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Truth-Bringer
07-24-2008, 10:09 AM
Read and learn.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jun/04/nhs.health2
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4073515.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4059589.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4040168.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4040146.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-555589/Pensioner-76--forced-pull-teeth-12-NHS-dentists-refuse-treat-her.html
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=127814&in_page_id=34
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-544112/Lung-patients-condemned-death-NHS-withdraws-expensive-drugs.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar/21/health.nhs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/mar/13/health.health
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar/07/nhs.health
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-521772/NHS-chiefs-tell-grandmother-61-shes-old-5-000-life-saving-heart-surgery.html
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Patient-39removed39-from-waiting-list.3733871.jp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/jun/08/health.politics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/may/30/health.politics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1551216/The-drugs-the-NHS-won%27t-give-you.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/may/10/cancercare.health
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-453742/One-trusts-putting-patients-mixed-sex-wards.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6634837.stm
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=24508
http://news.scotsman.com/changethecharges/Cancer-patients-told-lifeprolonging-treatment.3346290.jp
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-07-06T150315Z_01_L05660651_RTRUKOC_0_US-BRITAIN-NHS.xml&archived=False
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&xml=/health/2006/06/26/nold25.xml
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/british-dentistry.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukpay.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/23/do2303.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/23/ixnewstop.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukpay.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article703534.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article702894.ece
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_21213573.shtml
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukrejects.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukdeficit.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&xml=/health/2005/09/20/nhs17.xml
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e1b34ac2-07a7-11da-a742-00000e2511c8.html?nclick_check=1
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukbritishboy.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article550122.ece
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukcrime.html
http://www.abcmoney.co.uk/news/252005298.htm
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/20/news/smoke.php
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article534978.ece
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27ab0ab8-d94c-11d9-8403-00000e2511c8.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukmeals.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jun/03/politics.publicservices
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&targetRule=10&xml=/health/2005/05/05/ndent03.xml
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/uknursesperyear.html
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36592
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=af4fx9hNVduw&refer=uk
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6d7cae56-8abf-11d9-9059-00000e2511c8.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/feb/11/politics.publicservices
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukfacingfinan.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/feb/06/NHS.medicineandhealth
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/NHS-financial-crises-set-to.937371.jp
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukpriority.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/4173073.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/oct/19/NHS.politics
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/computer.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/oct/04/medicineandhealth.NHS
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/13458.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3632080.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/sep/04/NHS.politics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/25/nrite25.xml&site=5
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jul/24/health.politics
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/stiff.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/uknurses.html
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=1304
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3561483.stm
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/rampant.html
http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=5112
http://www.lewrockwell.com/watson/watson13.html
http://www.cascadepolicy.org/spiers.htm
http://www.ncpa.org/health/pdh57.html
http://server.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=2640

KanuckiStang
07-24-2008, 10:29 AM
There's not enough bandwidth to post links telling of the horrors of free-market, for-profit medicine.

Can you at least admit that both extremes have their own set of serious problems and that a compromise path is probably the best overall?

grimrebuke
07-24-2008, 11:00 AM
There's not enough bandwidth to post links telling of the horrors of free-market, for-profit medicine.

Can you at least admit that both extremes have their own set of serious problems and that a compromise path is probably the best overall?

That would require critical thinking, something the right is devoid of these days.

oki
07-24-2008, 11:16 AM
it helps if you make an actual point, when you start a topic.

