star trek
hmph
convice me why this series is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo freaking great

thank you for this post, thank you thank you thank you

Specify which series and I'll blow you away. Or, if it's all Star Trek, say so, and I'll use up the 20,000 character space real quick explaining why.

I liked it because was about many issues that affect the human race, racism, mankinds cruelty to itself, the environment, and above all the struggle between good and evil. In the series these space travelers go about the universe and find alien species and basically we learn that in the end good does triumph.

I did find that much of the series did not make sense. Why, for example, did all species of beings throughout the Universe look like us? Why did everyone speak english. When they land on other planets they were able to breath the air and were not infected by bizzare illnesses? In fact they never needed space suits. Well it was entertaining at least.

The old series was especially great. I love William Shatner.

Star Trek scares me...

dude....Red and i will blow you out of the water

Originally posted by Scott
dude....Red and i will blow you out of the water


Scott... I think you forgot someone... :p

Star Trek is lame.

Stargate SG-1: Now thats the shiat!

-AE (yeah yeah)

Originally posted by Aesir
Star Trek is lame.

Stargate SG-1: Now thats the shiat!

-AE (yeah yeah)


Oh yeah, using an ancient temporal jumpgate to travel from planet to planet. That's WAY more believable...:bs:

Originally posted by Brian



Oh yeah, using an ancient temporal jumpgate to travel from planet to planet. That's WAY more believable...:bs:

I didn't say either of them were believable/non-believable. I just stated it was a better show.

Come on guys,

its called "discussanything" lets talk about this okayeeee
Redfield, Brian, Scott. Tell me why it rocks. I want to know what makes it so popular. Why is there a kind of subculture of "trekkies" what makes people get so obsessed whth it? Red you know where i stand on Star Trek, anybody else, tell me why is Star Trek (all series) so great?

waiting

By no means was I trying to come off as condescending.

Aesir - The premise of Star Gate closely mirrors an episode of 1st season TNG, (Conspiracy) where parasites take over members of Starfleet, much like the bugs do in Star Gate. I just feel that the writing in the series (maybe not TOS) was better than that of SG-1.

NoDoz - Glad to hear your wife is home - As for the Star Trek sub-culture, man there are some wierd people out there. Maybe people need to grab onto something to give them hope for the survival of mankind and ST gave them that hope. Maybe it is the fact that ST deals with future version of today's VERY real issues. Or, maybe there are just TONS of SCI-FI buffs out there who like awsome explosions and space fights with a little bit of common sense thrown in. Who knows? Not I. For me it was a conglomeration of everything mentioned above. TNG, DS-9 and Voyager had some of the best casting, acting and writing of ANY TV series I have seen (with the exception of Season 1 TNG - which was weak until the last few eps).

And while not totally possible today, ST is the ONLY SCI-FI series/movie based on science. Every TV script and movie script was reviewed by scientists as high up as NASA to make sure that the science in ST was, in theory, possible.

There is also a whole other world outside of TV in the ST book collections. The series of books Shatner wrote in the aftermath of ST: Generations (The Return, Avenger, Spectre) was absolutley astounding. I couldn't put them down. There was also a cross-over series done called Invasion which was great. So, it's not just TV, there are many other avenues in which people can enter the ST world.

But, basically, what it boils down to is this: If you don't like it, you don't like it. Nothing mysef, Scott or Red can say will change your mind. I can't tell you what is so great about the ST world, there would be arguments between the three of us fans as to what is best. You need to find out what there is for the ST world to offer you.

From a strictly philosphophic point of view it was a great series. From a scientific point of view it was weak (but want superman???). The point is....well its the story that matters and the science....who cares.

I grew up on watching Jean Luke Picard.


And I'm not a Trekkie. It's not a passion of mine.

Star Wars is the whole focal point of my sci-fi adorations.

Originally posted by Brian
By no means was I trying to come off as condescending.

Aesir - The premise of Star Gate closely mirrors an episode of 1st season TNG, (Conspiracy) where parasites take over members of Starfleet, much like the bugs do in Star Gate. I just feel that the writing in the series (maybe not TOS) was better than that of SG-1.


Depends what your looking for I suppose.
Star Trek to me is way to serious.
I like Stargate's Cast alot better.
Richard Dean Anderson with his sly little comments, and quips.
I also don't like the fact that most all of StarTrek is on the ship.. I like a change of atmosphere. Stargate visits different looking planets, different cultures, and there is alot of mythology in it. (I know star trek also visits different cultures.)
I just get bored with StarTrek before the episodes over.
Plus them damn Klingons are ugly mothers.

-AE ( :D )

Originally posted by Aesir


Star Trek to me is way to serious.

-AE ( :D )


To an extent, yes. But, there were many erps with lots of humor in them. TNG ep 'A Fist Full of Datas' comes to mind immediatly...

I think that Star Trek has offered a lot to the world. Not only just to the select fans of the science fiction genre.

Star Trek (as a whole) has offered entertainment, eye-candy, and explored a lot of thought-provoking storylines. For example, Star Trek (Original Series) actually had a lot of controversial themes that couldn't have been examined had they not been placed in the "benign" medium of science fiction.

