Since these are the likely prez candidates for 2008, lets see which way the winds are blowing on DA.

Don't count Hillary out yet.

Does anyone even visit the polling booth? I think this thread has effectively been sentenced to death.

there's a ton of people here that won't vote for either. Why not give US a choice?

I originally kind of liked Obama but the more I look at his stuff I dislike them both. I wanted Ron Paul to win. :shakefist

PS: The only reason I even looked at the polls was because I saw something about this in the forum suggestions area.

Republican here who hates McCain.

I originally kind of liked Obama but the more I look at his stuff I dislike them both.Ditto. I can't in good conscience vote for either man.

Gonna throw my vote away on some third party tard yet again this election cycle. Whoo!

12 pinkos? and BETTY?? im surprised at you..

Obama 12 100.00%
McCain 0 0%


LOLLERSKATES.

So if McCain wins we can be sure there was some funny business????:eek7:

12 pinkos? and BETTY?? im surprised at you..
:shrug:

So if McCain wins we can be sure there was some funny business????:eek7:
I'd say so.:eek3:

I'd say so.:eek3:

What? No. WTF?

Que?

Id rather eat a bullet then vote for Barack or McCain.

Que?

You're saying a McCain win would likely mean funny business happened, because it would go against a non-scientific internet poll of young, sexless nerds on a random web site?

PS

Obama 17 100.00%
McCain 0 0%

LOLLERSKATES!

You're saying a McCain win would likely mean funny business happened, because it would go against a non-scientific internet poll of young, sexless nerds on a random web site?

Normally no, but...
Obama 17 100.00%
McCain 0 0%

heh, like we didn't know 'which way the winds blow' here on DA... and what, no nader?

nothing is set in stone, but let's do something about that bogus zero, shall we..?

Pity vote?

not really. not a huge fan of any of the above...

I just can't wait till the primaries are over.
I'm figuring a poll, with the Rep, Dem, Green, and Libertarian candidates as soon as they get their nominees, then do one more poll, open the week before the election.
We'll see how DA compares to the masses.

My guess, DA is currently far more liberal than the mainstream.

hehe I'd say, just a bit...

I heard McCain may not be eligible to be president because he wasn't born in the US. Is this true?

Not true. He wasn't technically born on US soil, but on a US Naval Air Station which still makes him a natural born citizen.

ok, thanks.

wow. good ol' DA...
nice and representative of the real world, eh?

Well if I have to pick between "liver lips" and "old, ugly, and likely to die in office", I suppose I can get used to looking at Barak's face for four years. After all, I've tolerated the chimp's ugly mug this long.....

Does anyone even visit the polling booth? I think this thread has effectively been sentenced to death.

No, many counties in Washington State have a mail-in ballot only.

Wait, nevermind, you said "polling" not voting....read that too fast....

I just can't wait till the primaries are over.
I'm figuring a poll, with the Rep, Dem, Green, and Libertarian candidates as soon as they get their nominees, then do one more poll, open the week before the election.
We'll see how DA compares to the masses.

My guess, DA is currently far more liberal than the mainstream.

You're right, I think. DA is more liberal than mainstream America. I think part of it is because DA has international members, and that many of the American members on DA come here partly because they want the company of people from other parts of the world, and their political output. Personally, I don't blame them, BTW :)

As far as the world is concerned, I'd say the result of this poll might be representative of the mainstream. Of course the world doesn't have say in American politics... but the people of the planet whose lives are so directly influenced by American policies (sometimes BRUTALLY so) count for something in my opinion :)

M.

wow. good ol' DA...
nice and representative of the real world, eh?

Actually, you are precisely right. This is more representative of the real WORLD, as opposed to just the USA :)

M.

You're right, I think. DA is more liberal than mainstream America. I think part of it is because DA has international members, and that many of the American members on DA come here partly because they want the company of people from other parts of the world, and their political output. Personally, I don't blame them, BTW :)

As far as the world is concerned, I'd say the result of this poll might be representative of the mainstream. Of course the world doesn't have say in American politics... but the people of the planet whose lives are so directly influenced by American policies (sometimes BRUTALLY so) count for something in my opinion :)

M.

I agree with you. At least in my case this is so. It's been enlightening.