cirque
07-24-2008, 11:58 AM
Read and learn.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jun/04/nhs.health2
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4073515.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4059589.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4040168.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4040146.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-555589/Pensioner-76--forced-pull-teeth-12-NHS-dentists-refuse-treat-her.html
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=127814&in_page_id=34
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-544112/Lung-patients-condemned-death-NHS-withdraws-expensive-drugs.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar/21/health.nhs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/mar/13/health.health
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/mar/07/nhs.health
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-521772/NHS-chiefs-tell-grandmother-61-shes-old-5-000-life-saving-heart-surgery.html
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Patient-39removed39-from-waiting-list.3733871.jp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/jun/08/health.politics
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/may/30/health.politics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1551216/The-drugs-the-NHS-won%27t-give-you.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/may/10/cancercare.health
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-453742/One-trusts-putting-patients-mixed-sex-wards.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6634837.stm
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=24508
http://news.scotsman.com/changethecharges/Cancer-patients-told-lifeprolonging-treatment.3346290.jp
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-07-06T150315Z_01_L05660651_RTRUKOC_0_US-BRITAIN-NHS.xml&archived=False
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&xml=/health/2006/06/26/nold25.xml
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/british-dentistry.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukpay.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/23/do2303.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/23/ixnewstop.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukpay.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article703534.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article702894.ece
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_21213573.shtml
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukrejects.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukdeficit.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&xml=/health/2005/09/20/nhs17.xml
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e1b34ac2-07a7-11da-a742-00000e2511c8.html?nclick_check=1
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukbritishboy.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article550122.ece
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukcrime.html
http://www.abcmoney.co.uk/news/252005298.htm
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/20/news/smoke.php
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article534978.ece
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/27ab0ab8-d94c-11d9-8403-00000e2511c8.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukmeals.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/jun/03/politics.publicservices
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=P8&targetRule=10&xml=/health/2005/05/05/ndent03.xml
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/uknursesperyear.html
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=36592
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=af4fx9hNVduw&refer=uk
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6d7cae56-8abf-11d9-9059-00000e2511c8.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/feb/11/politics.publicservices
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukfacingfinan.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2005/feb/06/NHS.medicineandhealth
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/NHS-financial-crises-set-to.937371.jp
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/ukpriority.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/4173073.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/oct/19/NHS.politics
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/computer.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/oct/04/medicineandhealth.NHS
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/13458.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3632080.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/sep/04/NHS.politics
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/25/nrite25.xml&site=5
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2004/jul/24/health.politics
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/stiff.html
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/uknurses.html
http://www.news-medical.net/?id=1304
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3561483.stm
http://www.liberty-page.com/issues/healthcare/rampant.html
http://www.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=5112
http://www.lewrockwell.com/watson/watson13.html
http://www.cascadepolicy.org/spiers.htm
http://www.ncpa.org/health/pdh57.html
http://server.fee.org/publications/the-freeman/article.asp?aid=2640


I think that one link was complete BS. What in the world were you thinking posting that link?

:|

Pappy&Me
07-24-2008, 01:08 PM
There's not enough bandwidth to post links telling of the horrors of free-market, for-profit medicine.

Can you at least admit that both extremes have their own set of serious problems and that a compromise path is probably the best overall?


Their was nothing wrong with free market for profit care .

Maybe you would like for your job to be government controlled too and you could collect your minimum wage check ! :mad:

Before that idot Reagan gave amnesty to millions of illegals and other non assimilating hordes we had great medical care for all Americans .

Now the whole dicatorship is for open borders and we are a more than 300 million and rising everyday . They don't care what the American people want .And the sheep won't stop them by voting their treasonous ass's out of office. That is if the votes even count anyore . We are no longer soveign or a melting pot, but now a salad bowl of mixed fruits,nuts and dumbed down suckers .

Poor in this nation had better health care than the middle class in all others . Now we can't see a dr. for months ,not because of free interprise but because of over population from the third world who use our hospitals and clinics for family practice !

No way in hell would I go to school and rack my brains for up to 12 yr.s to give away my services , it's insane to expect dr.s to do it .

Canada is now begging our dr.s to come there to practice, so far no takers .

soylentgreen
07-24-2008, 01:11 PM
Read and learn.Coming to a state near you!!

The government of the United States has demonstrated utter failure in just about every arena. I'm not sure why socialized medicine would be any different than Social Security is now. I don't know why anyone would think that the same mis-management wouldn't apply.

Pappy&Me
07-24-2008, 01:30 PM
Coming to a state near you!!

The government of the United States has demonstrated utter failure in just about every arena. I'm not sure why socialized medicine would be any different than Social Security is now. I don't know why anyone would think that the same mis-management wouldn't apply.



Social Security and socialist medicine are no comprison to each other.

We pay into it all our working lives and nobody has to have 12 years of college to send us our checks . The crooks who manage it have only ' managed' to spend it but they are not well educated theves. Dr.s are very well educated and put in lots of their youth and labor to be dr.s .

We have people who not only can speak english but can't even read their own language coming in the millions every year . The middle class will die feeding, caring and providing for them all. They also breed like rabbits .

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