Star Trek as a whole has inspired ideas that have become common place technological tools, today.

It has allowed children and adults to turn away from the improbable and share the dreams of the possible.

Just to quote, the late, Gene Roddenberry:
It speaks to some basic human needs, that there is a tomorrow - it's not all going to be over in a big flash and a bomb, that the human race is improving, that we have things to be proud of as humans. No, ancient astronauts did not build the pyramids - human beings built them because they're clever and they work hard. And 'Star Trek' is about those kinds of things.

I don't really like "Enterprise".

I don't understand why that guy 'Tripp' (the engineer) goes on all of the away missions and seems to usurp Malcom's (LT Reed's) authority/duties.

I'm happy that they made Yoshi (you know, the asian chick) less annoying and whiny.

I seem to recall the first Captain in starfleet being called 'archer' but the first ship was called something different and was suppossed to look like the USS Pateur from TNG "...all good things". (You know, with a 'sphere' instead of a saucer section.

I also thought their conflict with the Klingons was to come much later, and in space over some misunderstanding... but I guess this temporal cold war BS gives them creative license to f**k the timeline up.

I really dig the whole "temporal anolmaly" thing. the whole idea of what you can do or undo just by the "simple" act of time travel. Star Trek has indeed offered alot in terms of visulalising the "real" future. Red and I have had conversations about various Star Trek gadgets which have infiltrated their way into our lives.
For example the cell phone
Come on who hasnt flipped his phone open and imitated Captian Kirk. *** beeping noise*** Flips phone open "Kirk to Enterprise."
yeah baby
others had come to mind but now escape me.

This is the kinda "cool" stuff that i want to hear about

Originally posted by Lowtide
I don't really like "Enterprise".

I don't understand why that guy 'Tripp' (the engineer) goes on all of the away missions and seems to usurp Malcom's (LT Reed's) authority/duties.

I'm happy that they made Yoshi (you know, the asian chick) less annoying and whiny.

I seem to recall the first Captain in starfleet being called 'archer' but the first ship was called something different and was suppossed to look like the USS Pateur from TNG "...all good things". (You know, with a 'sphere' instead of a saucer section.

I also thought their conflict with the Klingons was to come much later, and in space over some misunderstanding... but I guess this temporal cold war BS gives them creative license to f**k the timeline up.


Tripp goes on away missions because he is second in command...he has higher command than Malcom...

but malcom ususally comes along being secuirty officer

ok so Im a geek...i admit it now. I was born and raised on Star Trek, Star Wars, and a buncha other sci-fi stuff. It was great candy for the imagination to wonder about the possibilities that could lay in the future. Sooner or later space travel is going to become a necessity for the human race to survive (and my astronomy teacher thinks i didnt learn anything :D) this is how it could be. They showed some very real things. Race wasnt an issue, nither was gender...it mostly came down to species. but the thing I love the most about the whole thing is the fact that money wasnt used (thank you ST TNG movie: First Contact)
Jean Luc Pecard was the best captain....and im sorry but Data rocks...but that is my own personal opinion :D

I'm sorry..but i'm gonna desent..


Kathryan Janeway was the best captian...


her confidence, and her presence was unmatched...

she was a bad ass in MUCH more episodes than jean luc...


jean luc was awesome....but janeway edges him out

Never could get into Star Trek..it kinda creeped me out. My parents use to always watch it.

Originally posted by Scott
I'm sorry..but i'm gonna desent..


Kathryan Janeway was the best captian...


her confidence, and her presence was unmatched...

she was a bad ass in MUCH more episodes than jean luc...


jean luc was awesome....but janeway edges him out

Agreed,but alot of people still argue that if she, a woman, could really stand up the half of the isht that kirk, jean luc, and others went through.(ps this is not i reapeat NOT A SEXIST REPLY)

Originally posted by DotCom
I grew up on watching Jean Luke Picard.


And I'm not a Trekkie. It's not a passion of mine.

Star Wars is the whole focal point of my sci-fi adorations. That's Jean Luc Picard.....Captain to you, padawan...LOL

Ok, the original ST was not necessarily my favorite, but it DID address socially controversial issues in a way that made us examine them before forming an opinion. For Example: First television interacial kiss Kirk/Uhura.

STNG is actually my fav, since by far on the whole, it's done in the most military fashion. (excluding Troi and Guinan... what's up with that PC whiny feel good crap? LOL) The chain of command is rigid and actually handled the way it is IRL. Less socially conscious issues, but improved SFX.

ST Voyager runs a close second for me, but on a more basic level... 7 of 9, and Capt. Janeway.... Mmmmm... LOL Seriously, I wonder how ANY crew would react when faced with the possibility of never getting home... Replicators can only make so much... you still have to have raw materials to make parts/food/whatever from. When they stop and take on supplies, I've often wondered what they use for currency/bartering.

DS-9 does nothing for me... Although you WOULD have to have staging/refit/embassy/trade type stations, for a TV show, it digs too deep into the mundane. Besides, who would believe there is a daily crisis in a "friendly" system? Surrounded by planetary defenses in the system... why feel isolated? That's why I think they came up with the ship.... but IT sucks because they're limited to returning to DS-9 each episode.