Ladies, follow this and everything will be much better.

Whitey,

Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready

Oh I must be the perfect wife. I do make his favorite meals and have them ready when he gets home. That is if I can race to KFC and get back before he pulls in the driveway, or they have all different flavors of Hamburger Helper at the store when I go shopping.

Prepare yourself

I do "prepare" myself for when he gets home. I wash my face, run a brush through my hair for the first time that day and the minute he steps in the door, I hand off the ankle-biting two-year old and the baby to him and run like hell. I am nice about it though--I change their diapers first.

Be a little gay

I ain't gay,But I sure as hell am happy... I smile and laugh my ass off all the way out the door after handing the carpet crawlers to him and running like hell.

Clear away the clutter

I did. That's why he no longer lives here. He had to go live at the dump after I cleared away all the other clutter--including his tools, dirty clothes, books and the dog.

Gather up books, toys, papers, etc.

(See above) Sorry got rid of the tables along with the other clutter.

Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by

This I do very well, should get an award for it in fact. I lite a fire under his butt to fix the damn heater that hasn't worked since Nixon was in office.

Prepare the children.They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part

Ya know my mother used to do this and found out it was illegal. I prepare the rugrats..I change their diapers, feed them and give them to him for the rest of the night.
As far as the elliminating the noise of the washer and vacuum..Well I did that too. I quit doing housework all together.

Be happy to see him

I AM happy to see him..Who else would I have to hand off the curtain-climbers to?

Greet him with a warm smile and show your sincerity

I am truly sincere. I sincerely hope the wombats drive him as batty as they have driven me the whole day.

Listen to him

I did listen to him...How do ya think I ended up with the porch-monkeys?

Don’t complain if he is late for dinner or even stays out all night

I wouldn't say a word if he did this...Changed locks and shotguns say it soooooo much better.

Make him comfortable, arrange his pillow

It's on the bed--he knows where to find it.

Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him

LMFAO..And one has to ask..On what planet was the author of this tripe born?

·A good wife always knows her place. Stay in it

Yup they sure do..DIVORCE COURT. Sticking it to the "master of the house" for every dime he has.

Now to the rest of you..I say the above with all the facetiousness I can...I don't always hand off the carpet crawlers and run like hell..sometimes I stick around to watch.


I just have to laugh at this BS. We had June Cleaver in the 50's and 60's and I highly doubt she would have let ol Ward stay out all night without questioning his whereabouts. She may bave been Susie-Homemaker but ya notice they slept in seperate beds.
I raised three kids of my ex's before I met Alex and we started our family on top of raising his boys. I worked at construction and most days my husband got home before I did. I can nail on a roof, frame a house, change the oil and a flat tire. If I can learn those my husband can darn well learn how to cook and do laundry. If he can't bend over and take off his own shoes it's time to put him out of my misery.

Now Whitey,

Glad to hear you have a girlfriend that works 60-plus hours a week and comes home and follows these little "guidelines" for you. If I believe that, I'd be buying bridges all over the place. If in fact she does exist I would tend to think she is gone for 60-plus hours a week but it would be a good bet she isn't working that whole time. Nope, my bet is that you are just dreaming, and your other half is just something you pull out from under the bed, blow up, and play with for a while.

A man's point of view:


It is important for men to remember that as women grow older it becomes harder for them to maintain the same quality of housekeeping they did when they were younger.
When men notice this, they should try not to yell.

Let me relate how I handle the situation.


When I chucked my job and took early retirement a year ago, it became necessary for Nancy to get a full-time job both for extra income and for health insurance benefits that we need.
She was a trained lab tech when we met thirty some years ago and was fortunate to land a job at the local medical center as a phlebotomist.


It was shortly after she started working at this job that I noticed that she was beginning to show her age. I usually get home from fishing or hunting about the same time she gets home from work.


Although she knows how hungry I am, she almost always says that she has to rest for half an hour or so before she starts supper. I try not to yell at her when this happens. Instead, I tell her to take her time. I understand that she is not as young as she used to be. I just tell her to wake me when she finally does get supper on the table.


