According to a poll by Rasmussen 62% of Democrats think both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama should stay in the presidential race.

It also shows that 22% of Democarts think Obama should drop out and 22% of Democrats think Clinton should drop out.

It also shows that close to 30% of Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama and that close to 20% of Obama supporters will not vote for Clinton.

Which means[IMHO]:Al Gore.

Poll data at www.rasmussenreports.com

There is zero chance the Democratic nominee will be Al Gore.

There is zero chance the Democratic nominee will be Al Gore.

But if the party is badly split and there needs to be a Democrat who everyone can easily get behind,who else could it be?

Especially with all the good will Gore has gotten[Oscar for An Inconvenient Truth,Nobel Peace Prize],plus he did have the election stolen from him,most people think payback would be nice.

There is zero chance the Democratic nominee will be Al Gore.

Zero? Meh. You obviously haven't taken the possibility of alien abduction into account.

True. Maybe Kucinich's friends will come back for Hillary and Barack.

You can't see the possibillity of a Democratic Party so badly divided that either current canidate would hurt the party?

Yes, I can, because the Clintons are determined to continue their scorched earth tactics even though Hillary is done. But that doesn't mean that the party will nominate Al Gore or anyone else who didn't run.

But if the party is badly split and there needs to be a Democrat who everyone can easily get behind,who else could it be?

Especially with all the good will Gore has gotten[Oscar for An Inconvenient Truth,Nobel Peace Prize],plus he did have the election stolen from him,most people think payback would be nice.

Why didn't he run this time? I don't recall ever reading why not, but then I don't regularly read party gossip rags every week, and most likely missed his stated reasons.

because the Clintons are determined to continue their scorched earth tactics

What 'tactics' are those? Nobody seems to see these 'scorched earth' tactics Da Evul Clintons are running. The sane people only see Obama getting hanged by his own actions and his own completely voluntary associations, not anything to do with 'Da Clintons Dirty Tricks!' crap.

Is there a YouTube out there showiing Hillary whispering in Obama's ear saying 'Hey, you really should go hang out with that Reverend Wright guy! It'll be great for your future career!!!' or something? ...

#1: "Hillary and John McCain" have passed the threshold for commander-in-chief. Obama? Ask him.

It also shows that close to 30% of Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama and that close to 20% of Obama supporters will not vote for Clinton.

That's hard to believe, unless Clinton has supporters who would never vote for any black candidate. If that's the case among even Democrats, Obama would be toast in the general election.

That's hard to believe, unless Clinton has supporters who would never vote for any black candidate. If that's the case among even Democrats, Obama would be toast in the general election.

They're in the middle of a tough primary battle. Things will settle down over the next 6 months when the feelings are less raw. The question will be by just how much.

Since Clinton can't win, why is she vowing to fight on? Is she just working directly for McCain now?

Unless and until another Democrat gets the minimum necessary delegates to secure the nomination, Clinton can win.

Yes, I can, because the Clintons are determined to continue their scorched earth tactics even though Hillary is done.


Spin.:nonono:

Hillary doesn't have a mentor on videotape saying "God damn Amercia",yet you blame her for it.

And her husband isn't a canidate,to bring him up is sexism.


But that doesn't mean that the party will nominate Al Gore or anyone else who didn't run.


It doesn't mean they won't.

Why didn't he run this time? I don't recall ever reading why not, but then I don't regularly read party gossip rags every week, and most likely missed his stated reasons.

He's never really said.

He might say so on 60 Minutes tonight,but Al Gore is going to play a significant role in deciding this even if he isn't the nominee [and never say he absolutely won't be].


What 'tactics' are those? Nobody seems to see these 'scorched earth' tactics Da Evul Clintons are running. The sane people only see Obama getting hanged by his own actions and his own completely voluntary associations, not anything to do with 'Da Clintons Dirty Tricks!' crap.

Is there a YouTube out there showiing Hillary whispering in Obama's ear saying 'Hey, you really should go hang out with that Reverend Wright guy! It'll be great for your future career!!!' or something? ...

You are 100% correct.
#1: "Hillary and John McCain" have passed the threshold for commander-in-chief. Obama? Ask him.

Is that all?:shrug:

If you or your canidate gets hurt fellings by something minor like that then he does not belong in politics.

I mean has America become that pussified?

That's hard to believe, unless Clinton has supporters who would never vote for any black candidate. If that's the case among even Democrats, Obama would be toast in the general election.
It's what the poll says.

And accoring to a recent Newsweek article what we've seen at DA between Clinton and Obama supporters is happening with Democrats nationwide.

Since Clinton can't win, why is she vowing to fight on? Is she just working directly for McCain now?

What delusional people say she can't win?

I only see Obama partisans wanting her to drop because they want Obama to get yet another free pass.:shrug:

You hate Joe Lieberman,yet Obama supported him while Hillary supported Ned Lamont.