Actually, you are precisely right. This is more representative of the real WORLD, as opposed to just the USA :)

M.

fair enough. but as you said, their opinions and wants mean less than very little in terms of actually affecting the process...

fair enough. but as you said, their opinions and wants mean less than very little in terms of actually affecting the process...

This is true.
The question was 'Who's your boy', making this a poll open to the world. As such I am not surprised that it is somewhat representative of the world's opinions on the matter.
I'm thankful the world gets to express its preference in some forum, even if it is just on a BB like this one.

Its an awkward and dangerous situation to have a nation posture and vy for, and more often than not adopt de facto the role of world leader, when the world has no say in its politics. Bush was the perfect illustration of this danger: tens of thousands of innocent people died because we elected that man and the world is painfully aware that the ability to lucidly elect a good leader cannot be consistently counted upon when it comes to the American people.

I could imagine, in some alternate dimension, that the people of this great nation might actually pay attention to the opinions of the rest of the world after electing a bumbling moron with murderous intentions for their president TWICE in a row. Unfortunately, the humility that there is something to learn from other cultures is not something we were raised with.
Just keep in mind, not only the rest of the world suffers from our electoral exercises in elevating our best entertainers to the presidency - we do too. We've now started to feel the real pinch of our decades of civic irresponsability, and we may be just one more mistake away from irrevocably sending the nation into accelerated decline.

We get what we deserve.

M.

well, considering that US citizens gets no vote in the electoral (or other) processes of other countries, and (more importantly) the people of this country can't even accept the responsibility of whom they elect[ed] (instead they prefer to blame it on the 'other guy'), I accept the current situation for what it is...

and the world had a say... but no one said a thing. so the US stepped up and took the lead, while the rest of the world not only allowed it, they followed. good or bad, the precedent was set long ago...

I voted before I read the question. I'd just like to clarify that McCain is NOT my boy, and I will not be voting for him. Ever. I do think he's going to be the next POTUS though.

I just can't believe McCain is against MMA. If you're going to take away things like UFC and other sports like wrestling, then you might as well take away baseball and football. There are just as many MMA fans as there are the others. Not to mention MMA is worldwide. Almost every country has some famous MMA fighter. McCain is stupid.

Oh yea, and if you think about it Hillary is out of question because yes she might win the election, but I call impeachment within the first month. Think about how the first world leaders meeting would go. All of them are men, and how many countries out there don't let women be equal to men. Do you people honestly think that they are going to let her walk in there and talk to them? My guess is that they wouldn't even speak to her, and how is that going to affect the U.S.'s input on the world?

I don't think so... there are other women world leaders... and clearly the US is too significant to ignore.

well, considering that US citizens gets no vote in the electoral (or other) processes of other countries, and (more importantly) the people of this country can't even accept the responsibility of whom they elect[ed] (instead they prefer to blame it on the 'other guy'), I accept the current situation for what it is...


I understand and agree.


and the world had a say... but no one said a thing. so the US stepped up and took the lead, while the rest of the world not only allowed it, they followed. good or bad, the precedent was set long ago...

I'm not sure what you're alluding to here...

M.

Oh yea, and if you think about it Hillary is out of question because yes she might win the election, but I call impeachment within the first month. Think about how the first world leaders meeting would go. All of them are men, and how many countries out there don't let women be equal to men. Do you people honestly think that they are going to let her walk in there and talk to them? My guess is that they wouldn't even speak to her, and how is that going to affect the U.S.'s input on the world?

I disagree.
This might be a problem in far more specific and isolated cases than you seem to think.

I don't want Hillary as president of the USA, but her gender would only hurt us in hard ball negotiations over matters of conflict, particularly because Muslim militant factions will never allow themselves to be seen as conceding ground to a woman.
Interestingly enough, Obama's skin color is a benefit in equal measure to Hillary's disadvantage here.

But the overall effect of this difference is smaller than you seem to be portraying it, particularly because Hillary does not intend to converse with militant Muslims (perhaps precisely because she wishes to not expose her disadvantage), whereas Obama has volunteered that he is more open to communication with our nation's enemies.

I, of course, think Obama's approach is more practical and beneficial.

