008, 02:39 PM
My God that's pathetic. I bet McCain wins, and I bet he makes GWB look like a competent president when he does.

We're ****ed.

That is something that not even Garfield could have accomplished.

LiberTBell
08-11-2008, 05:27 PM
This stuff is a second rate FOX News approach to getting out the vote.

It's been going on for quite some time ( as the opening post seems to suggest.

They've got folks signing on to blogs and message boards just like this one to copy/paste the nutty crap the GOP comes up with.

The only thing different about THIS year is that THIS TIME they are truly desparate.

After all, none of the rights heavy hitters were dumb enough to to run, and all they were able to field (half heartedly) is an angry Magoo... a joke by anyone's standards.

In the past, they were able to get people to sign on and do their thing for the grand prize of a Mouse pad, tee shirt, a screen saver, and points towards meeting ( and probably licking the boots of) GOP bigshots.

Good luck with THAT.

Bozo the clown... ( who is currently in retirement) has a better chance of being elected that McCrazy does... and all the mouse pads and tee shirts in the world isn't going to change it.

optimus
08-11-2008, 05:34 PM
Isn't this hadit's and caddis' full time job?

BooRadley
08-11-2008, 08:35 PM
Isn't this hadit's and caddis' full time job?

ISn't caddis still "proving" we found stockpiles of WMDs in Iraq, and proof that Saddam was behind 9-11? Or is he over that, and on to cheerleeding McCain?

LiberTBell
08-11-2008, 09:35 PM
Isn't this hadit's and caddis' full time job?

Yeah, well.... You get what you pay for because they SUCK at it.

Corporate Avenger
08-11-2008, 11:00 PM
ISn't caddis still "proving" we found stockpiles of WMDs in Iraq, and proof that Saddam was behind 9-11? Or is he over that, and on to cheerleeding McCain?

Last I saw he was busy telling us what idiots we were for being right..:rolleyes:

cirque
08-12-2008, 12:10 AM
Isn't this hadit's and caddis' full time job?Still tossing insults at me when I'm not even in a thread? lol.


I guess I'll take it as a compliment. You must be seriously butt hurt optimud. You sure you aint one of the whiney-nanners that worked to get me banned?



BTW....Why don't you dig up all those threads where I've campaigned for McCain....If you can't, maybe you ought to STFU

cirque
08-12-2008, 12:12 AM
ISn't caddis still "proving" we found stockpiles of WMDs in Iraq, and proof that Saddam was behind 9-11? Or is he over that, and on to cheerleeding McCain?sorry BooHoo....I should have multi quoted that last post. You being one of the 3 stooges.

cirque
08-12-2008, 12:14 AM
Last I saw he was busy telling us what idiots we were for being right..:rolleyes:Hey...I have a full house. (Okay, 3 of a kind) Gosh, I should have read every post before I posted. Nothing better then having all three fools in one thread.




BTW....why don't all thee of you dig up all those threads where I have been campaigning for McCain

hadit
08-12-2008, 12:19 PM
Isn't this hadit's and caddis' full time job?

I see you've bought into the fever swamp mentality. It's sad how badly the gas has clouded your mind. BTW, I'm not even supporting McCain.

optimus
08-12-2008, 12:57 PM
This thread rocks!

optimus
08-12-2008, 01:06 PM
Still tossing insults at me when I'm not even in a thread? lol.

I guess I'll take it as a compliment. You must be seriously butt hurt optimud. You sure you aint one of the whiney-nanners that worked to get me banned?

BTW....Why don't you dig up all those threads where I've campaigned for McCain....If you can't, maybe you ought to STFU

Jesus Christ, you're a sensitive little bitch. My question was flippant, sarcastic, and not serious. It was for some easy comedy at your expense. No big deal.

You should develop thicker skin. And no I wasn't involved in working to get you banned, you paranoid loon.

I see you've bought into the fever swamp mentality. It's sad how badly the gas has clouded your mind. BTW, I'm not even supporting McCain.

:rolleyes:

See above.

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