All credit of course goes to Orson Scott Card.
Hillary is claiming that if you count her votes in Michigan and Florida, she got the most votes.

But that's a typical Clinton lie. Barack Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan. And yet so many voters detested Hillary Clinton that forty-five percent of them went to the polls to vote against her, casting their ballots for unpledged delegates.

In other words, even when she was running unopposed, Hillary had so many negatives that she could only win by ten points!

And if you count those unpledged votes in Barack Obama's column, which is where they would certainly have gone, then Hillary's argument evaporates. Obama would still have a clear plurality of votes ... and delegates.

There's no way around it: If Obama doesn't get the nomination, the nomination won't be worth having. With the negatives Hillary already brings to the table, there's no way she could hope to win in November without the enthusiastic support of the black community.

So why is she still pushing for a nomination that will be worthless to her if she gets it?

Is she really that dumb?

Some people think that Hillary expects that once she gets the nomination, she can then pull a rabbit out of the hat, Clinton style, and get black people to love her again.

Maybe she's that insanely optimistic, but I don't think she's that dumb. Black voters have memories that last longer than three months. If she "steals" the nomination, she will have zero credibility even if she grovels to black voters every day till the election.

No, Hillary has a very different plan. She knows she's lost for 2008, but she's planning for 2012.

He goes more into the details of the alleged plan later in the article. Very good read to say the least.

It's a heck of a great plan, and I hope she doesn't pull it off.

...aaaand here's the link (http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-04-27-1.html).

...aaaand here's the link (http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-04-27-1.html).

:doh:
How the hell did I miss that?

Her no-lose strategy is losing at the moment. Blown out in N. Carolina, and 300K votes still out in an Obama stronghold in northern Indiana with about 40K votes between the two candidates at this time of the night. A squeaker at best and potentially a loss for her.

The talk is about the Super Delegates shutting this thing down soon.

You can also read another article about it here (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/04/clinton-camp-considering_n_100051.html).

She should have to run as a Republican

She's almost more Republican than McCain is. McCain, if you remember, fired a campaign staffer for forwarding an e-mail about Obama's alleged ties to radical Islam. Hillary is the only one playing dirty right now.

And that's really sad.

Are Orson Scott Card and Harry Reid the only two Democrat Mormons? :hmm:

What if she doesn't do particularly well in Indiana and North Carolina? (I'm certainly voting for Obama in North Carolina's Democratic primary, and I expect to see Obama take this state in a landslide.)


Or is he just voting for Obama for the hell of it? Funny, I do like some of his fiction, but based upon the way its written I pegged him as a Repub all the way. That and the Mormon thing. I guess I shouldn't stereotype. :|

All credit of course goes to Orson Scott Card.


He goes more into the details of the alleged plan later in the article. Very good read to say the least.

It's a heck of a great plan, and I hope she doesn't pull it off.

Hillary's Berserker Campaign ... for 2012
Blonde Ambition
By JEFFREY ST. CLAIR

Hillary Clinton can not win the Democratic nomination for president. The numbers tell the story. Even with robust victories in Pennsylvania, Indiana, West Virginia and Kentucky, Hillary will trail Obama in popular votes and pledged delegates as they enter the convention hall in Denver.

Any other candidate would have been shamed into dropping out long ago. But these are the Clintons and they have no shame.

So why does Hillary persist? Because she hasn't abandoned her aspiration for the White House. Not in 2008, but for 2012. Here's the perverse logic at work.

If Obama defeats McCain in November, it will take an act of treachery beyond anything even the Clintons have ever conjured from their grimoire of political demonology for Hillary to challenge him in 2012. She will be 69 in 2016, almost ready to move into one of the Beverly Nursing Homes, owned by a company she once represented as a corporate lawyer, aggressively protecting the bottom line against such extravagances as healthy meals, clean sheets and proper medical care for the elderly.

Hillary Clinton is the prisoner of an unimpeachable mathematics. So she makes the most of a remorseless situation by doing what the Clintons do best: commit political fratricide. Quite literally, in this case, by knocking off a brother.

In order to realize her vaulting ambition, Hillary must mortally wound Obama as candidate in the fall race against John McCain so that she can run against McCain in 2012.

McCain is at best a one term president. The signs of this are as clear as the scar jagging down his face. McCain, whose resemblance to Lon Chaney becomes eerier by the day, is already an old man, older than Reagan when he was first elected. He is plagued by a cancer he refuses to speak about, a war he refuses to end and an economy that is collapsing beyond the point of recovery. Add to this prospectus, the fact that McCain is prone to the most self-destructive impulses of any American politician since Aaron Burr. His political fate will be sealed before he even swears his oath.

Thus Hillary's berserker strategy against Obama. (For more on "berserkerism" see the SF novels of Fred Saberhagen.)

Down in Mark Penn's dark computer lab, the data culled from pulse polls and focus groups probing the hidden prejudices in the psyche of white America are being packed like shrapnel into political landmines set for Obama: he's unpatriotic, he's un-Christian, he's a Palestinian symp and, yes, he's black. That's three strikes and one head shot.

http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair03242008.html

He goes more into the details of the alleged plan later in the article. Very good read to say the least.

It's a heck of a great plan, and I hope she doesn't pull it off.


That's a really good piece :nice:

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff304/NorEaster_photo/ObamaHillaryFloat.jpg

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff304/NorEaster_photo/ObamaHillaryFloat.jpg


Perfect! I love their expressions! Especially Hillary's spiked eyelashes.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/11/campaign.wrap/index.html

(CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has tied Sen. Hillary Clinton in the race for superdelegates, according to CNN's latest count.

Sen. Barack Obama has received a flurry of endorsements in the past few days.

1 of 2 Obama picked up an endorsement from California superdelegate Crystal Strait, a Young Democrats of America board member and a former California Young Democrats president.

"It's probably the hardest decision I've made in my life," Strait told CNN.

"I respect both candidates so much. But listening to how young people voted and caucused around the country, I know this was the right decision."

Superdelegates are party leaders and officials who vote for the candidate of their choice at the Democratic convention in August.

At the beginning of the year, Clinton had led the superdelegate race by more than 100.

The focus of the Democratic race has largely turned to the superdelegates because they outnumber the remaining pledged delegates that are up for grabs.

Strait became the 273rd superdelegate in Obama's column, by CNN's count. Clinton had 273 Sunday as well -- technically 273.5 because of some Democrats Abroad superdelegates who are given half a vote each.

"Barack Obama has shown a real commitment to young voters in his campaign, and in response, young people have overwhelmingly voted and caucused for Obama," Strait said in a written statement.

She's like one of those bad stage acts that just won't quit, where the guy with the big hook has to drag her offstage as we used to see in cartoons..:D