If the shoe was on the other foot you'de be critical of Hillary for supporting Lieberman,why does Obama get a free pass fro actually doing that ?





Unless and until another Democrat gets the minimum necessary delegates to secure the nomination, Clinton can win.


100% correct.

In fact ,going back to something that Malcolm and I got into:

The Newsweek article of division betwen Obama supporters and Hillary supporters remined me of something I said about 1968.

There wasn't much difference between Eugene Mc Carthy and Bobby Kennedy,but there was a big difference between the liberal Democrats who supported them.

The people who supported McCarthy were mostly college kids from priviledged backgrounds ,just like the people who mostly support Obama are.

The people who supported Bobby Kennedy were mostly Latinos and old school liberals from blue collar ,working class backgrounds,just like the people who mostly support Hillary are [and it should be noted that while Ted and Caroline Kennedy are supporting Obama ,most of Bobby Kennedy's children are supporting Hillary].

The only difference was Bobby Kennedy got the African-American vote that Obama gets in 2008.

The Kennedy and Mc Carthy supporters were just as antagonistic towrds each other as the Clinton Obama supporters are.

So this has happend before.

I didn't have the opportunity to vote in the primaries in '68, but voted for Humphrey in November.

I didn't have the opportunity to vote in the primaries in '68, but voted for Humphrey in November.


I was 12 then and was pro Bobby Kennedy [who I still think is one of the five greatest Americans who ever lived].

My dad was as pro-Humphrey as you can get and my dad was a blue collar Democrat and a conservative hawk[as most people his age were].

SOME THOUGHTS -

You supporters of whichever candidate seem to be obsessed about some things that in the end don't really matter. Is beating the Republicans the only thing that counts?


What about character, leadership, management?

What is the connection between personal character and management?

How important is the moral standards of a leader?

Does being charismatic, socially skilled, attractive make a good administrator?

When you vote for the more charismatic aren't you getting exactly what you asked for? Shouldn't demonstrated results and management skills fit in somewhere?

When the two candidates have relatively the same stance on issues ( of course there is variation) character, management and leadership has to come into play.

Obama lied, Hillary 'mispoke' (another word for lied)- Oh but wait- they are just 'normal' politicians. With poor judgement to boot.

Hillary doesn't have a mentor on videotape saying "God damn Amercia",yet you blame her for it.

SHOW ME WHERE THE **** I DID THAT, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT. GET SOME ****ING READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS.

LOL ... now the Ospama losers are resorting to getting every thread they're losing their asses in locked ....

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Since Clinton can't win, why is she vowing to fight on? Is she just working directly for McCain now?

Because she can win. In politics, you can't count on anything lasting more than a few weeks, at best. Just a few months ago, she was all but crowned queen and Rudy was unbeatable. All it would take is a scandal, and skittish delegates would switch.

The people who supported McCarthy were mostly college kids from priviledged backgrounds ,just like the people who mostly support Obama are.


There sure are a lot of college kids from priviledged [sic] backgrounds!

This post contains some interesting ambiguities:

The first clause says that McCarthy's supporters were "mostly college kids from priviledged [sic] backgrounds" which of course is untrue.

The second clause says that college kids from priviledged [sic] backgrounds "mostly support Obama," which may be true.

Other highlights from the post:

This is surely significant:

it should be noted that while Ted and Caroline Kennedy are supporting Obama ,most of Bobby Kennedy's children are supporting Hillary

What are people who generally try to imitate Kennedy kids to do in this circumstance?

Also, it's sexism -- if not outright misogyny -- to being up Bill Clinton:

And her husband isn't a canidate,to bring him up is sexism.

Stop it with the sexism already!

Regarding the pussification of American, consider this:

If you or your canidate gets hurt fellings by something minor like that then he does not belong in politics.

Take your hurt fellings and your canidate and stick 'em up your ass!

Is beating the Republicans the only thing that counts?



Yes.


There sure are a lot of college kids from priviledged [sic] backgrounds!

This post contains some interesting ambiguities:

The first clause says that McCarthy's supporters were "mostly college kids from priviledged [sic] backgrounds" which of course is untrue.

The second clause says that college kids from priviledged [sic] backgrounds "mostly support Obama," which may be true.


FASCIST TYPO POLICE ALERT!




Stop it with the sexism already!


I'm not being sexist.:shrug:





Take your hurt fellings and your canidate and stick 'em up your ass!


1.What hurt feelings?:shrug:

2.A personal attack [yet another violation of the TOS by you and a pathetic one at that ].:nonono:

2.A personal attack [yet another violation of the TOS by you and a pathetic one at that ].

Is there ANY response to one of your typically incoherent posts other than "100% agreement" that you don't consider a "violation of the TOS" and an attack on you?

Try not to be such a sissy for God's sake.