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Truth Teller
05-06-2008, 06:31 PM
I just saw the Martin Scorsese/Rolling Stones film Shine A Light and it's a masterpiece.

No director in history has welded film and music better than Scorsese has and no band has aged better than The Rolling Stones.

The flim is a documentray of two charity concerts The Stones gave last year for Bill Clinton's foundation [Republicans and Obama fans might want to come 15 minutes late since the first 15 minutes is mostly The Stones talking to Bill and Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton introducing The Stones].

This is Scorse's third rockumentary as a director [he previously directed The Last waltz,The Band's farwell show and Bob Dylan : No Direction Home,as a non-director he was involved in the Woodstock film and in two Elvis Presley rockumentries Elvis That's The Way It Is and Elvis On Tour].

While guests Jack White and Christina Aguilera are good,the only one on the level of The Stones is Buddy Guy

Scorsese used the very finest cameramen and The Stones have never played or sang better.

Snouter
05-06-2008, 06:59 PM
...the only one on the level of The Stones is Buddy Guy

Incorrect.

Scorsese used the very finest cameramen and The Stones have never played or sang better.

Incorrect.

No_Brakes
05-06-2008, 07:04 PM
His Buddy Guy reference is in regards to those who appear in the film, I believe.

Who else is in it that you would say is on the Stones' level, Snout?

GanjaFreebird
05-06-2008, 08:07 PM
While guests Jack White and Christina Aguilera are good,the only one on the level of The Stones is Buddy Guy


Jack White (just like Amy Winehouse) is among the very few new popular artists that I really like a lot. I never cared for Christina Aguilera until her recent Blues and classic R&B oriented recordings, that's when I realized how good of a singer she is. Her and John Mayer became famous by recording pop crap, but used their fame very well by going back to the good music as soon as they could. As a younger musician with simial musical inspirations, I can definately relate to them, myself.

I've seen Buddy Guy live (and met him for a few seconds) a couple of months ago, and that was one of the best shows!! These days, I don't know any other virtuoso musician with such amazing dynamics, not to mention, showmanship and contact with the audience.

I can't say he's among my top favorite Blues vocalists or songwriters (I prefer Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, Albert, B.B. and Freddy, Robert Johnson, Blind Willie Jonson, Charley Patton...) but as a guitar player, he can play anything and everything...very quite, very loud, slow, fast...sometimes all within ONE song, and he makes the audience feel every note he plays or sings. He also showed the crowd that (in addition to his own style) he can do great immitations of SRV, Clapton, B.B. King, Hendrix, Albert King, T-Bone Walker, and others (he'd call out their names and play a solo, their style).

I actually have live recordings of Buddy Guy with the Stones that go back to the 1980's, there are also a few videos I've seen on youtube of him jamimng with Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood.

Saison
05-07-2008, 08:06 AM
I heard there was full frontal nudity in this one. May be worth seeing for that alone. :eek3:

Truth Teller
05-07-2008, 05:17 PM
His Buddy Guy reference is in regards to those who appear in the film, I believe.



Of course ,only a fool would think otherwise.

Jack White (just like Amy Winehouse) is among the very few new popular artists that I really like a lot.


I like Jack White too,he can realy play electric guitar.

But in the film he plays rhythm acoustic guitar and the song he and Jagger does ["Loving Cup"] is [IMHO] one of The Stones' weaker songs and the only weak song in the film.



I never cared for Christina Aguilera until her recent Blues and classic R&B oriented recordings, that's when I realized how good of a singer she is. Her and John Mayer became famous by recording pop crap, but used their fame very well by going back to the good music as soon as they could. As a younger musician with simial musical inspirations, I can definately relate to them, myself.


She is very good,she and Jagger do a fine version of "Live With Me",but I would have prefered Jagger singing that with Tina Turner [it may be my age talking,either way,that's who I am].


I've seen Buddy Guy live (and met him for a few seconds) a couple of months ago, and that was one of the best shows!! These days, I don't know any other virtuoso musician with such amazing dynamics, not to mention, showmanship and contact with the audience.


Yeah ,he and The Stones do a fine version of a obscure Muddy Waters song called "Champagne And Reefer" and it's f#ckin' awesome.



I can't say he's among my top favorite Blues vocalists or songwriters (I prefer Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, Albert, B.B. and Freddy, Robert Johnson, Blind Willie Jonson, Charley Patton...) but as a guitar player, he can play anything and everything...very quite, very loud, slow, fast...sometimes all within ONE song, and he makes the audience feel every note he plays or sings.


Agreed.


I actually have live recordings of Buddy Guy with the Stones that go back to the 1980's, there are also a few videos I've seen on youtube of him jamimng with Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood.

Yeah,he can bring out the best in others like The Stones or [in the Last Man Standing album and concert] Jerry Lee Lewis.


I heard there was full frontal nudity in this one.


I must have missed that.:confused:

Truth Teller
05-07-2008, 05:23 PM
Of course The Stones had a great band.