M.

Never cared about politics in my life. Don't vote out of principal. It was just a gathering of bullshit*ers seeing who did it best. I always said when I see someone worth voting for I'll vote.
Took 51 years, but finally saw a member of the cast, not a puppet-master. Barack Obama is what a team & it's leader should be about!!!

Now I'm learning how the political system works. I'm watching CNN & MSNBC to see how the day went. I'm excited about the presidential race!
And I'm Canadian. And I don't even understand my own political system.
The whole world is affected by what the USA does.
I can't vote, but I'd sure like to see Obama looking after us.:nice:

Never cared about politics in my life. Don't vote out of principal. It was just a gathering of bullshit*ers seeing who did it best. I always said when I see someone worth voting for I'll vote.
Took 51 years, but finally saw a member of the cast, not a puppet-master. Barack Obama is what a team & it's leader should be about!!!

Now I'm learning how the political system works. I'm watching CNN & MSNBC to see how the day went. I'm excited about the presidential race!
And I'm Canadian. And I don't even understand my own political system.
The whole world is affected by what the USA does.
I can't vote, but I'd sure like to see Obama looking after us.:nice:

You're not alone. Obama's straight forward style, integrity, and will to take on the taboo problems we've been sweeping under the carpet for decades have given interest to a horde of political cynics.

M.

I don't like McCain, but I hate Obama with a passion.

never mind

I voted agains obama, he's too liberal, he'll tax the shit out of meh and drive this country farther down the shitter faster then mccain will IMO. both are asshats that will favor bigger government IMO, mccain at least will not raise taxes on meh IMO.

Unless you're making six figures or more, I doubt you'll be seeing any increase in your taxes under Obama.

Unless you're making six figures or more, I doubt you'll be seeing any increase in your taxes under Obama.

True. And for that reason, I guess I'll stick to my 40ishK

Am I the only one that finds it funny when I hear people that voted for Bush twice talk about how they are afraid someone like Obama will hurt the country and/or cost them money?

Have any of these people looked into how many thousands the Iraq war will cost every American?

Andif we're going to have to pay for something, wouldn't it be better to spend our taxes on improving this country rather than spending it on destroying others and killing off our military?

Am I the only one that finds it funny when I hear people that voted for Bush twice talk about how they are afraid someone like Obama will hurt the country and/or cost them money?

I think there is something wrong with these people. I'm not kidding. I don't know how a human being can think McCain is better for their country than Obama and still have the cognitive abilities to walk upright and open a door, much less complete the series of tasks required to vote.

It must be a savant thing.

Am I the only one that finds it funny when I hear people that voted for Bush twice talk about how they are afraid someone like Obama will hurt the country and/or cost them money?

Have any of these people looked into how many thousands the Iraq war will cost every American?

But DUH, that's just their grandkids paying fo dat shit!!!

You left out neither one . Both of them are the same imo. Two pod people in a pot !

Only difference is at least McCain was once a hero, Hussain is unknown except for his associates of anti-American radicals including but not limited to his church and wife who insulted this nation with her race hustling out bursts. She is worse than kerry wife . But it doesn't matter anyway .

You're not alone. Obama's straight forward style, integrity, and will to take on the taboo problems we've been sweeping under the carpet for decades have given interest to a horde of political cynics.

M.

yea right, he will sweep this whole nation under the rug ,imo. :eek:

Both of them are the same imo. Two pod people in a pot !

Please pass some of yo crack, kthanks!!

Please pass some of yo crack, kthanks!!


Your know all about them 'cracks' .I have no interest in them.

I think we should do the nice thing and offer suicide assistance to all those who are voting for McCain.

Why are so many people suicidal these days? Has 8 years of Bushism been that bad?:eek7:

i couldn't vote for someone who choses a VP that supports aerial hunting of wolves and bears :not::|

i couldn't vote for someone who choses a VP that supports aerial hunting of wolves and bears :not::|

I didn't even know that of Palin.
Another stroke against her. I'm not entirely sure why I am counting them anymore.

M

I didn't even know that of Palin.
Another stroke against her. I'm not entirely sure why I am counting them anymore.

M

Just to see how high you can count without losing track?

OBAMA! Woo!