She used to wash and dry the dishes as soon as we finished eating. It is now not unusual for them to sit on the table for several hours after supper. I do what I can by reminding her several times each evening that they aren't cleaning themselves.
I know she appreciates this, as it does seem to help her get them done before she goes to bed.


Our washer and dryer are in the basement. When she was younger, Nancy used to be able to go up and down the stairs all day and not get tired.


Now that she is older she seems to get tired so much more quickly. Sometimes she says she just can't make another trip down those steps. I don't make a big issue of this. As long as she finishes up the laundry the next evening I am willing to overlook it. Not only
that, but unless I need something ironed to wear to the Monday's lodgemeeting or to Wednesday's or Saturday's poker club or to Tuesday's or
Thursday's bowling or something like that, I will tell her to wait until the next evening to do the ironing.


This gives her a little more time to do some of those odds and ends things like shampooing the dog, vacuuming, or dusting. Also, if I have had a really good day fishing, this allows her to gut and scale the fish at a more leisurely pace.


Nancy is starting to complain a little occasionally. Not often, mind you, but just enough for me to notice.


For example, she will say that it is difficult for her to find time to pay the monthly bills during her lunch hour. In spite of her complaining, I continue to try to offer encouragement. I tell her to stretch it out over two or even three days. That way she
won't have to rush so much. I also remind her that missing lunch completely now and then wouldn't hurt her any, if you know what Imean.


When doing simple jobs she seems to think she needs more rest periods than she used to have to take. A couple of weeks ago she said she had to take a break when she was only half finished mowing the yard.


I overlook comments like these because I realize it's just age talking. In fact, I try to not embarrass her when she needs these little extra rest breaks. I tell her to fix herself a nice, big, cold glass of freshly squeezed lemonade and just sit for a while. I tell her that as long as she is making one for herself, she may as well make one for me and take her break by the hammock so she can talk with me until I fall asleep.


I could go on and on, but I think you know where I'm coming from.


I know that I probably look like a saint in the way I support Nancy on a daily basis.


I'm not saying that the ability to show this much consideration is easy. Many men will find it difficult. Some will find it impossible. No one knows better than I do how frustrating women can become as they get older.


My purpose in writing this is simply to suggest that you make the effort.
I realize that achieving the exemplary level of showing consideration I have attained is out of reach for the average man. However guys, even if you just yell at your wife a little
less often because of this article, I will consider that writing it was worthwhile.

Well, I just came back after a couple days absence and saw Whitey's original thread. Too bad it was closed before I could reply. :D


Whitey - instead of marrying her, would you wait for me, please? You see, I would have absolutely NO PROBLEM living like that. *Especially the next to last item - because when you made a really bad decision and everything went south, I'd waste *no* opportunity to remind you! LOL :D


Luv ya, Hun! ;)

Im single....so i wont post anything here.

...I just wanted to say that I saw a cat once.

RWZ, you ARE being sarcastic, right?

>RWZ, you ARE being sarcastic, right?<


Im NEVER sarcastic.
EVER!

Originally posted by Gator
Im single....so i wont post anything here.

...I just wanted to say that I saw a cat once.


My cat's breath smells like cat food

There's certain women that fulfill their lives by being fulfilling to someone else in this way. Then there is the rest of us with a life... :D

Originally posted by buggy
There's certain women that fulfill their lives by being fulfilling to someone else in this way. Then there is the rest of us with a life... :D

Exactly..


Excellent post Also Tamarra!
Your my IDOL :D

Originally posted by buggy
There's certain women that fulfill their lives by being fulfilling to someone else in this way. Then there is the rest of us with a life... :D

My wife 'fulfills' her life by fulfilling our children's lives. Ditto for myself. She also fulfills her life by fulfilling mine. Again, ditto. The lack of self-sacrifice demonstrated by many parents today, and the lack of commitment in their marital relationships is just plain amazing. Is it any wonder that divorces are so prevalent? Is it any wonder that so many kids are screwed up?

What is so wrong with putting the needs of your loved ones ahead of your own? If self-sacrifice aint your bag, don't date, don't shack-up, don't get married, and don't have kids. Any of those actions will require sacrifices.