As well as Jagger,Richard,Watts and Wood playing amongst their best ever,they also had other excellent musicians like Chuck Leavell on keybords ,Bobby Keys on sax and former Beach Boys member Blondie Chapman on vocals.

Link to Chuck Levall's website www.chuckleavell.com

GanjaFreebird
05-08-2008, 05:30 AM
Of course The Stones had a great band.

As well as Jagger,Richard,Watts and Wood playing amongst their best ever,they also had other excellent musicians like Chuck Leavell on keybords ,Bobby Keys on sax and former Beach Boys member Blondie Chapman on vocals.

I really want to watch the whole thing. The parts I've seen seem to be great.

Who's playing the percussions for them this time?:confused: A legendary percussion player, who is also a very good friend of mine (aslo known for his work with Paul McCartney, Steve Winwood and Traffic, Paul Simon, Jimi Hendrix and many others) has been playing with The Rolling Stones off and on since 1968, and he still plays with them whenever they are in CA, so I'm wondering if he might be on it.

I like Jack White too,he can realy play electric guitar.

He's one of the best guitarists today, and his knowledge of delta blues (Son House, Bline Willie McTell and others) is amazing, in particular.

She is very good,she and Jagger do a fine version of "Live With Me",but I would have prefered Jagger singing that with Tina Turner [it may be my age talking,either way,that's who I am].


That was one of the few parts that I got to see, and I thought it was very good, although I sure agree with you 100% about Tina Turner (who is still great, but for the most part, has retired), as she is my favorite female singer, besides Janis Joplin, maybe.

Yeah ,he and The Stones do a fine version of a obscure Muddy Waters song called "Champagne And Reefer" and it's f#ckin' awesome.


Hardly an "obscure" song. That song is, ironically, what (from my experience) got most people from my generation (and younger) into listening to Muddy Waters. It might have been obscure during Muddy's lifetime, but since then, it was covered by many Blues and Rock artists, including myself, going all the way back to the 1980's when Buddy Guy covered it live with Stevie Ray Vaughn. I especially like it when Philip Sayce (also known as Mellisa Ethridge's lead guitarist, and for his work with the late great Jeff Healey) does this song live.

I can't wait to hear Buddy Guy do it with the Stones.



Yeah,he can bring out the best in others like The Stones or [in the Last Man Standing album and concert] Jerry Lee Lewis.

I agree 100%.

Truth Teller
05-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Who's playing the percussions for them this time?:confused:

I don't remember.


A legendary percussion player, who is also a very good friend of mine (aslo known for his work with Paul McCartney, Steve Winwood and Traffic, Paul Simon, Jimi Hendrix and many others) has been playing with The Rolling Stones off and on since 1968, and he still plays with them whenever they are in CA, so I'm wondering if he might be on it.


These shows were in New York.



He's one of the best guitarists today, and his knowledge of delta blues (Son House, Bline Willie McTell and others) is amazing, in particular.


Agreed.

I was also impressed with the album he did with Loretta Lynn.





Hardly an "obscure" song. That song is, ironically, what (from my experience) got most people from my generation (and younger) into listening to Muddy Waters.


Maybe it isn't obscure to your generation,to mine it is.



It might have been obscure during Muddy's lifetime,


"She's Nineteen years Old" was way better known during Muddy's lifetime and that wasn't nearly as well known as "Got My Mojo Working","Hootchie Cootchie Man" or [especially] "Mannish Boy".


I can't wait to hear Buddy Guy do it with the Stones.

It is great and at the end [at least on the album,I don't recall this in the film] Jagger says "Buddy Mother#ucking Guy".:D

GanjaFreebird
05-08-2008, 04:15 PM
These shows were in New York.

Yeah, Remi Kabaka usually doesn't play with them outside of CA, although it's too bad, because (among their back-up musicians) I think he's the only one who goes all the way back to their Brian Jones years (it was Brian who introduced him to the band and asked him to play on "Sympathy for the Devil").

Agreed.

I was also impressed with the album he did with Loretta Lynn.

He's a great all-around musician. Unlike most of today's modern Blues players (who basically attempt to immitate Clapton's and SRV's solos), he actually UNDERSTANDS the Blues and how to REALLY play it, going back all the beginning.

Maybe it isn't obscure to your generation,to mine it is.


Right, it could be. I, personally, discovered Muddy Waters because I've been listening to early Rolling Stones recordings since I was about 9. But many people my age, and younger, they get attracted to this song (because of "pot culture":p), and that applies especially to young people who are already into roots-inspired music (Sublime, Phish, Dave Matthews, or even Grateful Dead).

"She's Nineteen years Old" was way better known during Muddy's lifetime and that wasn't nearly as well known as "Got My Mojo Working","Hootchie Cootchie Man" or [especially] "Mannish Boy".

Right, it's the "pot culture" that made that song look "cool" to the younger generation. Some of them may not even know it's by Muddy Waters, but still.
Maybe that's why the Stones decided to cover that song:p.


It is great and at the end [at least on the album,I don't recall this in the film] Jagger says "Buddy Mother#ucking Guy".

:nice:

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