Originally posted by DngrMse


My wife 'fulfills' her life by fulfilling our children's lives. Ditto for myself. She also fulfills her life by fulfilling mine. Again, ditto. The lack of self-sacrifice demonstrated by many parents today, and the lack of commitment in their marital relationships is just plain amazing. Is it any wonder that divorces are so prevalent? Is it any wonder that so many kids are screwed up?

What is so wrong with putting the needs of your loved ones ahead of your own? If self-sacrifice aint your bag, don't date, don't shack-up, don't get married, and don't have kids. Any of those actions will require sacrifices.

i think buggy is referring more to completely basing your life on the fulfillment of others. that just leaves you as an empty person.
it's cool to fulfill your family as much as you can, but you have to be in that equation, too, and when it comes to osmething like the wife's "place" being in the kitchen, that just isn't cool. everybody has to fulfill themselves, too.
i don't think it's a matter of "putting the needs of your loved ones before your own", because that really sounds like a smack to buggy - because she has a life she also pursues, suddenly she's a bad person for not always putting someone else before her? sometimes you need to pay homage to numero uno first - and a marriage is based on the compromise of both positions - sometimes you ned to follow yourself, sometimes you need to follow others.
i mean, if all you ever did was fulfill others, then why have a nice car? that money could be put into a child's education fund. why have nice clothes and go out and get babysitters - that's all money that could be put towards the children.
in other words, it's necessary to do what you can for your children, but it is no one's "place" to be subservent to others before themselves, sometimes number one needs to come first, and sometimes it's the responsibility of themselves and others to understand that.

Originally posted by mrWr0ng


i think buggy is referring more to completely basing your life on the fulfillment of others. that just leaves you as an empty person.
it's cool to fulfill your family as much as you can, but you have to be in that equation, too, and when it comes to osmething like the wife's "place" being in the kitchen, that just isn't cool. everybody has to fulfill themselves, too.
i don't think it's a matter of "putting the needs of your loved ones before your own", because that really sounds like a smack to buggy - because she has a life she also pursues, suddenly she's a bad person for not always putting someone else before her? sometimes you need to pay homage to numero uno first - and a marriage is based on the compromise of both positions - sometimes you ned to follow yourself, sometimes you need to follow others.
i mean, if all you ever did was fulfill others, then why have a nice car? that money could be put into a child's education fund. why have nice clothes and go out and get babysitters - that's all money that could be put towards the children.
in other words, it's necessary to do what you can for your children, but it is no one's "place" to be subservent to others before themselves, sometimes number one needs to come first, and sometimes it's the responsibility of themselves and others to understand that.

I agree with all of that, I guess I misunderstood the entire thread. I do like to think this culture has progressed beyond that weird 'June Cleaver-ish' era. ;)

mrwr0ng summed it up well for me. I'm of the thinking that 1 + 1 = 2, so I don't just want to be someone's better half. Before I even got myself into a serious relationship, I wanted to make sure I was complete emotionally and financially. If someone else had to complete me, then I'd be broken if it didn't work out. I firmly believe that in order to have a respectful and lasting relationship, you need to be a full, complete person... past any emotional scarring or need to be on a pedestal by someone else.

With that said, I am also a nazi when it comes to kids. When and if I have them, it will mean I have completely surrended to them. No work for me (I love to work), I will nurture and bond with my kids. No dropping them off at daycare because well, I need to get a manicure or have lunch with the girls (I don't even do that NOW, butcha get my drift)... my life will be theirs. My parents did such with me and my goal is to be an even better parent... which is probably why I don't have kids, I am not ready to be unselfish.

If someone feels their life is complete by being someone's other half, more power to them... it's just not for me. I adore and respect my husband, but he is a grown up... he can fetch his own meals, he can even cook them if he's hungry... he can help me with laundry and he can clean the kitchen after dinner. I was not put on this earth to be anyone else's mother besides the person I carry in my womb when that day comes.

Anyway, just my .03 :)

Cristina-

just to add my two cents:
the Guide that Whitey originally posted is from some sort of text book from the 1950s (a home economics course, perhaps?). My history professor read it out to my class last year.

We know, Kahani...LOL they tried to feed us old farts that junk back in the stone age, too...LOL

*Lights a few candles around Tamara's post. Says a few Hail Tamaras*